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All Forum Posts by: Matthew McNeil

Matthew McNeil has started 31 posts and replied 686 times.

Post: Anyone else feel like the forums are losing value?

Matthew McNeilPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Boise/Portland
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Originally posted by @Jimmy Stewart:
Brevity is the soul of wit. Too much egotistical bloviating.

Polonius, in act 2, scene 2 of Hamlet right?

In case you missed it, this is a RE investing blog. Not a Shakespeare idiom blog.

Post: Anyone else feel like the forums are losing value?

Matthew McNeilPosted
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Sometimes I find posts regarding LLC questions, for example, have been asked and answered ad nauseum. I wonder if people know there's a search button. HOWEVER, many of the newbies asking those types of questions are looking for CONNECTION and they value the personal attention they're receiving and deserve as fellow members of this BP family. I'm counted among those who really needed what the seasoned experts were patiently offering when I walked in the shoes of someone who valued any input or advice I could get; even if I didn't realize there was a search option. Thanks BP!

Post: do you need register an LLC in multiple states ?

Matthew McNeilPosted
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Originally posted by @Ricardo A Perez:

Hello BP family, 

question i want to create my investment company LLC. i currently live in Florida but, am planning to move to Massachusetts next year and will be primarily investing in Massachusetts. The question i have if i register the LLC in Florida do i need to register it again in Massachusetts when i move up there ? or can i just register it in one state and use it in any where i go ? thank you.

You do not need to register your LLC in separate states. You can register it in FLA, get your FEIN, Cert of Existence, By-Laws and use those to set up a bank account or mailing address in another state. Bear in mind, when you move to Mass you'll need to identify a Registered Agent to represent the LLC in FLA.

Post: Making mortgage payment after transfer to LLC

Matthew McNeilPosted
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Originally posted by @Mike Jones:

@Matthew McNeil I though because the bank system will have my name, they would be confused when I present them the LLC check.

As long as the mortgage is paid they don't care who the money came from. However, it might trigger a "due on transfer" clause, but you should be fine if its a conventional federally backed mortgage. Did you advise your bank that you were transferring it to your LLC?

Post: Making mortgage payment after transfer to LLC

Matthew McNeilPosted
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I pay my mortgages with my LLC checks. Its a non-issue, although I've now set it up with auto withdraws from me LLC account. Nothing needed to make it smooth.

Post: Can I use an LLC to do business if the property isn't under it?

Matthew McNeilPosted
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Originally posted by @Jess Archives:

For example, I want to use the LLC when I do business with property managers, contractors, opening bank accounts, accounting, cash flow, taxes etc; but at the same time the properties for the mentioned transactions are under another entity

Can you do business with an LLC even though the property is not under the LLC? Are there ramifications there?

(The house will not be under the LLC as to not trigger due on sale, as rarely as that may happen)

Yes, you can do business even if the property hasn't been QC'd to the LLC. No ramifications. Chances are that you wouldn't trigger the due on sale clause.

The lender can exercise the "due on sale" clause if the name(s) of the buyer are not the same name(s) as the members identified as the owners of the LLC. For clarity; as with a trust, lenders do not exercise the "due on transfer/sale" clause when real property is transferred to the SAME individuals in an official capacity (e.g. Joe and Jane Smith as trustees of Smith Trust). Typically, the same applies to LLCs where you and your spouse are sole members (single or multiple member LLC).

If you take out a mortgage personally and transfer the property to your LLC that you control, you should be exempt. Also, if your loan was conventional; Fannie Mae recognizes the legitimacy of a QC between the mortgage holders and the LLC so long as the LLC is controlled by the borrowers;

If the property was owned prior to closing by a limited liability corporation (LLC) that is majority-owned or controlled by the borrower(s), the time it was held by the LLC may be counted towards meeting the borrower’s six-month ownership requirement. (In order to close the refinance transaction, ownership must be transferred out of the LLC and into the name of the individual borrower(s). See for additional details.)

Regardless, you should always talk to your lender and tell them exactly what you’re planning and get their approval.

Post: HELP US! No rent to be paid for more than 6 months in Seattle!

Matthew McNeilPosted
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@Nikki Closser
My portfolio (SFHs) are in the Boise/Meridian area.  My RE agent of almost 15 years said that he receives many new clients from the Seattle area who are pivoting their investments away from Seattle into Idaho due to the growing concerns such as you've expressed.  And, my PM told me yesterday that only 10 tenants of the 500 properties they manage didn't pay rent for May.  If I were you, as a few other BP members have suggested, I'd sell and re-invest (1031 Exchange - ping Dave Foster) into a more landlord friendly state.  You're fighting an uphill battle that is not in your longterm bests interests.  

Post: HELP US! No rent to be paid for more than 6 months in Seattle!

Matthew McNeilPosted
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As a few people have commented, signing the petition isn't going to work.  
Start a GoFund me page to fund your legal costs to sue Seattle regarding this issue and invite the BP members to voluntarily join it. After all, aren't we a 1M+ group of people?  Not sure if that's allowed here on BP, but we're behind you.

Post: LLC / legal set up of your rentals

Matthew McNeilPosted
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Originally posted by @Dzenan Catic:

@Clint Coons

This is the response I got from the banks title team. Does this mean that I would be okay? I asked if the quit claim deed would cause my title policy to be void: 

"No. If the owner quitclaims the property into an LLC that is wholly-owned by the owner then the title policy continues
in full force and a Form 107.9 endorsement is not required.
If, however, the owner quitclaims the property into an LLC that is not wholly-owned by the owner, then a Form 107.9 endorsement would be required to name an additional insured. NOTE: A similar result will occur when dealing with a corporation. If the stock, shares, memberships, or other equity interests are wholly owned by the owner of the property
then the title policy continues in full force and a Form 107.9 endorsement is not required. If, however, the owner quitclaims the property into a corporation where its stock, shares, memberships, or other equity interests are not wholly-owned by the owner, then a Form 107.9 endorsement would be required to name an additional insured.”

Here's an extended post I've made other forums that you may want to also consider and want to research;

Regarding the transfer of a property to and LLC; The lender can exercise the "due on sale" clause if the name(s) of the buyer are not the same name(s) as the members identified as the owners of the LLC. For clarity; as with a trust, lenders do not exercise the "due on transfer/sale" clause when real property is transferred to the SAME individuals in an official capacity (e.g. Joe and Jane Smith as trustees of Smith Trust). Typically, the same applies to LLCs where you and your spouse are sole members (single or multiple member LLC).

If you take out a mortgage personally and transfer the property to your LLC that you control, you should be exempt. Also, if your loan was conventional; Fannie Mae recognizes the legitimacy of a QC between the mortgage holders and the LLC so long as the LLC is controlled by the borrowers;

If the property was owned prior to closing by a limited liability corporation (LLC) that is majority-owned or controlled by the borrower(s), the time it was held by the LLC may be counted towards meeting the borrower’s six-month ownership requirement. (In order to close the refinance transaction, ownership must be transferred out of the LLC and into the name of the individual borrower(s). See for additional details.)

I believe Freddie Mac follows suit. Here’s a BP post on the same topic;

Regardless, you should always talk to your lender and tell them exactly what you’re planning and get their approval.

Next is to check with the Title Company regarding the Title insurance. Generally, the coverage of the Title Company policy will state; “The coverage of this policy shall continue in force as of Date of Policy in favor of an Insured after acquisition of the Title by an Insured or after conveyance by an Insured, but only so long as the Insured retains an estate or interest in the Land, or holds an obligation secured by a purchase money Mortgage given by a purchaser from the Insured, or only so long as the Insured shall have liability by reason of warranties in any transfer or conveyance of the Title.” However, its best to ask your Title company if the insurance coverage remains intact if the asset is transferred.

I am not a lawyer and this is not professional advice.