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All Forum Posts by: Mark V.

Mark V. has started 7 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Looking for financing advice

Mark V.Posted
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I'm at the point new where I need to figure out if I should pay up in taxes and pass on deductions to report up or just write down and go non-traditional. I hate paying extra taxes myself. Part of the annoyance of my CPA training.

Post: Looking for financing advice

Mark V.Posted
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Quote from @Gary Mascitis:
Quote from @Mark V.:

Hi all,

I'm nearly done with my taxes so I want to start prepping. Looking to buy in the summer or near the end of the year.

I may actually qualify for a traditional but I need some advice.

Right now I'm a hybrid w-2 and 1099 worker. I started a new job in January (after being without the W-2 for 6 months due to a layoff) - how long will I need to work at this new job to have this included as part of my income? I've been in the same career field for over 16 years. Gross monthly from that is 11,250.

Also my 1099s add up to 166K (13.8K monthly) for 2023. My taxable for the business was only 16K though because I did a big sec 179 for a vehicle and did another set of big write offs for tax purposes.

I also have had a roommate for nearly 2 years. Who pays me $800 a month. I have documentation of payments and evidence he lives here and a rental agreement. He will be moving with me in the new home. I will also get another roommate who will also sign an agreement (I’m house hacking), but I think I need them to live with me for a year for it to count.

Please let me know what a lender would include for gross income for traditional for non-traditional. I'm weighing my options. I'm looking at homes 500K and under and looking to make a 10% down payment (I can do more just planning). I think that puts me at $4100 a month all in with escrow included. I also have a $2000 a month child support order on my record and a $580 car note. No other debt.

I have 2 CCs I pay off every month and a 810 credit score.


Hi Mark,

I agree with what Devin said above me. With DSCR loans, none of the problems you are facing would be an issue. These loans don't require W2's, paystubs, or tax returns. The only problem I see is these loans are not made for owner occupied. They are strictly for investment. Also, for these loan types, typical down payment would be 20-25% down. Happy to answer any other questions you may have!

Best,


 This is a primary home not an investment property. To my knowledge DSCRs only work for investment property. I'll be living in the home.

Post: Looking for financing advice

Mark V.Posted
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Quote from @Jon Schwartz:

@Mark V., you should first look into traditional financings as you'll get the best rates with a conventional loan.

Despite your six months off, if your new job is in the same field in which you have 16 years of experience, I believe you only need 3 months on the job to qualify that income.

Lenders will want to look at your 1099s for the last two years. So, question: what do you 1099s average for 2022 and 2023? If there's a huge jump between 2022 and 2023, that'll count against you (the 1099 income will be heavily discounted because it's inconsistent). For the 1099 income, you'll also need something like a profit-and-loss statement for 2024 to show that that income is continuing.

Rental income from a roommate? I don't think that can count as income, nor do I think future income from roommates will count. If you were buying a multifamily, you could count income from the other unit(s). But I don't think roommate income is a thing, and existing roommate income definitely isn't a thing if it's an apartment you're renting.

I recommend you find a local mortgage broker who does conventional loans, give him/her a call, and ask to have a conversation about your borrowing limit *before* going through the pre-approval process. A good mortgage broker will have that conversation with you. Share your details (though you'll also need 2022 details) and ask how much you can be approved for, give or take.

Good luck!

Best,

Jon


 1099 income in 2022 was 110K. it was 166K in 2023. I write off a lot though if going the traditional route. I had a SEC 179 write off in 2023 that brought my income in 2023 way down (I'm a YouTuber and Blogger - I film a lot so I got a truck over 6K lbs and wrote it off after documenting 65% business usage via my mileage logs.

Post: Looking for financing advice

Mark V.Posted
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Hi There. A DSCR loan wouldn't work in my metro. Rental rates aren't high enough I would have to probably put over 33% down which I don't have that much to put in. This would be for a primary not an investment also

Post: Looking for financing advice

Mark V.Posted
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  • Votes 3

Hi all,

I'm nearly done with my taxes so I want to start prepping. Looking to buy in the summer or near the end of the year.

I may actually qualify for a traditional but I need some advice.

Right now I'm a hybrid w-2 and 1099 worker. I started a new job in January (after being without the W-2 for 6 months due to a layoff) - how long will I need to work at this new job to have this included as part of my income? I've been in the same career field for over 16 years. Gross monthly from that is 11,250.

Also my 1099s add up to 166K (13.8K monthly) for 2023. My taxable for the business was only 16K though because I did a big sec 179 for a vehicle and did another set of big write offs for tax purposes.

I also have had a roommate for nearly 2 years. Who pays me $800 a month. I have documentation of payments and evidence he lives here and a rental agreement. He will be moving with me in the new home. I will also get another roommate who will also sign an agreement (I’m house hacking), but I think I need them to live with me for a year for it to count.

Please let me know what a lender would include for gross income for traditional for non-traditional. I'm weighing my options. I'm looking at homes 500K and under and looking to make a 10% down payment (I can do more just planning). I think that puts me at $4100 a month all in with escrow included. I also have a $2000 a month child support order on my record and a $580 car note. No other debt.

I have 2 CCs I pay off every month and a 810 credit score.

Quote from @Lynn Wise:
Quote from @Mark V.:
Quote from @Lynn Wise:

I agree with Elliot!! Many duplexes in Austin have been split into two "condos" that can be bought and sold separately. That's great if your primary goal is getting your foot into an expensive market.


 Is that common here in Austin? Wasn't sure. It would keep my debt-to-income ratio down though. Not sure how you buy a duplex like that from a seller to split it. Is that something they would need to agree to or do you split it afterwards?


Yes, it's common. The seller would have to split it, and that might be more than they want to do. The best way to do it would be to figure out a way to buy it (maybe with a partner) and then create a condo regime after closing. Aaron is right that it's even more common in pricier areas, but I've seen lower-priced duplexes do it too. There was one for sale in Pflugerville recently.

 Anyone know a mortgage broker so I can plan what I need to do? I’m trying to figure out what to do for taxes for a mortgage application. If I report up I can show a lot more income but I pay a ton of taxes. If I report down, I probably won’t qualify but I could do a bank statement or 1099 loan and figure out how much I need to save up for the down payment. Trying to figure out the best route for me to do.

I’m W2 and 1099. My 1099 is more than my W2 this year.


i have had self employment income for several years now. This would be the second year in a row I would make 6 figures + in 1099 income.

Quote from @Lynn Wise:

I agree with Elliot!! Many duplexes in Austin have been split into two "condos" that can be bought and sold separately. That's great if your primary goal is getting your foot into an expensive market.


 Is that common here in Austin? Wasn't sure. It would keep my debt-to-income ratio down though. Not sure how you buy a duplex like that from a seller to split it. Is that something they would need to agree to or do you split it afterwards?

Quote from @Aaron Gordy:

@Mark V. Since you are considering the Self directed IRA possibility you might want to make sure that you follow the guidelines. The guidelines are tight. https://www.irs.gov/retirement...


 Thanks --- self directed would be in the future with another home that I wouldn't live in. This one is for one I'm going to live it.

Thank Jordan,

Yea I make a lot more than $80K. I have an 800 credit score though and have credit lines over 20 years old. I'll shot a DM to Tim

Quote from @Jordan Moorhead:

@Mark V. I understand and that might be a good option!

Keep in mind you only get 1 FHA loan and he only get's 1 FHA loan. If you buy it together you both just used your one.

I lived with a roommate when I bought my first duplex and just turned him into my tenant. It worked well for him because he lived for cheap, it worked for me because he paid me.

There's not a wrong way to do it, but personally I look to maximize my conforming loans because the terms are amazing and we only get 10 of them. With FHA you only get one but they're awesome because they're 3.5% down. The next cheapest duplex loans available for most people are conventional 15% down loans. Of course you want to verify it with your lender but the 5% conventional loan isn't available to most people for 2-4 unit purchases.

Thanks Jason. I'll look around. I can do a 5 or even 10% no problem on my end. We should be able to manage to do this without an FHA then he can use and FHA or I can if we decide to get a single family for ourselves later on. I would be okay doing an FHA on this if I have to. He is as well. The payments with roommates isnt' that bad from what we are seeing with these units.