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All Forum Posts by: Matthew White

Matthew White has started 12 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: My First Duplex with almost 20% Cash on Cash Return!!!

Matthew White
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Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

@Cassi Justiz - Thank you!  This has been a fun and exciting venture and I look forward to doing it again.

Post: My First Duplex with almost 20% Cash on Cash Return!!!

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

@Steve Morris

Side 1 (Newly renovated) is paying $1425/month on 12 month lease
Side 2 (long term tenants on fixed income, non renovated unit) is paying $1175/month on new 12 month lease

Now with updated expenses and accounting for Vacancy, CapEx, and Repairs and Maintenance and after PITI (loan paydown and insurace and property taxes) I cash flow $1009.06/month.

This results in a revised cash on cash return of approximately 24%.

Post: My First Duplex with almost 20% Cash on Cash Return!!!

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

@Caleb Brown Thank you.  Not bad for my first duplex deal.

Post: My First Duplex with almost 20% Cash on Cash Return!!!

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Cumming.

Purchase price: $180,000
Cash invested: $50,000

2 Bedroom 2 bathroom Duplex located in the wealthiest and fastest-growing county in Georgia, Forsyth County. Originally built in 1983, this ranch style duplex had not seen much updating yet has had constant renters.

We renovated one unit (the other unit was occupied with a long term low income tenant which for now is staying in place bc they are no trouble at all). We spent a little more on the renovation than desired however we were able to command above-average rent.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

This deal fell in my lap. A local investor that I had built a relationship had this deal brought to him, however he was unable to move on it because he was tied up in a new acquisition of a large apartment complex.

The seller was offering very favorable owner financing for As Is. This allowed me to close very quickly and begin the rehab to get the property at 100% occupancy.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

As I mentioned. This deal was a pocket deal that was brought to someone I had cultivated a networking relationship with. Since he was unable to move on the deal, he brought it to me, as well as made several suggestions on areas of renovation.
Once I met the previous owners, I began negotiating terms.

How did you finance this deal?

The previous owner offered seller financing. We negotiated a 5 year term but on an 30 year ammoritization. I also negotiated an interest rate of 5%. The only downside is there is an early payoff penalty in the first 12 months of 4%, but there is plenty or equity to draw on in a BRRR strategy to cover that or just wait until next spring and refinance at that time.

How did you add value to the deal?

I renovated the unoccupied side. We put in all LVT flooring throughout the 1000 sq ft. unit, repainted, all new lights, outlets, switches, appliances, blinds, knobs, and counter tops and sinks. Aside from a termite remediation, everything was cosmetic and relatives easy to remodel.

I plan on renovating the other side when the current tenants move out. After some lessons, I believe I can shave off a month of time and about 30% in costs the next time around.

What was the outcome?

As a result, I put in approximately $50,000 in cash into the purchase and renovation of this property. Now that we are 100% occupied and adjusting for Mortgage, CapEx, Repairs and Maintenance, Insurance, and vacancy (and Property management expenses) we cash flow $800/month.

This will yeild us just above 19% Cash on Cash return in the first 12 months. Additionally, we have added $70,000 in equity with the renovations and proper management.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

So, I learned a great deal with this.

First, as has been said many many times. Real estate is about relationships. This deal found me because of the people I knew and spoke to. Had I not spoken to folks about my real estate plans, this deal would have never found me. Additionally, I leaned on several other relationships to help with the renovation.

Thinking deeper into this, that really is the only REAL lesson learned. Everything else is secondary to that.

Post: My First Duplex with almost 20% Cash on Cash Return!!!

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Cumming.

Purchase price: $180,000
Cash invested: $50,000

2 Bedroom 2 bathroom Duplex located in the wealthiest and fastest-growing county in Georgia, Forsyth County. Originally built in 1983, this ranch style duplex had not seen much updating yet has had constant renters.

We renovated one unit (the other unit was occupied with a long term low income tenant which for now is staying in place bc they are no trouble at all). We spent a little more on the renovation than desired however we were able to command above-average rent.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

This deal fell in my lap. A local investor that I had built a relationship had this deal brought to him, however he was unable to move on it because he was tied up in a new acquisition of a large apartment complex.

The seller was offering very favorable owner financing for As Is. This allowed me to close very quickly and begin the rehab to get the property at 100% occupancy.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

As I mentioned. This deal was a pocket deal that was brought to someone I had cultivated a networking relationship with. Since he was unable to move on the deal, he brought it to me, as well as made several suggestions on areas of renovation.
Once I met the previous owners, I began negotiating terms. Since they were offering owner financing well below market both on the rate as well as on the sale of the property, I did not haggle much on the sale price. There was plenty of meat on the bone.

How did you finance this deal?

The previous owner offered seller financing. We negotiated a 5 year term but on an 30 year ammoritization. I also negotiated an interest rate of 5%. The only downside is there is an early payoff penalty in the first 12 months of 4%, but there is plenty or equity to draw on in a BRRR strategy to cover that or just wait until next spring and refinance at that time.

How did you add value to the deal?

I renovated the unoccupied side. We put in all LVT flooring throughout the 1000 sq ft. unit, repainted, all new lights, outlets, switches, appliances, blinds, knobs, and counter tops and sinks. Aside from a termite remediation, everything was cosmetic and relatives easy to remodel.

I plan on renovating the other side when the current tenants move out. After some lessons, I believe I can shave off a month of time and about 30% in costs the next time around.

What was the outcome?

As a result, I put in approximately $50,000 in cash into the purchase and renovation of this property. Now that we are 100% occupied and adjusting for Mortgage, CapEx, Repairs and Maintenance, Insurance, and vacancy (and Property management expenses) we cash flow $800/month.

This will yeild us just above 19% Cash on Cash return in the first 12 months. Additionally, we have added $70,000 in equity with the renovations and proper management.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

So, I learned a great deal with this.

First, as has been said many many times. Real estate is about relationships. This deal found me because of the people I knew and spoke to. Had I not spoken to folks about my real estate plans, this deal would have never found me. Additionally, I leaned on several other relationships to help with the renovation.

Thinking deeper into this, that really is the only REAL lesson learned. Everything else is secondary to that.

Post: Using BRRRR Calculator with a Subject To Deal

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

I am looking for some guidance. I am currently needing a analyze a BRRRR deal that I am about to make an offer on. I am attempting to purchase the property as a Subject To. I plan on offering the current owner cash in their hand to allow me to take over the property subject to their current financing...

How would I accurately enter this information into the BP BRRRR Calculator to get an accurate analysis of the deal?

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

Post: Should I Buy in Jackson MS?

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @Matthew White:

@Jay Hinrichs copy that..  I am also looking in the Pearl and Madison areas.

...  Not sure why you would leave GA to invest in MS though.. 

@Jay Hinrichs

@Jay Hinrichs The problem I am finding with the GA market is that there is so much investing and frankly alot of stupid money that prices are unsustainable and overly inflated.  Had I bought years ago I would be in great shape.  I believe the margins are too narrow, especially for someone with such limited experience as I have.  Granted the limited experience is a great arguement why I should be investing in my backyard, however I am only working with 100k to start in cash and I prefer not to have to use leverage until after the properties are cash flowing.

Thank you for your insight.  I greatly appreciate hearing from someone who knows their stuff.  Good luck on your closing next week.

Post: Should I Buy in Jackson MS?

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

@Jay Hinrichs copy that..  I am also looking in the Pearl and Madison areas.

Post: Should I Buy in Jackson MS?

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

@Jay Hinrichs, Thank you, sir.  I agree the more I learn about the area.  This property is close to the University Hospital and two community college campuses, however, the area is still very depressed. I spoke to my agent today, (I am an early riser) and we are looking in more stable areas that are safer.

Don't want to lose my $$$ like you said.

Thank you for your thoughts.

Post: First 5 actions you took to be a real estate investor?

Matthew White
Pro Member
Posted
  • Cumming, GA
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 38

Just like @David Espinosa said.

Educate, Make a Plan (what are you going to look for), Save and reduce debt, Save capital, then make a purchase.

A House Hack would be one of the "safest" and smartest ways to start.

Good Luck and just do something.  Don't spend years thinking about it, action creates more action!