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All Forum Posts by: Matthew Richey

Matthew Richey has started 1 posts and replied 14 times.

Originally posted by @David Moore:

@Matthew Richey

I took a good, hard second look at the area, the home, the comps, and I have to stand corrected.  I'm with you...I think you are in the right range.  Hats off to you for having 25K.  But for whatever reason, this seller has big ideas for the price he wants.  The spread between list and sale on your comps is much more narrow than the spread you are shooting for.

I love your idea of adding a unit, but watch out for zoning.  Make sure the city permits a triplex at this site.  It probably is, but good to check on.

The psychology of sellers is hard to predict.  I've seen sellers in my market just hold on forever until someone gave them their asking price.  But this guy seems to be in a hurry.  If your financing is solid, with pre-approvals in place, that may buy you some price reduction.  But the comps belie that the spread between asking and sale price is much narrower than a 25% spread you are going for.  Hey, I hope you get it.  

Concerning the 2% rule, what determines the 2% is your gross rents divided by the purchase price of the house.  So if each unit rents for $1100.0,  assuming you rent both, than this property at $260K is a .08%.  

You are 22, you have 25K, and you have the guts to invest in real estate, so you are ahead of the pack.  One thing to consider.  In 2006, the owner purchased it for just 52K.  He has a big capital gain coming.  Find out if he owns multiple properties in the area.  You can do this by looking up tax records, then cross reference his name to see if he owns any others.

Knowledge is power in negotiations.  If this is his only rental, you know something about him.  If he owns many, he may prefer an all cash offer because he intends to roll proceeds via 1031 exchange to another property.  I bet its the former...the impatience is there.  There are a lot of variables here still to consider, but you are off to a good start.  Please post what happens.

 I put the offer in. I decided to change my down payment to 15k so I have some more money to work upgrading the place right off the bat.

I tried doing a cross reference but not quite sure how to do that on the tax website.

From his Facebook I found out he recently retired as a mortgage broker.

 So the best way to get that 2% rule the work is to find something dirt cheap and remodel it.

I'm pre-approved for 230k but since it's a duplex I'm able to go higher

I'm learning so much! I can see real estate investing going a long way with me

Thank you!

Originally posted by @David Moore:

@Matthew Richey

Interesting.  If I were the seller, I wouldn't consider your offer.  You are 65K below asking and not offering all cash.  You have to give them an incentive to want to sell to you at such a big discount.  I also checked the comps, and I'm not seeing the same range you are.  You have to not just price compare, but compare square feet on comps as well.  I hope you get it, though, but I think you will have to raise your price, especially with financing it.

 About 1200sf is unfinished so 3000sf is finished. Here are the compares http://www.matrix.nwmls.com/Matrix/Public/EmailCMA...

Any suggestions or ideas on how to make my offer better? Besides all Cash 

Thank you for your help. I'm 22 and I'm learning as much as I can!

Originally posted by @Alex Chin:

Hey @Matthew Richey. Without getting into any deep analysis, I would say the first thing you need to remember is that if you're going to be owner-occupying the property as a househack, your equation changes entirely. The goal is not to generate some kind of massive monthly cash-flow, you are looking to defray your living expenses while gaining valuable hands-on management experience and building equity in a property with a very low interest rate.

Don't start evaluating this property based on the 2% rule, 1% rule, or whatever. Instead, look at it from the perspective of: "Well, I need to live somewhere, and it may as well be "free" to me so that I don't have $1,000+ going into someone's pocket ever month." Treat extra cash as a bonus on this property. If you can finish the basement and get a studio apartment out it, so much the better (make sure that this is permitted first!). My instinct is to advise holding rents slightly under-market as your priority in this situation is to minimize vacancies so as to reduce your personal operating costs.

 Thank you for your help! That's such a great point. 

I hope to work something out! :) I would love to get more units someday.

I'm about to put my offer in for a my first real estate investment.

In Auburn, WA which is about 40 minutes outside of Seattle,WA

 Listing price was 330k and dropped $5,000 about every 6 days which is now $315k I'm about to make an offer at 250k comparables in the area have sold $235k to $265k

The tax appraisal is 281k

Total square footage is 4200 and its a duplex 2100 square feet is on the top floor and then in the basement has a family room and unfinished portion.

I would be living on one side  or possibly making the basement into a another unit for owner-occupied

Offer price $250k with 25k down at 3.6% interest rate

Current rent that's collected $1930

Operating expenses including 10% for repairs garbage, sewer, insurance property tax is $745

Mortgage $1007

Mortgage insurance $111

 that would be a .37% for the 2% rule

I was thinking I could possibly raise rent possibly $1100 and then if I was able to make that apartment get those numbers better.

No other offers on the property currently has bad curb appeal

 Any advice would be much appreciated as I'm wanting to jump into real estate but don't want to make a huge mistake.