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All Forum Posts by: Louisa Davis

Louisa Davis has started 9 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: Going to Investor Meetups

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Evan Polaski:

@Louisa Davis, I would say I am one of the few on these forums that has made a true career out of real estate.  So, if you are talking about truly early journey, it was working for other people's companies who were where I wanted to be.  I started my first job in 2007, working for a company that, at the time, had a portfolio worth about $1.5bn of assets, and was founded in 1992.  

My coworkers were my "meetup". One of my friends there, back in 2013, when I left, owned about 80 units, mostly SFR, and is not north of 240. Another had a dozen rentals, and a third had about 20 units. But also, the founders of that company had built a multi-billion dollar real estate company, and thankfully the whole company was pretty open. I had access to co-founders, CEO, COO, CFO, CIO, etc.

But, it all depends on what your goals are. I think meetups and even professional networking events are great for knowledge and general connections.  They have not been terribly lucrative for sourcing capital from passive investors.  Capital raising is a long game, typically.  Start with your friends and family and co-workers.  Do well by them and ask for referrals.  Start building relationships with the referrals, and repeat.  I have had investors come in that I met at networking events, but they are NOT real estate meetups or networking.  They are hobby or lifestyle events.


 This is great advice. It mirrors my success in my realtor business: My first clients were all friends, and from there my business grew to referrals, and today it's 95% referrals and repeat clients. Slow and steady!

Post: Going to Investor Meetups

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Abel Curiel:
Quote from @Louisa Davis:
Quote from @Abel Curiel:
Quote from @Louisa Davis:

When you go to real estate investor meetups, what are you looking to get out of them?

And how has that changed with your experience level?


Hey Louisa!

At every meetup, I look for new contacts. The best contacts are those who also value growing their networks and who are clear on their business needs (e.g., funding, partnerships, access to deals, vendor recommendations, etc.). These are the best contacts, in my opinion, because I can find ways to add value to them.

As my experience level changes, I keep an eye/ear out for specific types of contacts. 

For example, I've recently encountered more potential 203K/renovation loan deals, which has led me to actively seek out HUD Consultant contacts. Other times, I've specifically gone to events looking for GCs and handymen who also invest or want to begin.


 Thank you. How do you use your time effectively to make sure you're drawing out each contact's specific skill set and approach? Instead of spending all your time on small talk?


 Great question... I'm a talker so I've definitely ended up in conversations longer than I needed to.

Sometimes, its not a bad thing. When you know you've made a new contact with good synergy, its not the worst thing to have a lengthy convo and limit time for more introductions.

What I do to bypass small talk is ask - "how did you hear of this event?" OR "what made you come to this event" instead of asking "what do you do?" or "hey, I'm Abel... hows it going?..how are you?..."

I find that asking those questions (in bold), I get higher quality/deeper answers. People still mention what they do or how they're involved in RE... BUT they go into what they're currently working on, what/who they're seeking at this event, and I get a good sense of where they're at along their journey.

One of the best books I read on the subject of effective networking/relationship building was Never Eat Alone by Keith Ferrazi

The book 'How to win friends and influence people' is also very good and more popular.


 Thanks for these tips - great lines and I will definitely add those to my reading list!

Post: Going to Investor Meetups

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Evan Polaski:

@Louisa Davis

Generally, I find meetups are powerful for relative new comers to real estate.  So if you are looking to meet agents, wholesalers, maybe a couple lenders, or some investors that have done a few flips or own a couple SFRs, you will find many people there.

This isn't to say they are bad, but in the several dozens I have attended, they have not been worth my time, professionally or personally.  There are certainly some good people there, who are fun to talk with for the several hours of the meetup.

When I attend professional networking events, they tend to be with others that are in the commercial level of experience.  Think people involved in $10+mm deals, whether they be brokers, owner/operators, engineers, finance professionals, etc.

And when I attend networking events around personal interests, they are more hobby or lifestyle-based.


 I can certainly see that. When you were earlier in your investing journey, how did you find those who would help you level up and grow? I have been involved in a few $10m deals, and I want to do more.

Post: Going to Investor Meetups

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Abel Curiel:
Quote from @Louisa Davis:

When you go to real estate investor meetups, what are you looking to get out of them?

And how has that changed with your experience level?


Hey Louisa!

At every meetup, I look for new contacts. The best contacts are those who also value growing their networks and who are clear on their business needs (e.g., funding, partnerships, access to deals, vendor recommendations, etc.). These are the best contacts, in my opinion, because I can find ways to add value to them.

As my experience level changes, I keep an eye/ear out for specific types of contacts. 

For example, I've recently encountered more potential 203K/renovation loan deals, which has led me to actively seek out HUD Consultant contacts. Other times, I've specifically gone to events looking for GCs and handymen who also invest or want to begin.


 Thank you. How do you use your time effectively to make sure you're drawing out each contact's specific skill set and approach? Instead of spending all your time on small talk?

Post: Going to Investor Meetups

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28

When you go to real estate investor meetups, what are you looking to get out of them?

And how has that changed with your experience level?

Post: NAR Lawsuit and Questions

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Sam McCormack:

Out of curiosity, how many people are familiar with the NAR Lawsuit and what will come of it? What do you take of it?

This is all just curiosity, from a realtor in an area with a lot of investors. Let me know!


In my experience as a realtor, I haven't had a problem yet even though this has been circulating in the news for several months already. The lawsuit settlement does more to *try* to increase transparency than it does to changes what a seller can or can't pay to the buyer's broker. I say try because it also reduces transparency: After the changes, I won't be able to tell my buyer client if a given seller is going to pay the commission on their behalf just by looking at the MLS anymore. It introduces more steps and time to get that information, because you have to go directly from each listing agent, which is problematic is we're trying to work fast to submit an offer within a span of a few hours.

The bigger hurdle for most of the country is getting buyers to sign an exclusive representation agreement to work with a buyer's agent. That's not a problem in the DC area, as we've been using these for 20 years already and are very used to it. They basically state: "BUYER is responsible for making sure their broker gets paid X amount at closing. In most cases the seller pays on their behalf, but in the event they don't, the buyer is obligated to." 

Since buyer representation was created in the '90s, the buyer side commissions have essentially been "rolled into" the sales price most of the time. Because of the change in public sentiment after the NAR settlement, this will probably be the case less often going forward. It will become another data point and expense buyers need to consider when planning their offer in each case.

Post: Should I buy an investment property or personal residence first?

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Angie Guifarro:

I'm based in Miami, FL and currently rent, though I've been saving up to purchase a home. Home prices are high here so I'm really leaning towards investing out of state or in a different part of Florida to create cash flow vs. buying a personal residence and starting my savings over from scratch to invest.

Don't get me wrong, I really want to buy a place of my own that I can live in but the math is making a bit more sense to me if I invest first. At least that way I can use some of the cash flow to save for a personal residence.

Any advice/perspectives on how I should approach this?


 Hi Angie, great question and one to which there's no single answer! As a general rule, it's important for anyone to own their residence. It's a #1 indicator of long-term financial stability and net worth. Taxes and insurance do go up over time, but the bulk of your monthly payment will stay the same even with high inflation. If you're renting, then you're subject to that monthly turbulence, and your cash flow from rentals might not keep up to cover that difference. 

That being said, I do know some people who invested in real estate before buying their own primary residence and they are successful! I think they are the exception, though, rather than the rule.

Post: Newbie Investor - Lets Connect!

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @Kyle Hunihan:

Hello! My name is Kyle Hunihan. I currently work for the US Coast Guard and will be moving to the Philadelphia area in June 2024 with my fiancee. I have been listening to the BiggerPockets podcast and reading their books for the last couple of years and I am eager to start my journey in the world of real estate investing. Whether you're a seasoned investor, agent, or someone just as passionate as I am, I would love to learn from your experience and build a meaningful relationship! 


Hi Kyle! Welcome to BP and thank you for your service. I love meeting others investing real estate, both those a few steps ahead of me and those a few steps behind me. Would love to connect. 

I've built a small network in Philadelphia, and even made an offer on an apartment building there! It didn't move forward, but I like the market and it's within driving distance from me in the DC area. 

Post: Overleveraged Advice Please Help

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28
Quote from @James Hamling:
Quote from @Melanie P.:
Quote from @Nathan Frost:
Quote from @Louisa Davis:
Quote from @Nathan Frost:
Quote from @Stuart Udis:

@Nathan FrostLet me pose this question to you: What is the upside to continuing to "grind" as you describe it? From what I've gathered the properties will not begin to cash flow significantly better, you are in a market that cannot easily absorb unexpected capital expenditures (greater risk to you in the future) and the principal paydown is pretty meaningless for a while. If you agree with this, aren't you better off selling, recapitalizing yourself and focusing on better opportunities armed with the relationships and knowledge you now possess?  I sense you have an emotional attachment to this portfolio because it likely took time and effort to assemble and this keeps you holding on. 


 Yes, my first ever LTR is in the portfolio that I personally rehabbed myself.  But honestly I am over the personal attachment now that I am older and wiser.  I rather sleep comfortable at night than worry about the next 7k payment / vacancy.  I definitely am smarter now and have way better knowledge.  And yes, you are correct.  These properties will pretty much rent at the same price for the next 5-10 years unless I updated a few of the bathrooms and AC units.  I might break even but I think it is smart to sell 3-4 of them and move on.  The last 2-3 I have acquired in my portfolio are my best cash flowing properties because I have learned over the years how to calculate a deal better than I did when I started with these.


 It sounds like you have answered your own question. It makes sense to sell the worst performers, bulk up your reserves for the remaining properties, and then use your returned capital for something else. 

I started walking down the same road - buying smaller residential properties by myself. I learned the same thing: A lot of hassle for a little bit of profit. I'm also liquidating that (smaller) portfolio and have pivoted to larger properties.

Happy to talk 1:1 if you'd like.

Would love to.  Message me.

 Nathan, Please BEWARE this lady is promoting a real estate investment scheme known as a syndication. These syndications have been collapsing on a daily basis over the last couple of years. Check out the Syndication and Multi Family forums for stories of paused distributions, people losing 93% of their principal invested in deals gone sour. They promise returns "up to" 20% per annum. If you look at what you've done yourself you've probably done the same or better. You receive no title to real estate in these transactions and cannot liquidate them until the promoter decides to sell the underlying asset.

@Louisa Davis, If you want to engage people in an investment pitch it's rather unprofessional to do so under the guise of half-truths and misrepresentations. Playing on a poster's stated concerns to set up a pitch to divorce them of their savings is reprehensible behavior!

When you write you've "pivoted" to larger properties what does that mean? You've put your own money into these deals or earned a commission for placing other people's money in them? 

Let's start with your bio on the Rise Equity site where you extoll the talents of "your team" (taking credit for the work of Katie Loughney's team on which you work) and your own accomplishments as a real estate salesperson. The bio is all about your success as a residential REALTOR. Yet at the bottom of the page and every page your site says "Not affiliated with any real estate broker." Why not? If you're going to help someone invest in real estate cowboy up and put your license on the line to back your representations. You list gross sales of $150M. I seriously doubt the number is more than a third of that, but I'll take you at your word and impute maximum gross commissions to date of $3,750,000. Your bio claims that you're invested in $13,000,000 of multi-family assets. Care to provide any addresses to back this up? How about explaining your source of funds for the other $10,000,000 plus living expenses over the last 8 years?

Your representation to Nathan that single family real estate investments tend to break even after considering the costs of improvements would be sad news to the government employees you help find housing in your day job. Further, it's a grossly inaccurate representation of what has happened over the last 10 years in your market or even the 8 years since you got your fresh start in real estate. In NoVA/DC there has been appreciation of 300-500% over that time period. 

Last and most important is your complete and total lack of any experience which would make anyone contact you about a large multifamily asset. Has Rise ever completed a single transaction including principal and profit return to the LPs? Of course not! Have you ever even completed a successful raise in Rise Equity's name? You've demonstrated above your willingness to say whatever you think will motivate someone to send you money. Telling a pack of lies to give potential investors the confidence to pull the trigger isn't just morally wrong, it's a crime. Will honesty make finding someone gullible enough to send Rise money more difficult? Probably. But at least you'll be authentic and look less like a clown aspiring to one day be a thief. 


 Someone got OWNED!!!!....

To any readers who come across this, please note that *I do not know this person and have never interacted with her!*

This was a personal attack, totally uncalled for, based on wildly inaccurate assumptions. To anyone who's wondering: Yes I'm still an active realtor as my day job, yes I've owned rental properties by myself, and yes I now focus on investing in larger properties with partners! I've found larger rental properties to be much more profitable personally. I don't make any claims about asset classes or strategies as a whole, but I am always happy to share my experiences.

I love to meet others investing in real estate to see what we can learn from each other. Feel free to reach out to me 1:1!

Post: Overleveraged Advice Please Help

Louisa DavisPosted
  • Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 28

Will do