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All Forum Posts by: Lynn Tran

Lynn Tran has started 2 posts and replied 14 times.

NEED HELP with this 4plex I’m in contract with and the last couple days of inspection period so I’m needing advice ASAP as I don’t have a lawyer for this situation to advise at this time. Sorry for the long post but I figure the details are important!

I am the buyer. The seller has been difficult to get things to me in a timely matter and also discussed having COVID issues during this precess. Closing should be July 21st.

All tenants are on month to month and this one Tenant Unit A is the property manager and on their lease, it says year to year lease agreement. The seller thinks that they can just get the tenant to sign a document that says they will change their lease to month to month but I think that’s not possible. I reside in Louisiana.

Lease Term:

“ 8. The term of the Lease is a periodic tenancy commencing at 12:00 noon on July 1, 2020 and continuing on a year-to-year basis until the Landlord or the Tenant terminates the tenancy.”

I’m wanting to increasing rent by $200/mo for Unit A and I requested a credit towards closing from the seller to offset the loss of income.

From my realtor:

“The sellers broker said that they will not agree to the credit for unit A but it is their opinion that the language of the lease allows them to convert the lease to a month to month lease. They said that they will have the tenant sign a month to month lease immediately if that is your wishes. Please advise. “

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Carlos Gonzalez:

@Lynn Tran

Take it. Mine was a worse fourplex and the numbers were worse than yours but I made it work. That fourplex is a great oportunidad


 Can you give me details on your fourplex? Like the bad numbers and how you made it work? Pros/Cons? Regrets?

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Tyler Lingle:

All deals are, for the most part, thin on the margins right now. But will it get better by waiting? Likely not. Interest rates have no indication of going down soon and neither do home prices. Locking in a cash flowing asset right now is honestly critical. Again, just my two cents. 


I am curious if people are not going to buy houses as quickly with the interest rate rising. Prices of property are definitely high, but I feel like they could go down a little bit in the next year or so since the market was so hot during pandemic. It has to slow down at some point, bringing the numbers down. That being said, I do agree that we shouldn't wait for a deal to happen and getting a cash flowing property is ideal!

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Carl Scott:

@Lynn Tran Go for it!! Margins are thin but you are house hacking. My first house hack margins were thin but after living in the property for 3 years it all worked out and it allowed me to save up for more properties! Also it teaches you how to become a landlord.


 Thanks Carl for your support!

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Lynn Tran various thoughts:

1) You should know the taxes and insurance and not be estimating them at this point.

2) NEVER buy without an inspection. So, get into those other units!

3) Don't be foolish and only use a 1% Vacancy Factor because it's on the internet. FYI - the factor should also account for NONPAYING TENANTS. If you're buying in anything but a Class A area, the factor should be at least 10%.

4) Where are the numbers for utilities? Doubtful all the units have separate electric, gas & water meters. 

Overall, given the low amount you are investing, this appears to be a decent hack to start with as the tenants will be covering at least part of your housing expense. Also, having 3 tenants will provide great experience & learning opportunities.


 When I asked my realtor about the numbers, this is a "round-about" of what he quoted, so its not fixed at this time. Definitely will not buy until my appraisal and inspection! I was able to walk through 2 properties at this time. The inspection is scheduled for next week.

I Googled the area and it is expected at 11% vacancy that I am aware of. Should I buy this property, I plan on keeping all funds made by this property for any future funding and repairs needed.

Each unit has their own separate electric and water, so the tenant pays for their own utilities.

I appreciate your input Drew!

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Alecia Loveless:

@Lynn Tran If the building is in good shape I’d strongly continue to consider this assuming the inspection doesn’t turn up anything too big.

If I were you I’d save the cash flow each month after you get it fully rented once you move out following year 1 instead of taking it as a draw and keep it for future repairs/maintenance whether it’s little things that come up or the roof down the road.

Only having to pay $500 or so your first year to cover the mortgage and expenses isn’t a bad way to get started especially since you’ll only be putting 3.5% down.


 Thank you Alicia for putting it in this way for me. It really puts things in perspective. It isn't a bad deal at all but I was nervous about long term of barely making the ends meet long term when I move out and I do end up with some income, but would eventually need some repairs, vacancy fees, etc long term. Ultimately little to no cash flow in the future. Thinking ahead, I think in the end I would need 5 years to see if possibly rent can rise enough to make it worth it to keep or will need to sell but at least the equity it brings would be wonderful.

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Brian Mackey:

Lynn, where exactly is this fourplex. The area that your describing is on the rougher side. I’m an investor in Baton Rouge as well!  I’ve house hack three times here in BR.  Maybe we can go over some of the things that I’ve looked at when buying. You definitely don’t wanna be somewhere unsafe your first go around and there are some very bad areas of BR. 


Hey Brian! Sounds like you are seasoned in the area. I'd love to go through some things with you in regards to investing in BR if you're available. If you don't mind, I'm shooting you a message soon!

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Lynn Tran you may also want property management at some point in the future, which will be 8-12% of gross rents.

I’m going to property manage myself for a while since it’s just 4 units. I’m doing a lot of research to make sure it goes smoothly!

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Mike D'Arrigo:

@Lynn Tran I haven't reviewed the numbers so I can't comment on it from a returns stand point. My biggest concern would be the area. I'm always somewhat skeptical of high crime areas that are "shifting into a working class spot". What evidence is there that that is actually happening other than a new grocery store? Grocery stores by themselves are not going to transform a neighborhood, especially if they are just small mom and pop stores. If you said that there is a Whole Foods, Starbucks and major retail chains going in, I might feel different but these kinds of businesses do not usually lead redevelopment. What other investment is going in to the area that is going to turn an area known to be dangerous in to a working class neighborhood? What is real estate doing in the immediate area? Is it appreciating at least as fast or faster than the surrounding area? What is the average days on market compared to the area? Are owner occupants buying there or is it predominantly rental? Buying in an area that is gentrifying can pay off big but can be risky. Make sure you really know what is going on in the area.


 The area is within 10 minutes from a large university and in a 1-2 mile radius is the rough neighborhood. That being said, another very success shopping center was built within these ranges and an Ideal Market right where it meets the main store. This area has many areas of land that is in development for houses and some retail. Driving through to the 4unit in the neighborhood and there’s a sum of Hispanic and African American individuals being out. Not threatening but fairly in piece. My realtor has discussed seeing the changes in the area becoming less dangerous with time. I’m not getting this property, betting on it to appreciate quickly considering everything but it would definitely be a bonus! Predominately rental I believe.

Post: First Investment Deal Help: 4 Plex

Lynn TranPosted
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Quote from @Edgard Leite:

Lynn,

I invest in Baton Rouge as well and I have no problem sharing my criteria/calculations with you.

Feel free to send me a message.


 Wow that’s awesome! I would love any kind of help. The more I learn, the more I have a more clearer head. I’ll try to message you tomorrow to get some insight from you!