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All Forum Posts by: Luke Rusten

Luke Rusten has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Quote from @Brandon Croucier:
Quote from @Luke Rusten:
Quote from @Brandon Croucier:

I wouldn't be overpaying for something with good seller financing.

Rates are coming down in the next 24 months, you can just buy something else with the intention to refi down.


 Thank you for the input. Would you consider it if the rates were as low as 2%? That is where I am getting hung up. At that percentage I end up paying significantly less in interest over the length of the loan, but where I get into issues is if I ever want to/need to sell any of the properties before they can appreciate in value to be worth the list price. Sorry, I should have provided that detail in the original post. 


 I mean how much are you overpaying for that rate.

Whats the actual value, what would be the purchase price?

What are the rents?


Thank you for your replies - much appreciated. To be clear I am not really looking for someone to analyze the deal for me, but more-so looking to see if I should be thinking about anything in particular that I haven't been.


Since you asked - I believe I'd be paying approximately 20% +/- above market value. The rents are on the lower side, but I am also not looking to raise them significantly as the best thing about these properties IMO are the very long-term tenants.

When I do the math, I'd have a lower monthly payment and pay less interest over time even at that premium price versus a lower price and lower rates in the next year or so, but I likely wouldn't be able to sell any of the properties at that value for quite a while.

Is there anything I should be thinking about that I am not? Is this a deal most investors would walk away from regardless of the rates/terms because of the premium? 

Quote from @Brandon Croucier:

I wouldn't be overpaying for something with good seller financing.

Rates are coming down in the next 24 months, you can just buy something else with the intention to refi down.


 Thank you for the input. Would you consider it if the rates were as low as 2%? That is where I am getting hung up. At that percentage I end up paying significantly less in interest over the length of the loan, but where I get into issues is if I ever want to/need to sell any of the properties before they can appreciate in value to be worth the list price. Sorry, I should have provided that detail in the original post. 

Hello friends,

I found a seller financed listing where the seller is asking for a significant premium on multiple homes, but they are open to low interest rates and 40 year terms. These homes have long term tenants and will cash flow albeit slightly under $100 per unit if I don't raise rents. My calculations are based on 2 sets of numbers - the numbers the seller has provided, and my own calculations accounting for 5% for vacancy, 5% for repair, 5% for capex, 10% for property management and actual costs for property tax/insurance.

I am trying to decide if this deal is worth pursuing or if I should walk away due to the premium on the homes. I don't love the idea of essentially being locked into holding them for a long time because it may take many years for them to appreciate enough to meet that premium, but I do like the idea of cash flow, low interest, and longer terms. I do intend on holding them for a long time, but again this limits my flexibility in the short-to-medium term.

Does anyone have any thoughts/suggestions for me? This is my first deal of this kind and I want to make sure I am considering everything.

Thanks in advance!