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All Forum Posts by: MARY CLEMENT-HILL

MARY CLEMENT-HILL has started 2 posts and replied 13 times.

Well, I'm back from the first cleaning and I have to say...I never in a million years expected so much advice.  The insight, the knowledge, the thoughtful discussion...really, I'm touched and kinda floored!  ;-)

Okay, the tenant is 'a nice guy' but he obviously has issues.  I'd call him a hoarder.  Not quite as bad as those you see on the show Hoarders...but close.  BUT, here's the cool part, he actually is allowing us to get rid of much of it!  All the garbage, obviously.  But also many other items, too.  I overheard a discussion between the two about a chair.  Tenant thinks it's a really nice chair and wants to fix it up.  My husband calmly talked him through why it isn't the best idea because of this, that and that other thing.  I don't know the outcome, but he seems amendable to overall change, including getting rid of the chair, maybe.  

I am actually beginning to think that, with the leg up we're offering, this guy *may* pull his weight as a tenant a bit more.  Plus, I do believe he's actually corralled a maid service to start once we're through renovating his whole two-level unit.  

Just a note about this place, my husband made the mistake (not the worst mistake, but still...) of buying a 70 +/- year old STUCCO 4plex here in Oregon.  There is NO END to the work.  Though he didn't have to do much for about 2 years of the 15 we've owned it.  But I'd love to have the 14,000 hours back he's spent replacing all the main drain lines, replacing the giant fence (posts also need to be replaced almost yearly due to high water table), laying all new concrete driveways and sidewalks, the 8+ remodels across the various units, the new roof and gutters, the windows he's replaced, the grinding/caulking/sanding/priming/texturing/painting of the billion and a half cracks in the plaster interior walls due to the poor underlying structure, the loads of landscaping installed specifically for a needy tenant who moved out after a few months (Cypress trees?  Really?  So why do they keep dying and falling over dear?).....but the WORST so far is the exterior paint job.  I can't even talk about that, gets me too upset.  Oh, let's not forget all the garage headers that are giant cement 'beams' and are all cracking....hope the Big One doesn't hit as has been predicted.  

I'm going to promote selling the place, even though it's totally rentable and makes decent money.  It's just taking way way way too much time and effort to keep it up.  Well, until then, there's still a TON of work to do over there with more everyday.  At least this particular tenant's kitchen is clean-ish.  Had to clean around full drawers and stuff stacked all over the place.  I wish I could show my husband this thread....oh man, I so want him to read these.  But I really can't take even more rage and nasty crap.  It would only make things a lot worse than they already are...but I totally appreciate EVERY SINGLE MESSAGE.  Wow, thank you all so so much!!!!!  I learned a lot, even if I can't actually act on some of the excellent advice.  WTF indeed.  :-)

Whew!  He's off to the bar with his contractor friend.  Yay.  Okay everyone, I got up the courage to ask the simple question....why am I cleaning the tenant's filth and not the tenant.  Well, as expected, a rage tornado ensued.  But, once it died back a bit, I gleaned some helpful info.  First, the hubs is trying to be a 'nice guy' and doesn't want to throw the tenant out.  I'm certainly encouraged to kick him out though if I want to take over running the building.  Second, the guy doesn't have the money to have it deep cleaned so I can get another job to pay for it if I don't want to do it.  Third, this is the GOOD part.  Apparently, he's making the tenant have maid service come in once a week to keep the place up once we've gotten everything back to acceptable levels.  It'll be cheap maid service, but that's better than nothing.  At least there's that....

All I can say is, I hope we sell this place.  :-))  Soon!!!

Thank you everyone, I'll try to reply to some of your individual comments and I hope you all have a great weekend.  Think of me while I clean 18 years worth of kitchen GREEEEZ.  LOL!

I am blown AWAY!  What awesome and well thought responses.  And you've corroborated my thoughts completely.  HOWEVER.  The note about this maybe being a husband/wife issue....is right on the money.  I have zero say in things like this and am yelled at for bringing ANYTHING up.  Seriously.  So.....since he just walked in the door early and I don't want to experience the rage...better sign out for the moment.  Thanks so so so much.  Excellent advice!  I'm so touched....and I'll be back.  :-)

Hi everyone,

I've got a weird question today.  My husband has been working on our ancient 4plex including what started as a small handful of repairs at one of the units where a tenant's been living for about 18 years (he's not leaving yet either).  The guy went thru some health issues and depression, consequently the place is a wreck.  My husband hauled out three truck loads of garbage for the dump, paid for it and loaded and unloaded it too. Now he's replacing most of the tenant's appliances with newer used.  AND he wants me (The Wife) to head out there and CLEAN THIS GUY'S KITCHEN AND BATHROOM.  I've already cleaned the used appliances (range and fridge and range fan and microwave) AND cleaned all the cabinet doors brought home for that specific purpose.  They were filthy, mega.  Believe me, I don't mind helping out, it's my property, too.  BUT, this seems over the top.  The guy's not leaving so why should we clean his 18 years worth of filth, and why shouldn't he do it?  FYI - I've asked the hubs and I got rage + wrath + fury at my daring to ask such a dumb question.  

I am so glad I found and posted at this forum! The wide variety of answers and information is astounding and I appreciate every single posting. So thank you. I'd like to say, see you soon...but I hope I don't. If I do, there's a tough problem needing help. :)

Excellent idea Troy! I like how you worded it, too.

So many great ideas, sure am glad I found this community! Thanks everyone,
Mary

You guys are great, I really mean it. I don't think I've ever posted to a forum for advice and gotten such a warm welcome PLUS so much great advice. You all are TOPS in my book. Cheers!

Exactly what I thought Jon. There really is no polite, non-damaging, way to say "15 boxes of xmas junk under this house is too much!". My idea is to follow the 'we need room to perform service/work' method. But we'll see. She's not worth losing, that's for sure.

Thank you Tevis!

This tenant's been great for about 3-4 years now. Just a LOT of stuff. Personally, I don't mind it, but it can make it tough to do work around the property (inside or out) sometimes. I was just spraying weeds there the other day and she had a huge canoe lying on the hose and spout. There's always 'things' scattered around, too. But we each have different views on how to live. Hers involves lots of stuff with some more junk on the side! Sheesh. I like the idea of 'here's another place to store you're crud'. But she may have already used that, too! ;-) I'm just dumbfounded as to how you can own so much. My house is about 1100 sqft and everything is neat, organized and is out the door if it's not needed. No room for useless things in my world.

Thanks again!

Thanks Kelly, and I think you're right. Too much stuff to move out! The house is around 2000 sqft and only a single mom with two kids. I think she has so much stuff to overcompensate for the divorce. Anything to make the kids 'happy'.