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All Forum Posts by: Matt McElravy

Matt McElravy has started 5 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Advice for creative financing for down payment of Owner Carry

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Marco Bario:

@Matt McElravy -

Interesting one.

I understand not wanting partners in the business but perhaps the property? 

Maybe split the property and the business - an investor buys all or a portion of the property and at closing creates a note or sells an option to you. 

You mention gross revenues for the business. What would you say its valuation is without the real estate?

Where I'm going with this... perhaps your friend carries back a note for the business and an investor helps to acquire the property. 


 Great suggestions. Thank you!

Post: Advice for creative financing for down payment of Owner Carry

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Matt Devincenzo:

Less creative and actually more of a standard loan option...

SBA financing for an existing business that includes RE is as little as 10% down. So you may want to talk to a local bank and see if they can support a small balance SBA to buy the business and RE for the low down.

There may be other reasons this is or isn't a good idea, but it sounds like you have the 10% down if you can make the business loan option work.

Thank you Matt.  I've kicked that around a bit and even reached out to our local Small Business Development Center.  Haven't heard back yet so maybe I'll just start talking to local lenders.

Post: Advice for creative financing for down payment of Owner Carry

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Steve Vaughan:

Crazy IMO to want that much down.  I did the same last month. Sold $1.2M but only let buyer put $250k down after doing the math on the tax hit.

If they insist on $400k down, may be work $50k of annual profit into the payments with less up front.  Then thank them for their service. Somebody gotta keep the govt running. 


Thanks Steve.  I didn't think about taxes and I bet they haven't either.  I'll bring that up and suggest they talk to their accountant about how much they'd pay.  They have lived in the house for 15 years so would the $400K fall under the "No capital gains tax on primary residence if lived in for 2 out of last 5 years"?

Post: Advice for creative financing for down payment of Owner Carry

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3

A friend of ours is moving to Hawaii and wants to sell us their 56 acre property that includes a business that generates $220K annual gross revenue (about $100K Net).  They are asking for 1 million dollars.  They will Owner Finance $600K and want $400K down.  We'd like to make this work but don't have $400k.  Looking for some creative ways to come up with the down payment.  We can come up with $100k by pulling out of another property we own.  We'd prefer not to take on partners.

Would it be possible to get a loan to buy the business to use as the down payment?  If we did, would that generate a tax consequence for the seller?  

Thanks in advance,

Matt

Post: Oregon Rent Control Question

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3

I have a duplex under contract that will cash flow in paper if rents are at or near market rate. After the seller accepted my offer, I found out rents just a bit higher than half of the market rate. I’d be losing $300/month. With the new laws, I can raise rates about 10% a year. I can’t evict the tenants without cause. The units are in great shape so I can’t use rehab card. I’m ok walking away from the deal but I’m wondering if there is a creative solution to the problem. Can I do cash for keys or something similar?

Post: First Lien HELOC Strategy

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Nick Moriwaki:
Originally posted by @Matt McElravy:

Is there a program / bank that will originate a loan as a First Lien HELOC upon purchase of a primary residence or does it have to be a refi? I have a property under contract that will be my primary residence and I'd like to use this method ASAP. I have 20% down payment available. Using cash flow to pay down the principle but still having access to the funds to invest in other properties/investments seems like the holy grail to me.

Not to my knowledge, although you would think it wouldn’t matter to the bank. One specific branch was doing it in Hawaii for a short period of time, but then they stopped.

One way to get around this is to find some way to come up with enough money to finalize the sale through cash (e.g. - borrow money) and then just refi that money out via the HELOC to repay that debt. One extra hoop to jump through but it puts you in the same place. You just want to be sure you qualify for the HELOC and what the terms will be prior to doing so. Hope that helps.

Thanks Nick! Do most banks want a "seasoning period" before they'll do a HELOC?

Post: First Lien HELOC Strategy

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3

Is there a program / bank that will originate a loan as a First Lien HELOC upon purchase of a primary residence or does it have to be a refi? I have a property under contract that will be my primary residence and I'd like to use this method ASAP. I have 20% down payment available. Using cash flow to pay down the principle but still having access to the funds to invest in other properties/investments seems like the holy grail to me.

Post: Investing in Montgomery, AL

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Wesley Whitehead:
Originally posted by @Peter Philando:
Originally posted by @Wesley Whitehead:

I actually just purchased an SFR using AHF. Worked with Jennifer and Caroline. They are both great.

Which house did you buy? I am curious to see if its one that I have on my list. I am a recent investor in the Montgomery area too. Best wishes.

Peter,

The address is 3723 Narrow Lane Rd.  Jennifer Bozeman from Alabama Home Finders manages the property and she has been great.  She has turned down several unqualified applicants that I wouldn't have thought the disqualify which is great learning lesson into what question one should be asking about prospective tenants.  Peter, please PM sometime as I will be moving to your neck of the woods this summer.  Would love to hear your experiences in Montgomery as well as potential places to live in SoFlo.

Hi Wesley, just curious how your Montgomery rental is working out. I’m looking to buy there as well. We’re you able to get a good renter in there quickly?

Post: Ceiling height requirements to rent out a basement apartment in S

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3

Thanks @Grady L. I'm going to talk to the city planner tomorrow.

Post: Ceiling height requirements to rent out a basement apartment in S

Matt McElravyPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Salem, OR
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 3

I'm about to put an offer on a property in Salem, Oregon that has a finished basement. It's on a multifamily lot and I'd like to rent the basement out. It has a full kitchen, bath and bedroom but the ceiling is only about 6'4" and the beams bring it down to 6' in spots. Thsquare footage is included in the home' tax assessment. However, everything I read about making a basement livable space says ceilings need to be 6'8 and now lower than 6'4 at the beams. 

Does anyone know the answer to this or direct me to the right person to ask?

Thanks

Matt