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All Forum Posts by: Marina Wong

Marina Wong has started 7 posts and replied 88 times.

Post: Mark Kohler Attorney

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

Hi Tina,

While I have not used Mark, I can tell you, based on what I found online and comparing only to Anderson Business Advisors, they are not expensive. Anderson charges a lot more for creating an LLC, for example. Anderson is very knowledgeable. I plan on contacting Mark's office just to see what they advise. Creating LLC is one thing, the over all strategy is more important. If you don't have the over all strategy, just having LLCs are no good.

Post: Tenant ESA Accommodation

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

I have researched this for my FL property. It is state specific. FL law (Bill S 1084 er, 3/10/2020) specifically states that what the tenant needs to provide is per pet and the tenant needs to show:

1) the tenant needs to have a disability

2) what that specific pet does to help with the disability (ie different pet might perform a different emotional support to the owner). 

Check to see if your state has the second provision, in which case, you can request a per pet evaluation done by a professional (if your state also clarify who can actually provide this kind of certificate). 

In the Florida bill, there is one paragraph that says (line 394 ) "False or fraudulent proof of need for an emotional support animal.—A person who falsifies information or written documentation, or knowingly provides fraudulent information or written documentation, for an emotional support animal under s. 398 760.27, or otherwise knowingly and willfully misrepresents himself or herself, through his or her conduct or through a verbal or written notice, as having a disability or disability related need for an emotional support animal or being otherwise qualified to use an emotional support animal, commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. In addition, within 6 months after a conviction under this section, a person must perform 30 hours of community service for an organization that serves persons with disabilities or for another entity or organization that the court determines is appropriate." See if your state has anything that specifies the penalty for fraudulently claiming ESA. If there is, I would print the Bill out and highlight the paragraph and have any prospective applicant initial that they read the bill on ESA. This should deter fraudulent claims. Again in this world, those who don't do the right thing always hurt those who do.
On the other hand, if the tenant is a responsible pet owner and takes good care of the dogs and the property (so the dogs don't destroy the property and the place doesn't smell bad), then you have a sticky tenant. But then again, if someone is not being honest, you don't know what else they are lying about.


Post: Landlord ESA question

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

@Lora H. Does the attorney give any guidance in terms of rental insurance that need to specifically include the pet's name? I feel the need for that for a dog but it would be overkill if it's a cat. However my management company advise to ask all pet owners to do that. The property I have has some low income families and I feel bad that this gives the tenants extra burdens if they only have cats. But then again I know some people have ESA that are exotic animals and I am not sure where to draw the line. 

I have a rental in FL and one of the tenants got one of those cards mentioned above ONE WEEK after moving in (without telling the management company that she has a dog). I researched the FL law and it basically has the same stipulations as what Lora's attorney said (Bill S 1084 er, 3/10/2020 if any FL landlord wants to look up). Apparently one cannot even refuse when the date of the ESA card is after the move in date. When I checked the website that the tenant used, it shows that I only need to pay $80 or so to get one of the certificates. FL have had a ton of fraud by these pet owners and such a bill meant to give some guidance to what landlord can and cannot ask. One thing the landlord cannot do is ask the tenant to fill out specific forms. I think they also caught on the fact that some landlord wants tenant to jump through hoops.

Post: Wired money to BAM & Open Door Capital

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Peter Albanese:

What was the best place or website to find these syndications? Are you just looking at syndications through the major crowdfunding websites. People probably know about Open Door Capital because of this site, but what about the others?

Look for syndication meetups, listen to podcasts etc. 

Post: Why I'm Passing on Open Door Capital Fund 3

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Valerie Hiscoe:
Originally posted by @Gerald Kieffer Jr:

No skin in the game is probably a deal breaker for me too. 

Looking above I see that Brandon Turner said very clearly he was investing in the fund so I'm not sure if people aren't taking the time to read or what the problem is. And I don't think it's necessary for him to reply to a question about exactly how much he has invested in it. If it becomes a publicly listed company then I guess that will change but until then he has a right to some privacy. Or would you like to publicize your Investments? I'm looking forward to seeing both Brandon and hopefully Jay at the conference. Take care all.


 In fact, most investors want to know how much the GP as a whole (not individual GP) invests. There needs to be an alignment of interest. Most GPs invest about 10-15%. Less than 10% are usually frowned upon. It is a very legitimate question to the GP group as a whole. Some GPs run out of money to fulfill the 10% and would get Co-GP for that reason. 

Post: Open Door Capital Funds

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

Given that we are on BP and so many people know Brandon, I am very surprised that not many people are invested in ODC. While I know Brandon and his team has experience, the going in cap rate is very low for MHP (I was told mid single digit). They also like to acquire MHP with higher vacancy/ vacant pads (not sure what the industry standard is). I also don't like funds for the lack of transparency (no DCF, no rent comp, no sales comp, no sensitivity analysis etc) even if properties are already identified. However, because interest rate has gone up, funds that have a few holding already theoretically should be better off compared to funds that are only starting to acquire now. Of course, when the cap rate eventually increase, that would be a different story.

For those of you who invested in previous funds, do you know what was the going in cap rate for the MHP in your fund?

Post: Short-term rental lock - front door

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

How often do you have to change the battery? TIA

Post: security deposit question

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

I understand this is an old thread but just want to add some details here in case other people will be looking for info in the future. I recently acquired a small multifamily in FL. In the past, I have one account per tenant in MA. But since this is a small multi, it does not make sense to have one per tenant. I opened one account for the entire building in a checking account so I don't have to deal with allocation of interest.

At the time of acquisition, I was still in MA and when I went to BofA , I was told that they cannot open an escrow account for me when I am in MA to withhold escrow money for a property in FL. I had to open the account when I went down to FL.

There is specific language you need to include per Chapter 83 in your notification letter to the tenants. I would have the tenant e-sign but I think the law specifically said the letter needs to be hand delivered or mailed. I hand delivered when I went to the building for showing and I had every tenant sign and took picture/scan the letter afterwards.

Hope this helps. 

Post: Property Manager - Gainesville, FL

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

Nothing against @Daria B. but you should do some research before deciding on a manager.

You can start by going to www.narpm.org and search their directory of managers. These are professionals with additional training and a stricter code of ethics. It's no guarantee but it's a good place to start.

1. Ask how many units they manage and how much experience they have. If it's a larger organization, feel free to inquire about their different staff qualifications.

2. Review their management agreement. Make sure it explicitly explains the process for termination if you are unhappy with their services, but especially if they violate the terms of your agreement.

3. Understand the fees involved and calculate the total cost for an entire year of management so you can compare the different managers. It may sound nice to pay a 5% management fee but the extra fees can add up to be more than the other company that charges 10% with no add-on fees. Fees should be clearly stated, easy to understand, and justifiable. If you ask the manager to justify a fee and he starts hemming and hawing, move on or require them to remove the fee. Don't be afraid to negotiate!

4. Review their lease agreement and addendums. Think of all the things that could go wrong and see if the lease addresses them: unauthorized pets or tenants, early termination, security deposit, lease violations, late rent, eviction, lawn maintenance, parking, etc.

5. Don't just read the lease! Ask the manager to explain their process for dealing with maintenance or problem tenants. If they are professional, they can explain this quickly and easily. If they are VERY professional, they will have their processes in writing as verification that it is enforced equally and fairly by their entire staff.

6. Ask to speak with some of their current owners and current/former tenants. You can also check their reviews online at Google, Facebook, or Yelp. Just remember: most negative reviews are written by problematic tenants. The fact they are complaining online might be an indication the property manager dealt with them properly so be sure to ask the manager for their side of the story.

I hope this basic guide helps. If you have specific questions about property management, I'll be happy to help!


Thank you for the information @Nathan G. Has www.narpm.org since changed? It seems that only members can search the directory. An online membership doesn't give access to the directory.


Post: Tenant wants security deposit refund in cash

Marina WongPosted
  • Investor
  • greater Boston and greater Tampa areas
  • Posts 89
  • Votes 22

Just asked someone who might have first hand experience of not having a bank account and he said if you have a friend or family, you can always endorse the check over to them and they can pay you cash. I guess problem solved and I won't feel bad.