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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Ware

Matthew Ware has started 7 posts and replied 34 times.

I'm not happy where I sit and want to do better. My immediate path to improving my returns is to continue to read, listen, and learn, but I know that I must do something with these tenants as soon as possible. I keep going back and forth between raise rent to $2100 a month and let it ride for a while, or kick them out and take a full inventory of the property and renovate. There is cash from the estate to put into the property, and I do have a good friend who is a builder/contractor who might be willing to fly out with me to give me some honest opinions about the property's needs. As so many of you have pointed out, I have several paths available to me in the mid to long term. I don't have the investment experience that many of you do, so I am hesitant to dive in and start buying up investment properties just yet.  However, the more I learn,  I realize just how lucrative real estate investment can be, but I'm under no illusions that it is easy or without risk. Again, thank you for all of the opinions and sage advice. 

Thanks to all of you who took the time to respond to my questions. I am truly amazed at the generosity and kindness that so many of you have exhibited with your thoughtful replies. I'll soon try to get a picture of myself uploaded so that you can put a face to the name. 

After sleeping on this, not so well by the way, I think that I am beginning to get my head around one of the most difficult challenges that I am facing, and perhaps others face, when presented with these types of dramatic life events. The specific issues with my tenant are really symptomatic of a much larger and heavy issue. Prior to my father's passing, I had no real comprehension of his net worth. We were estranged and aside from the grief of loss, what I'm struggling with is the shifting of mindset from wage earner to investor.

Those of you who are offering the advice to sell, I think I get it.  I can borrow against the money in the houses, but the money locked up in the CA houses can be making significantly better money elsewhere, ideally without greatly increasing my exposure to risk. I can always borrow against those new, better performing assets when it comes time to expand my portfolio. From an investor's point of view, the goal is to always have your money making money and to assess risk and reward.  So my San Diego properties are like the T-Bills of real estate, and I can likely manage a significantly better return by eventually learning and developing skill in a real estate investment strategy that I can apply closer to home. My learning curve and comfort level with analyzing risk can define my next moves. There is an opportunity cost to holding on to the houses,(a rate of return that a seasoned investor would not accept), but they are cash flowing right now, so no immediate rush to sell. 

 If I hold on to the properties long term, out of sentimentality or risk aversion, I am betting on appreciation. It's hard to not overvalue this variable since the only reason I have this asset is because my Grandmother was fortunate  that her late, 3rd husband had the foresight, or dumb luck, to buy these houses back in the 60's. But I seem to recall reading somewhere that using past performance to predict future performance is not a sound investment strategy, although it's very emotionally compelling.

For the vast majority of my working life I have followed a path that trades my time for a very modest, predictable wage and decent benefits. Money was something to be budgeted and used to live on with occasional indulgences or escapes from the routine. There was always an unstated belief that I was lucky to have a job, and although the money wasn't great and there never seemed to be quite enough, I was at least making ends meet. I had no aspirations that I would ever be in a position to invest beyond a modest retirement fund,  and felt that I would most likely "work" for most of the rest of my life. 

This is a very difficult mindset to shift. It is hard to see things from this different "investor" perspective. Thanks again to all those on this forum for helping me understand some of the smaller things that led to this larger realization. I look forward to continuing to learn with all of you. Don't worry I won't do anything rash, but I may begin to venture down this road less traveled with some of you. 

Thanks Justin, 

So your opinion which seems to be shared by others here, is that I am overvaluing the property because it is in a highly desirable retail market, but in reality it has little to no investment value. The thought is that the equity, despite the prop 13 tax break, can be put to better use elsewhere. All this makes some sense to me, but I just can't shake this feeling that if I sell, I will be killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Also, I don't know enough about real estate investment to invest that money wisely or with confidence yet, and would need to stick the proceeds into an index fund until I felt educated enough to wade into the shark infested waters. Can't I have it both ways and just collect the rent and then  borrow against the equity in the houses in order to fund other more lucrative investments  when the time comes \, or is that a dumb rookie idea that is seriously ill advised? Again, I'm new to all of this and appreciate your thoughts.

Sue, thank you for your suggested reading and insight on the tenants and property management. Your points are well taken and correspond with what my gut is telling me. I chose my PM under duress. I didn't vet the company and chose them because they were attached to my probate attorney who came highly recommended. When you lose someone suddenly there is so much to do. The PM has been responsive, but not exactly helpful throughout this ordeal. She's quite the fast talker. As for prop 13, it's crazy. Both houses were purchased new in the late 60's for about 35K and are now worth 500K. They are only being taxed on a small fraction of that amount. From my understanding I will inherit this tax rate as will my children and their children indefinitely. I'm not complaining, but how is CA solvent? 

Wow,  I am overwhelmed by the plethora of responses . Thanks to all of you who have taken the time to give me your thoughts based on your hard earned experiences.  I'm curious why anyone would want to buy my property, or any property in San Diego for that matter, if they are such investment dogs? Justin, thank you for taking the time to fill in the numbers on the spread sheet. I can't begin to make sense of all of it all just yet, but I am committed to learning. 

Here in my area of Vermont, I can buy duplexes with much better rent to to price ratios, closer to the 50% or  2% rule, but there is also a high likelihood that my tenants will decide that heroin is a good life choice. I have heard many local horror stories. Also, homes sit on the market for what seems like for ever and they don't seem to appreciate much at all. 

It seems like there are two schools of thought. One is that I should sell immediately and abandon the San Diego market in order to reinvest elsewhere. Others seem to think that it is a safe investment, akin to a blue chip, and is acceptable to keep, provided I do not expect to maximize returns. As for the strategy with the current tenant, opinions seem to be mixed as to whether or not I should raise the rent partially, with no improvements, or just renovate and and attempt to get full market rent. I'm leaning towards letting them stay since I am not 100% committed to keeping the property, and telling them it's $2100 a month with no improvements, take it or leave it. Again, thanks so much to all who have responded. I look forward to continuing to learn from the Biggerpockets community.  

Jd, 

Thankyou for taking the time to share your thoughts. Your observations are well taken. I am indeed an accidental landlord. As I said, my father's death was unexpected, and perhaps my "rasing a rukus" by focusing on the underperforming rental property was my way of dealing with some of the grief by focusing on what I thought I had control over. I have a sincere interest in real estate investment and come to this forum seeking advice with humility and respect for those of you who do this professionally. I know that there is so much to learn.

To answer your question about the subletting, when I did a brief walkthough with the PM there was a  man present at the house who the tenant's son nervously said did not live there. The house was partitioned in such a way that it looked to me like the living room was being used as a seperate apartment. The new rental agreement forbids subletting. 

Thanks for your response Jon. I sort of had those numbers in mind if I were to offer a deal to the current tenants. I know it will cost money to bring the property up to par with market value, the big unknown is how much? I was anticipating new floors, paint, and update the appliances and perhaps the bathroom fixtures. It will take some time for that to pay off at a 300-400 a month rent difference.

So Greg your advice is that I should sell, loose the prop 13 tax break, take the capital gains hit, and then buy other properties in better markets with better returns? I was hoping to just use these properties as a cash cow and borrow against them if and when I find better deals in better markets. Is that naive?

The tenants are month to month. The PM inspected the property, drew up a rental agreement, secured rental insurance, and had any safety issues addressed at the property including the installation of proper smoke detectors. My big question is should I start fresh with new tenants, or enter negotiations through my property mananger about improvements and rent. 

I'm suprised at how many people immediately think I should just sell the properties. I am here at biggerpockets in order to learn about real estate investing. I want to build passive income and wealth just like the rest of you. I appreciate the variety of opinions and am new to the whole social networking thing, so please forgive me if I have stumbled into the wrong place.

 Greg, is the equity locked up and virtually dead? I was hoping to eventually leverage the equity in these houses to find other cash flow properties. Is this not possible? I pay virtually no taxes on the property so why should I sell? Is it really a terrible investment? Why does everyone want to buy it then? 

Jd, I don't know if my father was being taken advantage. I know he had a big heart and was perhaps happy not to be bothered by tennant issues, but the fact that they were paying at least 1000 dollars below value and most likely subletting has me jaded.