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All Forum Posts by: Loree Sarokas

Loree Sarokas has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Tenants were all college students with co-signers from out of State. They were OK tenants during the course, some hiccups and OBVIOUS smoking marijuana in the house with a VERY clear no smoking policy. Tenants set the inspection time, I showed up and the house was a complete disaster, by that I mean... burn holes in carpets, coke can or something blew up on the wall and floor, handprints in basically mud, all throughout the house on the walls, used cat litter dumped in the yard.. the list goes on. I was upfront with them verbally that the home was not cleaned as required in the lease and that there is a lasting odor of smoke in the home as well as irreparable carpet damage in all 3 bedrooms. Yes I have photos of pre move in as well as move in condition report as well as a signed lease for expectations (very detailed). Damage/Repairs total 4900.00 with 2 separate licensed contractors estimates. None of the tenants objected to my observations during the walk through. They asked for another day to clean the house but didn't want to pro rate rent another day. They also had the water shut off a day prior to the end of the lease and said that was the reason they couldn't "clean". I've sent my Certified notification to 2 of the 4 tenants as they only gave me info for 2. One of the tenants received the mail. The other, has yet to pick it up from the post office since they are not home to receive it or have it re-delivered. My biggest question is, if they want to object... Florida Law states they have 15 days from time of receipt of the landlords notice to withhold. What if one of the two does not pick up their letter? Is it considered "received" because one person got it? What is the best way to go about small claims court? Should I inform the co-signers first via email and give them an opportunity? Grateful for any insight/suggestions. 

Jennifer T., 

You make some great points regarding the fees. We definitely conduct inspections (and have noted the current tenant is violating the lease by having another person living in the home, not on the lease). 

Apologies in advance for the long thread below, just hope it helps someone.

In my particular situation, I've come to the conclusion, based on legislation I've read (I added some material below for those that want to read it but not go looking for it), that we won't return the "pet deposit". As for the pet rent, a tenant is required to start dialog with a landlord asking for a "reasonable accommodation", a letter stating the individual has a disability is not considered a request in itself. So, because both dogs are already allowed on the property (which is all the physicians letter states and that both dogs are ESAs), there is not a nexus to being reasonably accommodated financially. The tenant has already signed a lease, and has not asked we amend the pet rent. The letter does not state the tenant has encountered a financial loss due to the disability per the physicians letter. I'm taking a risk for the remainder of this lease but will not charge it if the tenant renews. I think the laws are ambiguous and could sway either way. 

After my post I continued some research. Turns out, the state of Florida has NO legislation on "Emotional Support Animals", only "service animals". I read through the ADA, FHAct, HUD and Rehabilitation act as well as reached out to the Department of Justice and numerous local attourneys looking for answers. an "Emotional Support Animal", is not defined in any of those governing documents. It is mentioned but not from a definition perspective, only "Service animal" and "assistance animal". I think that leaves the law open to interpretation, especially when a practitioner cites the documents I mentioned, however fails to use the terminology within those documents.

To be clear, we don't have any issues with pets/support animals. I do think that the system is being abused and that property owners should have some rights. Of note, there are no breed restrictions to service animals or assistance animals and also  an individual can have more than one. 

I was happy to read that a Florida Senator just entered Senate Bill 1128 into the senate to address the abuse of emotional support animals. This would be the first of its kind in the state. I don't like that they use the term "Emotional Support Animal", and think the bill should use terminology from the health care system so that it is clear to tenants and to landlords. But its purpose is to halt one time transactions for "support animals" and instead require an individual to be under a physicians care vice a transactional fee. Its almost impossible to prove either way, but could be a deterrent for some.  Its a good read, still leaves lots of questions. I've reached out to the senator with a few pointed questions for clarification but support. 

Either way, I think that individuals with actual disabilities should be protected from those abusing a one time transactional letter from a physician, and property owners should also have rights and be protected, regardless of a tenant just being required to pay for damages. As many of you know taking a tenant to small claims court can be more costly than just fixing an issue yourself but that adds up. 

There are loopholes and flaws in the system but I reached out here because I just couldn't find enough credible information in one place. I did find a myriad of websites targeting individuals to make their pets emotional support animals and a lot of misleading information on those websites that were not in line with the governing documents mentioned earlier in this text. 

I found a lot more information, I will not make this thread any longer than I already have, but am more than happy to discuss things I've been learning along the way. I hope this thread is helpful to someone out there or at least gets the discussion going. My entire purpose in this was to ensure as a landlord, I do what is right according to the law, whatever that may be. 

Cheers!

ADA:

Q3. Are emotional support, therapy, comfort, or companion animals considered service animals under the ADA?

A. No. These terms are used to describe animals that provide comfort just by being with a person. Because they have not been trained to perform a specific job or task, they do not qualify as service animals under the ADA. However, some State or local governments have laws that allow people to take emotional support animals into public places. You may check with your State and local government agencies to find out about these laws.

HUD/ADA

6. What is a "reasonable accommodation" for purposes of the Act?

A “reasonable accommodation” is a change, exception, or adjustment to a rule, policy, practice, or service that may be necessary for a person with a disability to have an equal opportunity to use and enjoy a dwelling, including public and common use spaces. Since rules, policies, practices, and services may have a different effect on persons with disabilities than on other persons, treating persons with disabilities exactly the same as others will sometimes deny them an equal opportunity to use and enjoy a dwelling. The Act makes it unlawful to refuse to make reasonable accommodations to rules, policies, practices, or services when such accommodations may be necessary to afford persons with disabilities an equal opportunity to use and enjoy a dwelling. To show that a requested accommodation may be necessary, there must be an identifiable relationship, or nexus, between the requested accommodation and the individual’s disability

7. Are there any instances when a provider can deny a request for a reasonable

accommodation without violating the Act?

Yes. A housing provider can deny a request for a reasonable accommodation if the request was not made by or on behalf of a person with a disability or if there is no disability related need for the accommodation. In addition, a request for a reasonable accommodation may be denied if providing the accommodation is not reasonable – i.e., if it would impose an undue financial and administrative burden on the housing provider or it would fundamentally alter the nature of the provider's operations. The determination of undue financial and administrative burden must be made on a case-by-case basis involving various factors, such as the cost of the requested accommodation, the financial resources of the provider, the benefits that the accommodation would provide to the requester, and the availability of alternative accommodations that would effectively meet the requester's disability-related needs. When a housing provider refuses a requested accommodation because it is not reasonable, the provider should discuss with the requester whether there is an alternative accommodation that would effectively address the requester's disability-related needs without a fundamental alteration to the provider's operations and without imposing an undue financial and administrative burden. If an alternative accommodation would effectively meet the requester's disability-related needs and is reasonable, the provider must grant it. An interactive process in which the housing provider and the requester discuss the requester's disability-related need for the requested accommodation and possible alternative accommodations is helpful to all concerned because it often results in an effective accommodation for the requester that does not pose an undue financial and administrative burden for the provider.

I realize this thread is about three years old, and have been doing significant research on this subject for about a week now. I'm interested in any updates/lessons learned/advice from the group. I have been searching for a local attorney that can best advise us regarding this circumstance. We absolutely support persons with disabilities, however as seen on TV, folks taking advantage of the system are not far from your doorstep. As property owners, what are our rights, how do we ensure we are protecting ourselves from litigation and liability. Even a no pet policy does not protect rental properties. 

Scenario: We recently received a notification from our tenant that both her Pit Bulls are now emotional support animals. We allowed the animals on the property, with a non refundable Pet fee and monthly pet rent. She is a good tenant, but what does this mean for us now legally and financially? While we want to ensure we are doing the right thing, we also don't want to be taken advantage of financially now or in the future. So, are we required to refund her non refundable pet fee and are we required to stop charging pet rent? Is this modification required to a new lease? I'm still looking for the answers. Again, we allowed the animals on the property, so is that already considered the "reasonable accommodation"? Florida Statue does not address an "Emotional Support Animal", only to service animals. While the letter from the clinical social worker, outlines the disability, the support required by the animals and lists 3 separate governing laws that allow these animals (ADA, FHA and rehabilitation act) in all three governing documents, it doesn't speak to the "fee's" just that they have to be reasonable accommodated. We also require the tenant to have a separate insurance policy, that they recently changed to exclude the breed she has. Is that a loophole for us to protect ourselves?

What I have found is that there is ambiguous verbiage in the letter of the law that does not clearly delineate what is required, only to refer to local and state laws. Additionally, there is a myriad of websites with information that is not in line with the FHA, ADA and rehabilitation laws rather "suggestions".

I will continue my research and update the thread if anyone has any interest but hope to hear back from any of you that may have experienced this or have already done some of this research. 

I'd love to hear an updated podcast on this, or if there is one can someone let me know?

Thanks.

Loree