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All Forum Posts by: Matt Bell

Matt Bell has started 18 posts and replied 81 times.

Post: First Flip - 670 Miles Away (Montgomery, AL) - Success!

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

@Jay Hinrichs

Thanks you!

We are working with a local bank that only charges $500 origination fee on our loans, 5.375% that is fixed for 5 years and amortized for 15. The rest of "Finance Costs" was appraisals as we had to get 2 (as is, and then ARV estimate appraisal). The monthly mortgage payments including interest are factored in to the holding costs aspect of our numbers. We put 25% down and financed the balance of the purchase price - then paid cash for the rehab costs.

You are correct on the large spread aspects.  On our second flip, we are factoring in 15% contingency (older house) and we negotiated a better purchase price (estate sale) so our spread and projected profit are much larger.  We will see if that works out for us or not.

Post: First Flip - 670 Miles Away (Montgomery, AL) - Success!

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

@Roy Oliphant

I went to law school in Montgomery, AL and there is no on campus housing for law students.  We have been working with the law school to start renting properties to law students and getting direct access to that student population (great tenants who typically stay for 3 years).  We have 5 rental properties right now and a 6th rental under rehab.  So, we already have a great realtor, handyman, contractor, property management team, etc - on the ground in Montgomery.  We decided to try a flip to help fund some more rental purchases and ultimately if we could not sell it at the right price - we could have rented it out as an alternate exit strategy.  

Post: First Flip - 670 Miles Away (Montgomery, AL) - Success!

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

Hi BP Community,

My business partner and I live in Houston, Texas but for various reasons have been investing in Montgomery Alabama. We recently sold our first flip in Montgomery, AL - managing the process from 670 miles away in Houston/Katy, Texas. During the process, I made 1 trip to see the progress and do some painting. There is a old saying that a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client - well, a lawyer who hires himself has a painter has a fool for client (that and other lessons learned discussed below). The property was a HUD foreclosure in need of a lot of work. Here is a quick look at the numbers:

Sale Price: $172,000 

- Purchase Price: $90,000

- Closing Costs (Purchase): $2,179

- Finance Costs (Purchase): $1,100

- Inspections: $700 (initial inspection, later structural inspection/report)

- Rehab Costs: $51,768

- Holding Costs: $3,745 (Purchased 9/28/15 and sold 3/4/16)

- Sales Commission: $10,320

- Home Warranty: $485

- Closing Costs (Sale): $3,852

Net Profit: $7,851

This project was an education for us that ultimately put nearly $8,000 in our pockets - that's better than any guru course I have come across.  We learned the following lessons during and since this first flip:

1. HUD will come off the asking price - we probably could have purchased the house for closer to $80,000;

2. Set a contingency budget of at least 10% of the overall budget;

3. If you are not onsite to monitor the contractor - you need a "boots on the ground" project manager;

4. Purchase appliances and other major items together and ask for a discount (saved a lot on appliances because we bought 3 sets (this house plus 2 rentals) all at the same time;

5. Do not try to save money by doing things yourself if you are not capable of actually doing them (I flew in to paint the exterior and did not finish while I was there because of rain and underestimating time required - plus I got paint on the brick which I had to pay the contractor to fix);

6. Do not try to sell a house during the holidays (we already knew this but when the project got delayed we ended up listing Thanksgiving week instead of during October); and

7. Trust your realtor - we pushed a more aggressive list price than recommended initially by our realtor which probably caused us to miss out on some buyers and then had to lower the asking price by $10,000 when we needed to get our capital out for other projects.

The original rehab estimate was closer to $45,000 but we encountered the following unforeseen issues we had to deal with: (1) Drainage issue in back yard required a 40' retaining wall and french drain ($4,000); (2) Roof of addition was not property joined to main structure causing a buckle after a heavy rain - we had to get a structural engineer's report and fix that problem in order to sell the house ($1,500); and (3) Miscellaneous items here and there that we forgot to account for $1,268.  

The project was also delayed nearly 5 weeks due to heavy rains which delayed putting in the retaining wall.  Plus, Our contractor was also in a major auto accident (not his fault), attacked by a dog (requiring skin grafts to close it up), had a grandmother in ICU, and had a young daughter who required specialized medical care out of town - all during our rehab project.  We confirmed that all these events actually happened and none were his fault through a mutual friend who had referred us to the contractor.  But we learned that no matter how well you plan, there are events that can delay your project which you could never expect.

Here are some before pictures:

And....here are the after pics:

We think our first flip turned out really nice and we are excited for the young family who purchased it. We hope you enjoyed reading about our first flip.

We just closed on what we hope will be our second flip - utilizing the same contractor (hopefully he has better luck during this project).  We will post an update once we finish it.  This one is a historic home built in 1936 in the Cloverdale area of Montgomery so it will likely present some different challenges.

Post: Is This A Good Wholesaling Plan?

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

@Account Closed I am actively buying up rental properties in the Montgomery area and have my own contractors to do the rehabs.  Put me on your buyers list and give me a call sometime to discuss what we are looking for or email me directly.

Post: General Contractor - Montgomery, Alabama

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

Yes sir. @Latravis Brazil

Post: General Contractor - Montgomery, Alabama

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

David Schofield of American Builders LLC is trustworthy 334-657-7958

Here is the last project he worked on for us - http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6325-Old-Pond-Rd-Montgomery-AL-36117/72832464_zpid/ 

Post: Montgomery AL - Buyer or Seller's Market?

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

Hi Tricia,

We are actively investing in Montgomery with 4 rentals and a flip closed in the last 4 months.  The flip just got listed but we have had some strong traffic even so close to Thanksgiving.  The rentals are seeing good action too but the ideal time to list rentals in definitely in the summer.  There are 4 Universities in town plus the Air Force and summer seems to be prime move in time.  Are you looking buy properties to rent or provide capital to projects in the market and make a return on your money?

Let me know what your plans and I can help put you in touch good contractors, realtors, closing attorneys, etc - or maybe we can Partner up in some way. 

Matt

Post: Tax records off by over 500 sq ft - Measure the house!

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

No storage buildings we are aware of and the local authorities claim they would not count anyway.  It remains a mystery to everyone involved how it was so far off.  

Unfortunately we are not local to that market but we are now adding a line item to our initial inspection checklist for the inspector to measure the house and confirm square footage.

Thanks for the feedback!

Post: Tax records off by over 500 sq ft - Measure the house!

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

Hello BP Community,

I wanted to share a recent experience I had which took the equity out of a deal in an unexpected way.  Our realtor's broker knew a family who was looking to unload a property that was in a trust as part of an estate.  The house needed a decent amount of work and the neighborhood was not as good as it once was.  We are remote investors so our realtor sent us pics and all the details including the size - 1,928 sq ft 3/2.  We confirmed the details using the county assessor's website.  We received comps from the realtor which showed that rehabbed rentals in that area appraise for $25-27/ft and should rent for $750 to $800/mo.  Based on this information we expected the house to appraise for $48-50K when all was said and done.

We generally try to use the BRRR strategy made famous by Mr. Brandon Turner on the podcasts. So, here are the numbers:

Purchase Price $22,500

Rehab Budget $13,500

Total Invested $36,000 (closing costs and things are including in our round numbers here).  

So, we finished the rehab, listed it for rent, and started the cash out refinance process.  We received an appraisal of $36,000 which shocked us and at first we could not figure out why it was so low - and then it hit us - the appraiser measured the house at 1,417 sq ft.  There is a screened in patio but it is not heated or cooled so we knew that did not count - but even if it was counted - it would not have added 500+ sq ft.  Long story short, the appraiser's measurements are accurate and the sq ft in the tax records has been wrong for 40+ years from what we can tell - with no obvious explanation as to why they were off by so much.  (NOTE: Taxes are so low in this market that no one really challenges tax values or sizes because you only save like $100 if you win the challenge).

So, now we have a nice rental that should still hit the 2% rule but we have no equity in the deal and thus cannot get our cash out of the deal - we can get 80% of it out at least.

LESSON LEARNED - Don't trust tax records and have your contractor measure the house to make sure you are at least in the right ball park.

I am creating a list of lessons learned in this business - we have only been in it for 6 months in earnest (closed 4 deals with 1 more set next week) but I never saw this one coming.

Any creative ideas on how to deal with such a situation? Has anyone else encountered an issue where the tax records show the house is 25% larger than it actually is?  

Post: VA Price Reduction While Under Contract

Matt Bell
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Montgomery, AL
  • Posts 93
  • Votes 95

We have tried to get VA to reduce prices for a number of major issues during due diligence. They never agree to do it. They want you to cancel the contract and put in a new offer once it is back on the market. Terrible process. Same goes for HUD foreclosures in my experience.