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All Forum Posts by: Lutfiya Mosley

Lutfiya Mosley has started 1 posts and replied 21 times.

Quote from @Andrew Baer:

If it's too good to be true, it usually is. One of these days he will hustle the wrong individual and he will find himself in a permanent horizontal position. I have a particular antipathy towards scammers. States and the Feds never prosecute them enough. One of these days he is going to make the evening news when he scams the wrong guy. 


 Or lady

Quote from @Andrew Baer:

If it's too good to be true, it usually is. One of these days he will hustle the wrong individual and he will find himself in a permanent horizontal position. I have a particular antipathy towards scammers. States and the Feds never prosecute them enough. One of these days he is going to make the evening news when he scams the wrong guy. 


Quote from @Jillian Sidoti:

Wow. Tyler, I am so sorry you had to come on here and put this much effort into a defense. I am so glad you did, however. Thank you so much for sharing. There are obviously two sides to every story!

Were you his SEC attorney at the time because Zach is being nice here in this review. Nobody makes these kinds of stories up. Since this time this company has only done worse to their students and investors. 
Quote from @Sterling Boyns:

@Patrick Fanning is this true? Tyler originally came from Dave's program? I took both MF workshops this year (Tyler's in the spring and Dave's today) and the similarities were uncanny. If what you said is correct, it definitely makes sense now (how he teaches and does his training - no experience as a personal student of his).

It is true and just about every sales person and sponsor they promote is from RE Mentor. I’d stay away from all of the people around the Multifamily Mindset they are like vultures preying on students to use them for free labor and family and friends money. The students who have gotten into deals with most of them are horror stories.
Quote from @Mike Reynolds:

@Tyler Deveraux I dont know the whole story, but coming on here and explaining your side goes a long way towards your credibility. 

No it doesn’t, it’s just how he played the game back then. Since this time much more has come to the surface. They have done all the things Zach mentioned plus more. I have hundreds of comments on my Facebook page from people who paid for this what I would call a scam and it is awful. They got worse over the years. I did my own review on bigger pockets. I partners with these two owners on a deal that just foreclosed recently. This company should not be going anymore they have completely wrecked so many people financially using their students and pawns for their own greed.
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Lutfiya Mosley:

Ciel,

Thank you for sharing. To clarify for those reading the company is Prime Corporate Services out of Utah. The Multifamily Mindset also sell a website service called Engager AI to new students as well. Over the four years there’s been many complaints about Prime Corporate Services. It has cost many people including myself a lot of unnecessary money and still is because you deal with the tax portion of opening unnecessary LLCs recommended by supposed professionals. I question if they get kick backs or actually hold ownership in this company. Many education programs that could be scams promote junk services and the quality of all they sell or promote is definitely junk. 
Everyone is suffering because of the damage this company has created and continues to especially those who invested in properties. I forgot to mention another sales tactic is to tell people at the three day class you can charge your investors the 40k tuition. The salesperson says, put it in the closing statement or underwriting template somewhere. Not true. 


there ya go another Utah based fullfilment and education company.  utah is ground zero for these enterprises.

 Yes Utah is white collar crime, scam, fraud of the US I have learned. Their attorney general website is like NO other in the United States when you have had to go look at multiple states like I have. There are several "real estate programs" out of their that the FTC made return millions to people.

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

One more reason why people should stop looking for the easy path to building wealth.

Increase earnings, reduce expenses, save, and invest. You don't need partners, coaches, fast acceleration, etc. Take your time, be wise, and time will reward you.


 I was actually on that path with duplexes and had been a realtor. The money I had was from my first investment which myself and kids did all the grunt work. Unless people attend these types events I don't think they understand how influencial these people are. I altered the course I was on not for an easy route because I did form a company and was doing the business very well for a while. I unfortunately had gotten in a deal with the owners of the program, a few things later things started to come to light because of another situation. I saw people work very hard, they just didn't know what was told them at the sales event wasn't true and they did not have the tools to succeed because it wasn't the companies intention from my experience. I saw many highly successful hard working people lose money to them as well as people who couldn't afford it.

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

This ma be a front for a cult. Convince me otherwise.


 I 100% agree. After dealing with this situation for quite some time I started studying scams, frauds then human behavior then cults. It is amazing the connections between all these things. The leaders of these must gain unearned trust and authority very quickly. If you read the many comments on my Facebook page, Tyler Deveraux insulted people very harshly once they realized what they paid for wasn't what they got. Saying things to young ladies in their early 20's like, you have an f'ed up mindset. He said to many students and I read texts he wrote to one guy on a video, you have no grit, no business sense and on. It is a common factor for these types to plant in people's head they are responsible for their success so when they come back after realizing the no value you can blame it on them. Definately cult like.

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

This ma be a front for a cult. Convince me otherwise.


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Quote from @Jordan Townes:

so why are you people that already sunk 40k into this not paying a little more a getting a  lawyer?


 Looks like they are all not getting along:



Orange County Clerk of Courts Records Search (myorangeclerk.com)


 Lurid. Can't imagine being in business with characters like this. 


 It has been God awful for so many people. It is sad how far the reach of distruction these types of investments can have. LP's and tenants often pay a high price, as well as GP's who don't know people's true character until it is too late. The latest on this situation for me is that the property foreclosed with nobody notifying me and I am on the loan. The lender even quit communicating with me, which I did not think was legal. A few days ago I found out about this article so it looks like a tenant is suing the property management we used as the my partners. https://www.kxxv.com/news/local-news/in-your-neighborhood/mc...