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All Forum Posts by: Mackay Oakey

Mackay Oakey has started 1 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: First investment property either GA or Ohio, looking to connect.

Mackay Oakey
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  • Senior Data Analyst at BiggerPockets
  • Idaho Falls, ID
  • Posts 24
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@Samuel Diouf which neighborhoods in Columbus would you suggest looking into?

Post: Hello BiggerPockets! New PRO here

Mackay Oakey
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  • Idaho Falls, ID
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If you never hit the same course twice there's no way to tell if you've gotten worse/stayed the same, right? Haha.

Welcome to BP and best of luck with the MF flipping!

Post: New To BiggerPockets

Mackay Oakey
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  • Senior Data Analyst at BiggerPockets
  • Idaho Falls, ID
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Great to have you here Maurizio! Have you invested in any properties before? Are you interested in doing so in the near future? Nice to meet you.

Post: QOTW: How did you / are you financing your investment properties?

Mackay Oakey
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  • Idaho Falls, ID
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Looking to buy my first property! I'm planning on a conventional loan, but I've been giving the second investment quite a bit of thought and what I'll need to do to find financing for it.

Post: Short term rentals that are not in vacation destinations

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  • Senior Data Analyst at BiggerPockets
  • Idaho Falls, ID
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Hi there Anthony, I'm going to share a few thoughts I had on both of your questions. First of all, in the STR book by Avery Carl (link) Avery talks about how well metro markets do, especially in situations like Covid. It might be helpful to check some data at AirDNA to understand the rates in different parts of the suburban area? My guess would be that people would rarely elect to stay 3.5 hours from the Smoky Mountains though, but I could obviously be wrong. As for the other part, airstreams tend to do well in place of something like a tiny home. I'm not sure if you could have the septic system emptied on site or if you would have to drive the trailer somewhere every week or so to get emptied, but could be a thought. (Link in case you're interested in airstream stuff).

Post: QOTW: If you had an average income, but don't want to househack..

Mackay Oakey
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  • Senior Data Analyst at BiggerPockets
  • Idaho Falls, ID
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My first instinct would be to house hack, but we've already covered that this is an undesirable option for the individual. There's always Fundrise? Especially since $10K is such a small amount of money for so many US regional markets at the moment.

Post: Ready to start investing in real estate

Mackay Oakey
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  • Senior Data Analyst at BiggerPockets
  • Idaho Falls, ID
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Hi Anthony! I’m a newbie as well, so I can only share what I’ve learned so far. I’ve found it very helpful to listen to the BP podcasts and just soak it all in. Don’t worry if the title doesn’t sound too interesting, just start running through them and it’s amazing which episodes end up being the most interesting/helpful. Best of luck!

Post: Should I form an LLC for each rental property I acquire?

Mackay Oakey
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  • Idaho Falls, ID
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Quote from @Scott Smith:

Hey Joseph, great question. I would say that it just depends. I know people who clump a few assets together in LLCs (not recommended, but it's better than having it all in the same LLC!) Other people will keep each asset in it's own LLC [or in a Series LLC, which I made for scaling investors] while there is another group who work with assets that can call for multiple LLCs to adequately operate. The last group will have one LLC for a restaurant building, one LLC for the operations and activities of the restaurant and finally a third LLC that hold all the branding.

So instead of getting list in the weeds, I will just explain asset protection in a general sense and you can decide the best way to move forward. When I sit down with clients, I always discuss (1) their personal assets, and (2) what their current investments portfolio and other business ventures are before discussing (3) their future goals. Each of these variables will dramatically change the advice I give the individual asking me this question. Generally though, I break it down into the "five pillars" of protecting your assets.

The first pillar is avoiding unnecessary and risky activities (don't drink and drive, insurance generally won’t cover your poor decisions) and take good care of your investments(maintain your property, etc) - these simple steps will help you prevent lawsuits before they even occur.

The second pillar is a good insurance policy as that cover the majority of your exposure. However, insurance is limited because it only protects you from one type of liability: accidents/negligence. Insurance doesn’t protect you from any part of the sale or acquisition of a property (e.x. Somebody wanting to sue for you backing out of a bad deal or accusing you of selling them a property with defects like unknown termite damage). Insurance also doesn’t protect you from misunderstandings, especially those made in writing and email. What happens in these misunderstandings is that something goes wrong either in the sale or after, and then they sue you for some statement you made that they “misunderstood”. That lawsuit is a claim for fraud, and that’s what fraud typically is...a misunderstanding and someone being “injured” and wanting to hold the other responsible for it. Insurance never protects you from these kinds of claims and they happen all the time.

The third pillar applies after you have good insurance You need to protect yourself from what insurance doesn't cover by compartmentalizing your assets. Compartmentalization means that if something happens to one property, people suing can't touch you or the other properties. You should use either LLC's (the old and expensive way) or a Series LLC (the new and more cost/time effective way). No matter where you live or where you own assets, I personally recommend the Series LLC to be a great tool for the individual investor who is planning to expand their operation, as it allows for you to scale infinitely for FREE. If you're interested in using an LLC, this article also further explains the advantages of a Series.

The fourth pillar is somewhat similar - you want to separate your operations from your assets. One company owns everything and does nothing (this is your SLLC a/k/a "asset holding company") and a completely separate company handles all of your operations (this is a traditional LLC a/k/a "operating company") For the operating company which serves as your face to the world and through which you do all your business, you establish a Traditional LLC to carry out the operations of your investments. The operating company takes on all of the liability that would otherwise blow back on you including: paying property management, paying contractors, collecting rent, marketing, etc.

The fifth pillar is owning everything anonymously. If people don't know that you have assets, then they are less likely to sue because there's no use in suing people that qualify for food stamps. This anonymity can be accomplished for free by using land trusts to own your companies as well as the assets. Trusts create this anonymity by removing your name from public record. Even if they can see you used to own a property, when properly transferred it will look like it was sold to investors. If they somehow guess you are the owner though, it still doesn't matter because you would not be the owner. The land trust and the LLC are the owner of the asset/real estate, so even in the scenario that potential litigants guess, they would guess wrong.

If you bite the bullet and just establish a Series LLC early on it saves you a lot of money and hassle over the years. But I don't recommend it to everyone, as some smaller investors who are just starting can spend that money on scaling up faster. The best thing you can do is find an experienced attorney who can help you navigate these issues and then choose the strategy that best fits your own investing goals!

Feel free to TAG me or shoot me a colleague request if you want to know more. 


 Thank you for the super detailed and great information! Being new to the community and new to RE investment in general this was very helpful to read in such detail!

Post: The Forums have a new look coming Monday, February 7th!

Mackay Oakey
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  • Senior Data Analyst at BiggerPockets
  • Idaho Falls, ID
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Glad to see some updates to the mobile version! I recently created a shortcut to the forums on my iPhone (great new feature). Thanks for the info and the pictures! In case anyone is curious you can make an 'app' or link to the forums on the home page of your iPhone for the BP forums! https://www.macrumors.com/how-...

Post: New to investing looking forward to learning more.

Mackay Oakey
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  • Senior Data Analyst at BiggerPockets
  • Idaho Falls, ID
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Nice to meet you Victor! I'm also part of the Oregon market, best of luck and maybe I'll see you around!