Possibly that is the case, but I am also defining carrying costs as you describe above and I am getting the carrying cost number from what is calculated for carrying costs in the BRRR calculator of Bigger Pockets. Of most concern is the cost of the mortgage until I would be able to refi. I've run the numbers several times on a $480K hard money loan at 12%; with a 13 month period required to hold the initial hard money loan, I do not see how beginning investors (with not much cash to start out with) can carry that HM loan until the refinancing: I keep coming up with $16,795.75 in carrying costs for the estimated 3 mo rehab period in the BRRRR calculator. Secondly, during the duration of the HM loan of 10 months, the carrying costs exceed income by $2k/mo. I haven't seen this addressed in the webinars I've watched; in fact, the webinars state that not much money is needed to get started using the BRRRR method. So, I'm reaching out here to experienced investors. Although the webinars I've watched used a 12% HM rate, perhaps that is just too high? In looking for HM lenders, some do start at lower rates, but I used 12% to be conservative. Your thoughts are welcomed on what I may be miscalculating/missing in these calculations. Thank you in advance.