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All Forum Posts by: Lutfiya Mosley

Lutfiya Mosley has started 1 posts and replied 16 times.

Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Lutfiya Mosley:

Ciel,

Thank you for sharing. To clarify for those reading the company is Prime Corporate Services out of Utah. The Multifamily Mindset also sell a website service called Engager AI to new students as well. Over the four years there’s been many complaints about Prime Corporate Services. It has cost many people including myself a lot of unnecessary money and still is because you deal with the tax portion of opening unnecessary LLCs recommended by supposed professionals. I question if they get kick backs or actually hold ownership in this company. Many education programs that could be scams promote junk services and the quality of all they sell or promote is definitely junk. 
Everyone is suffering because of the damage this company has created and continues to especially those who invested in properties. I forgot to mention another sales tactic is to tell people at the three day class you can charge your investors the 40k tuition. The salesperson says, put it in the closing statement or underwriting template somewhere. Not true. 


there ya go another Utah based fullfilment and education company.  utah is ground zero for these enterprises.

 Yes Utah is white collar crime, scam, fraud of the US I have learned. Their attorney general website is like NO other in the United States when you have had to go look at multiple states like I have. There are several "real estate programs" out of their that the FTC made return millions to people.

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

One more reason why people should stop looking for the easy path to building wealth.

Increase earnings, reduce expenses, save, and invest. You don't need partners, coaches, fast acceleration, etc. Take your time, be wise, and time will reward you.


 I was actually on that path with duplexes and had been a realtor. The money I had was from my first investment which myself and kids did all the grunt work. Unless people attend these types events I don't think they understand how influencial these people are. I altered the course I was on not for an easy route because I did form a company and was doing the business very well for a while. I unfortunately had gotten in a deal with the owners of the program, a few things later things started to come to light because of another situation. I saw people work very hard, they just didn't know what was told them at the sales event wasn't true and they did not have the tools to succeed because it wasn't the companies intention from my experience. I saw many highly successful hard working people lose money to them as well as people who couldn't afford it.

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

This ma be a front for a cult. Convince me otherwise.


 I 100% agree. After dealing with this situation for quite some time I started studying scams, frauds then human behavior then cults. It is amazing the connections between all these things. The leaders of these must gain unearned trust and authority very quickly. If you read the many comments on my Facebook page, Tyler Deveraux insulted people very harshly once they realized what they paid for wasn't what they got. Saying things to young ladies in their early 20's like, you have an f'ed up mindset. He said to many students and I read texts he wrote to one guy on a video, you have no grit, no business sense and on. It is a common factor for these types to plant in people's head they are responsible for their success so when they come back after realizing the no value you can blame it on them. Definately cult like.

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

This ma be a front for a cult. Convince me otherwise.


Quote from @Adam Michael Andrews:
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Jordan Townes:

so why are you people that already sunk 40k into this not paying a little more a getting a  lawyer?


 Looks like they are all not getting along:



Orange County Clerk of Courts Records Search (myorangeclerk.com)


 Lurid. Can't imagine being in business with characters like this. 


 It has been God awful for so many people. It is sad how far the reach of distruction these types of investments can have. LP's and tenants often pay a high price, as well as GP's who don't know people's true character until it is too late. The latest on this situation for me is that the property foreclosed with nobody notifying me and I am on the loan. The lender even quit communicating with me, which I did not think was legal. A few days ago I found out about this article so it looks like a tenant is suing the property management we used as the my partners. https://www.kxxv.com/news/local-news/in-your-neighborhood/mc...

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

This ma be a front for a cult. Convince me otherwise.


Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Lutfiya Mosley:

Ciel,

Thank you for sharing. To clarify for those reading the company is Prime Corporate Services out of Utah. The Multifamily Mindset also sell a website service called Engager AI to new students as well. Over the four years there’s been many complaints about Prime Corporate Services. It has cost many people including myself a lot of unnecessary money and still is because you deal with the tax portion of opening unnecessary LLCs recommended by supposed professionals. I question if they get kick backs or actually hold ownership in this company. Many education programs that could be scams promote junk services and the quality of all they sell or promote is definitely junk. 
Everyone is suffering because of the damage this company has created and continues to especially those who invested in properties. I forgot to mention another sales tactic is to tell people at the three day class you can charge your investors the 40k tuition. The salesperson says, put it in the closing statement or underwriting template somewhere. Not true. 


there ya go another Utah based fullfilment and education company.  utah is ground zero for these enterprises.

I am extremely sad and not at all surprised to hear this. On the investment side there are quite a few elderly people in very bad circumstances. One lady has no money left and her husband went into hospice. All we can do is speak up because this needs to end so I appreciate you participating in standing up for what is right. 

Quote from @Pokie Maynard:

There should be a class action law suit again multifamily mindset that has ripped off so many people and tore their lives apart in a horrible way. I became a member two years ago, striking zero deals. Multifamily mindset has recruited students from all walks of life such as teachers, medical doctors, veterans, real estate agents, business men, and I was included into a group (multifamily mindset encourages students to form groups) and one of them is a veteran who is divorced, has kids to support, not employed during that time, got a loan of $40,000 for the tuition. After enough try, he made nothing happen. He was terribly miserable, and you can tell from his Facebook postings he sounds desperate, you know the multifamily mindset Facebook group. Later on people heard him saying that he wanted to kill himself due to all the failed deals. You put all efforts and finally the outcome is zero. 

One of their so called instructors from one of the training sessions asks the students to go to the five star hotels, or go play golf, or go horse riding, or go hang out at the high end night clubs for the sake of fund raising. I called them horror jokes. Who will give the hard earned money to strangers? 

Let's do a math: one student x $40,000, then 1000 students x $40,000....... Seriously how many students that have been tricked into their training program? It's worse than the Trump University.