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All Forum Posts by: Mahdi Mike

Mahdi Mike has started 6 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: How to avoid negative cash flow?

Mahdi MikePosted
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Quote from @Matt Solis:

Most deals on the MLS that don't need work and are rent ready are gonna break even at best. That's just the reality of the DFW market right now. You either need to get creative with how you are going to rent the property (rent by the room, short or mid term rental), or you need to buy something that needs work at a discount, then add value to the property and increase rents.

 what I don't understand is what is it too bad if for one or couple of years I have a negative cashflow.

It will be positive in few years and I will end up a property that paid by rent. 

Am I missing something here?

Post: CoC vs Appreciation

Mahdi MikePosted
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Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

@Mahdi Mike  Use 7-8% for your vacancy rate.  I think I posted that before.  That's probably high, but probably impossible to calculate on single family accurately.  But look at the dynamics of the market right now.   Very tough on first time low income borrowers to buy.   So that will increase length of stay.  I say 7-8% for your model if you're trying to plug in a number, because when you have turnover I would expect about a month of vacancy....but depends on so many factors....are you asking the world for rent or fair rent, or slightly under market....what we call Best Price/Best Product.  How restrictive are you going to be on tenants...will you accept pets or not.  Probably 80% have pets, so if you say no to pets, you'll have higher vacancy.   Will you run the properties into the ground, or keep them maintained and well kept?

1% rule is probably not valid any more in most cases these days in the nicer/newer neighborhoods....but that is the target.  Start there on rent.   You might get .7 or .8 vs 1%....if you're at $2000 a month for $300,000 the numbers don't really work unless you are using bigger down payments.  Cash flow is always a function of how much you leverage?  Right.  Then you can increase your cash flow as rents go up and if interest rates go down and go pull out equity.   That's exactly what the big guys are doing right now.  On big multifamily and probably other commercial loans you'd be looking at 60-65% leverage.  3 years down the road, hopefully your rents have gone up and you refinance.

I do see 1% rule...sent out one today for my multi investors....but not a lot of those.   You have to jump on them though, be ready to rock and roll.  Have your cash proof of funds and prequal letter ready to go.  Multiple offers already after 1 day on the market.   We're back in GO mode in DFW.

If lets say for the first 3 years there is a negative cashflow and I have to pay 5k per year from my pocket , why still it may consider not a good a deal. Isn’t like I am buying a house but only pay 5k from my pocket. ?

Post: CoC vs Appreciation

Mahdi MikePosted
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Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

@Mahdi Mike   As many have said in your previous posts, Frisco will be extremely hard to make good investment numbers work.  Lots of factors for that.  Newer homes, popularity for owner/occupants, low rental prices, and many others.

Plano maybe older neighborhoods might work.

You probably need to look outside those two cities....plenty around you that probably will work better.

One way to think about your analysis.....just one factor that might help you.  Back into the numbers.  What is average sales price in Frisco...probably $600,000 now.  So probably not possible, but your target rent would be $6000/month.   So now you need to see what demand is for $6000/month properties.  There are some, but that market at $6000 and above is very thin.....so if there was a market at $6000  at 3-4x rent you need to find a renter that makes 18,000-$24,000/month in income.   So somewhere around $250,000.  What's the median income in Frisco?

Lots of people have lots of different models that work...right?...but over the years, maybe 40 years, what I've seen work best for long term wealth on single family is just lower priced 3bed/2bath/1car or 2 car.....places like Anna...or Gunter.  Buy in the path of progress.   40 years ago Frisco had one flashing red light at Preston and 121....with one lane going each direction....not even red/yellow/green light.  Growth is coming north of you.  Buy there.

You answered it perfectly. 

It seems like rent average is $2000 and but houses are around $250k to 300k.

Is the 1% rule still hold?

Other question, how I know the vacancy rate? 

Post: How to avoid negative cash flow?

Mahdi MikePosted
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What would you do to avoid a negative cash flow?

I m planning to buy my first rental investment property in north TX and need to get a loan.

What are the strategies you would suggest to avoid negative cash flow?

I m thinking of following

1. find a smaller house in the same area, like 2 bed 2 bath around 1200 sq feet?

2. move to area that are suburb like Sherman and has cheaper properties compare to Frisco TX. I can find properties around my budget 350k but do I have a lower vacancy rate?

3. Find older houses. I found a house built in 1979 in Allen TX, I am not looking for rehab and not a guy to fix things even in my own house. So not sure of this 

4. What would you suggest?

Post: CoC vs Appreciation

Mahdi MikePosted
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I just to plan for real estate investing, and already used some of real estate investing calculator for cash on cash calculation.

I’m looking on long term investment and perhaps as a resource for retirement in next 20 years.

My main concern is considering current market and houses I picked in Frisco and Plano TX most of them gave me negative cashflow for 7 years and then start to pick it up. I prefer to pick houses in this area simply because I thought they have better vacancy rate.

My question is , when it will worth to have a negative cash flow?

I would rather to have pay up to $500 per month from my pocket and have a peace of mind with less headache of tenants and maintaince etc

What would you suggest?

Quote from @Rhondalette W.:

@Mahdi Mike all are great.

Not quite sure of that.
i am looking for an agent who tells me very clear
that with your budget this is a good area.
i just learned about CoC and with interest rate high and expensive market I dont think that any of these cities are goood for me
Quote from @Andy Webb:

If I have to stick to that list (and ignore "Other"), then Irving is the winner.  You are more likely to find a good purchase price point there, probably on older inventory that will require some rehab - but that is what we want to create some equity.  And that market rents fast, huge renter pool, working-class demographic for the most part, middle of DFW - great place to be.  Those other locations will all carry a very pricey entry price.

I did not closely read the other posts, but I did see someone mention Haltom City - I like that city, and those around it (e.g. east Tarrant County).


 I guess more than 10 agents replied to this post and almost everyone says something different lol

That makes more confused now now on what to do and who I can rely on. 

Quote from @V.G Jason:

Go Dallas proper, southeast dallas is ghetto but I think if you get some other investors it can change. I'm all about it.


Can i find any property in Frisco in that range? 

Quote from @Joehn B.:
You can get good tenants in a C, D area.  you can also get horrible tenants in an expensive B area.  Its all in the screening.  Choice of area has more to do with your goals.  do you want cash flow or appreciation?  sounds like you are in it for an appreciation play.
My budget is up 370. As long as cashflow is not negative it is fine.
look for long term investment.

Quote from @Lucia Rushton:

@Mahdi Mike too vague of a question. What is your budget ? DM me if you want to discuss.

320 to 400.