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All Forum Posts by: Mark S.

Mark S. has started 5 posts and replied 38 times.

Quote from @Joe Villeneuve:
Quote from @Mark S.:

Personally I always go with better markets, high demand areas with expected future equity increases. On the other hand, I buy in cash or pay at least 50-60% of what I'm buying and pay it off that year or the next.

So far I have 10 properties free and clear and bring in around 14K in rents per month (168K annually). I'm in talks right now for number 11, which I submitted an offer on. If a deal is reached, I'll be putting down at least 130-140K upfront and paying it off fully next year.

I have a high paying day job. One day I won't - and when that day comes I don't want to have numerous mortgages hanging over my head. That's why I buy the way I buy. It's more of a nest egg when I don't want to work any longer - and a cash-out when the times comes to retire.

Also, my equity has skyrocketed with the crazy market. I mean, I have condos I bought at 140 going now for 250+, townhouses that I got for 250-270, going for 350-450. My equity growth has been as mesmerizing as the cash flow. And I only started buying in mid-2018.

You really like to spend a lot of your own money don't you.
How much of that "mesmerizing equity growth" did you pay for?...and isn't really growth?
...and most of that CF you love is still paying you back for what you spent on the property (all cash and/or cash payoffs from your pocket).  That "cash flow" isn't profit until you recover all of your cash you put in from the cash you get out (cash flow).

Based on your numbers above:
1 - I'm taking the average of the TH and Condos = $195k per property (I'll round that off to $200k...just because I'm sure you had other out of pockets)
2 - $200k properties x 10 = $2M in cash you spent buying them.
3 - $14k/m in rent - T/I (assuming $6k) = about $8k actual CF/month x 12 months = $96k/year (call it $100k)
4 - $2M in cost = 20 years to recover your cost and start making a profit.
       $100k/yr

Your numbers are off and you are POORLY misinformed. My PROFIT is 14K a month.

Last year I made around 170K in rent revenue. Based on your logic, I would make back my investment in 10-12 years. I'm still pretty young, I can wait that long standing on my head, maybe you can't. Patience is a young man's game some say.

Your remind of a guy I knew. I remember starting one of my internet companies in 2003 with almost no money invested. I coded and designed the whole thing. I was basically a kid. A partner I had pulled out in 2005, told me it would take 10-15 years to make our business huge. He left in 2005, I stuck around and kept it going, I sold the business in 2017 for millions and began my investments.

And yes, the equity is REAL. I sold a condo last year, that I purchased in 2018 for 145, for 270 - as is.

Not everyone can buy how I buy because you need the money to do so. My day job allows me the salary to do so. Some invest in stocks, crypto, etc. I invest in real estate and small businesses. 

I have a family to think about. I could go to my grave tomorrow with no worries, because my wife won't have any mortgages, loans or liens to worry about. She can focus on our kids, not scramble for work, and has a full cash flow raining in. That's my main motivation more than anything.

Post: Investing in Las Vegas NV area

Mark S.Posted
  • Las Vegas
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 29

Las Vegas is crazy too. I'm a cash buyer, either all up front or 50-60% down - and it's nuts out there. I currently have 10 free and clear.

I'm trying to get an eleventh. I put in offers and others start bidding over list and push me out, sometimes over list by 15K - and usually investors from Cali.

I was lucky to start buying in cash in 2018. For example, townhouses I bought for 240 and now going for 380, condos I bought for 170 are going for 265. Another townhouse I dropped 270 on is now nearing 430.

It's become near impossible for me to buy straight-up in those higher-end areas, because prices are nuts. And I say nuts because 20% down on most properties are nothing, because you lose money even with top market Vegas rent. Right now I'm looking to drop as much as 140K down on my next one and pay it off in full by next year, but I keep getting outbid. I went 6K over list on the last property I place an offer on and I was still outbid. However, I only target the hotter areas in town, because I only want certain types of tenants and very high rent revenue - plus guaranteed equity increases from year to year - all of which I've obtained on my first 10.

Personally I always go with better markets, high demand areas with expected future equity increases. On the other hand, I buy in cash or pay at least 50-60% of what I'm buying and pay it off that year or the next.

So far I have 10 properties free and clear and bring in around 14K in rents per month (168K annually). I'm in talks right now for number 11, which I submitted an offer on. If a deal is reached, I'll be putting down at least 130-140K upfront and paying it off fully next year.

I have a high paying day job. One day I won't - and when that day comes I don't want to have numerous mortgages hanging over my head. That's why I buy the way I buy. It's more of a nest egg when I don't want to work any longer - and a cash-out when the times comes to retire.

Also, my equity has skyrocketed with the crazy market. I mean, I have condos I bought at 140 going now for 250+, townhouses that I got for 250-270, going for 350-450. My equity growth has been as mesmerizing as the cash flow. And I only started buying in mid-2018.

Quote from @Kathryn Schauer:

@Amanda Thompson

When I was a tenant and my landlord wanted to do this it was always a hassle. The realtor said they’d give me plenty of notice, but often did not. They treated me like I was problem (I wanted to leave for the showings).

As a landlord I now wait until the home is vacant and cleaned before I show it.

If they want to be present just be respectful of their space and time, it is a disruption to their lives. Or wait until they move out.


The same. I wait until the property is vacant, clean, fix anything that needs fixing and then rent. I remember being a renter when I was younger and dealing with showings when the owner put the condo up for sale. It was annoying as hell, because the realtor would sometimes show up without notice. One time I was sitting on the toilet with the door wide open - and this bathroom faced the front door. All of a sudden the front door opens and the realtor walks in with these two elderly women. As we locked eyes, they got scared to death and ran out of the place.

Originally posted by @Greg Scott:

If you have given the tenant everything they asked for and they elected to stay, that says a lot about their motivations to a judge.

It sounds like this business may not be for you.  These sorts of things happen all the time.  Learn to manage these bumps in the road or consider exiting.

I think you are being a little too harsh here.

Sounds like they are new to the business and the last thing you expect is someone threatening to sue you while refusing to leave the property in question, which they claim is causing them harm.

I've never come across this before. Usually most tenants I experience that have a unit issue and want out, they just want their money and want to get out. I've never seen a scenario where someone claims a unit has made them sick, they are offered all of their money back and they refuse to leave the unit making them sick.
Originally posted by @Eric James:

You're on here asking about this like it's a big problem. And you got angry with the tenant on the phone. That's emotionally involved.

If you have a PM I don't know why you'd even talk to the tenant. But if you do, you just tell him we have addressed that problem, and then no longer respond. That's it. That doesn't mean he's going to give up, but you just ignore.

It doesn't matter if he found your phone number. You hang up and ignore/block. You don't have to continue arguing with him.

An example from one of my tenants. I got a message on my business phone that tenants are only supposed to call for emergencies (non emergency maint requests must be submitted in writing). The tenant left several messages saying "I need to talk to you about your mortgage. We got a letter from the bank with your name on it about your mortgage and we need to talk to you now." I ignored, and a few days later mailed a letter asking tenant to please not try to contact me about junk mail she receives with my name on it. I just ignore the drama.

From Friday to Monday, we agreed to all of his demands - void out the remainder of the lease, agree to return deposit, agree to return other fees. On Monday he demands to get everything in writing, we email everything in writing. His side is satisfied. 

Then "1 hour" later, he turns around and says now he's not moving, the smell is gone and says we can't get rid of him as long as he pays his rent pursuant to the lease (this was emailed to us in writing). The guy is nuts, nobody was trying to get rid of him - he was demanding to get out of the lease and sent a 30 day notice to vacate, we agreed to his demands. 

Now we're like "what do we do" - have him there for another 10 months and deal with this madness or try to evict, which could play out for months since he's paying his rent - and the courts are severely backed up right now.

We even sent a "fourth" plumber to take a look at the problem on Monday, because as of Friday he claimed the smell was still there - and then the plumber called to tell me tenant didn't answer his door or the phone, plumber waited around a bit and eventually left. A service call I have to pay for, this time for nothing.

I have one agent telling me to do everything to get rid of him to avoid months of issues and another agent telling me to ride out the lease and then refuse to renew.

Originally posted by @Andrew B.:

Since tenant was told he could leave and doesn’t want too I’m confident he isn’t making it up to leave.

He is either mentally unfit or you have a sewer issue. To be ho eat, I’m quite convinced the issue is real and none of your plumbers have found it. I agree with the comment from earlier saying not to use it for awhile, and tape over the tub drain to see if that helps locate the source.

He did put in a 30 day notice to vacate. His mother talked him out of it, from what she said.

Now the tenant is claiming the smell is back and is likely due to water getting in the walls from the toilet that was fixed and he wants the walls gutted and repaired, because he feels there is mold there.

At this point I told the property manager to honor his 30 day notice to vacate, that his deposit will not be held against him and he can go.

Originally posted by @Lynnette E.:

I have a rental house that had the plumbing drains and source water lines all replaced.  Took the house to the studs to do that.  House has a claw foot bath tub the tenant decided they wanted a second shower instead.  I told them that the bathrooms were designed as they are and will remain that way.  House was built in 1900.  Restoration kept historically accurate items.

Next the tenant said that the tub stank so much that they can not use it.  I sent a plumber out and he could not find anything.  He went out for another issue and he said yep, they were using that tub and the stink is because they put organic oils, fresh flowers and leaves, needles in the tub along with apparently oatmeal.  After the bath they let it set and mold.  He said it stunk badly, but it was because of the filth not cleaning up their special bath.

They still complain and I just tell them to clean the tub real good and smile.  And they still say they cannot use it.  We each have our roles.

Could you tenant be making special baths that will grow mold in the tub/drain?

Now the tenant is claiming the smell is back and is likely due to water getting in the walls from the toilet that was fixed and he wants the walls gutted and repaired, because he feels there is mold there.

At this point I told the property manager to honor his 30 day notice to vacate, that his deposit will not be held against him and he can go.

Originally posted by @John Teachout:

So, inquisitive minds want to know... Was there a plumbing issue and the alleged smell is now gone?

 After I agreed to let him go, and the toilet was re-adjusted with a new wax ring, the smell seems to have miraculously vanished with no further complaints (as of yet).

Vegas has a severe rental issue right now. Not enough inventory. I have on property I'm going to fully remodel in the coming weeks and three people have already asked to be on a waiting list to submit an application to rent it out. It not be a smart move for that tenant to leave at this moment in time. That place will rent in a snap.

Originally posted by @Robert Johnson:

Some tenants are clever and come up with difficult seemingly unsolvable problems.  Smells are subjective to a great extent.  Instead of a plumber the PM or a representative should have responded.  A letter with their findings should have been sent.  If tenant still isn't satisfied then you send notice of the move out consequences.  Feel free to charge for aggravation.   My leases all have nuisance fees chargeable to the tenant. I don't hesitate to bill them for any nuisance contacts. All repairs under $100 are their responsibility.  I would have billed the smell issue  every step of the way.  I had a lady one time who liked to complain.  Her biggest complaint was that the rent was too high.  She was a downright B.  Repair people would call me and tell me they wouldn't return because she was so unbearable.  One guy told me she scolded him the entire time he was there.  I started billing her for the alleged issues. She demanded to know how big the water heater was.  I asked her if she had run out of hot water and she said no.  I then said why do you want to know that? She said she had a right to know that.  She called the city and tried to get them to inspect the house.. I charged her a $75 administration fee for having to respond to that which was just a phone call.  One day she finally moved out after informing me I was greedy for charging rent that was too high.  She lived there for 3 years. Three days later I rented the house out for $500 more a month.  The new tenants are overjoyed to live there. That was 3 years ago and they are still there.   It is 3 doors up from Ocean access.  Perhaps you will get a better tenant once Mr. Sensitivity moves on.  Most areas now have shortages of units available because many landlords have exited the business or won't rent due to bad government policy manifested by the moratoriums. I recently tacked on 20% increases on 3 units where tenants moved on and I get as much up front as possible.  All 3 rented within 24 hours.  One paid a year up front. I've never had it so good.  I would imagine wherever she went the new landlord is enjoying her company. Thanks to her I tightened up my leases even further and am making more money.  Complaints are opportunity.  

Same issue here. He verbally badgered the plumber to that point where he told his company that he doesn't want to come back there. He kept telling the plumber "you will be my witness in court" and the plumber kept saying "stop trying to involve me, I don't want anything to do with this."