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All Forum Posts by: Lisa H.

Lisa H. has started 10 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: Lending snobbery - DSCR loans

Lisa H.Posted
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@Stephanie P.

Yes!!!! This is what it feels like. I relate to the pennysaver woman—-and I remember pennysaver!!!! Thanks for responding. I’ll be sure to steer clear away from jerks like the one I was dealing with. 

Post: Lending snobbery - DSCR loans

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@Jill F.


Thanks for the advice. Maybe it’s because I’m looking in the 100k price range and they don’t want to loan such little money out. 

Post: Lending snobbery - DSCR loans

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@Nick Velez

Yes, he offers these loans. I just think it’s weird his abrupt shift. The first time talking with him he mentioned if I couldn’t get qualified for conventional that there were other paths. So here I am going down these other paths and he’s almost discouraging me because he’s saying I’ll likely never find a deal where the numbers work out. 

I have cash on hand to buy the property outright. But….you know, I don’t want to use MY money. I want to leverage someone else’s. Do you think lenders get upset with this fact at all?!?!? I wouldn’t think so. I just dont know. I’m a newby. 

Post: Lending snobbery - DSCR loans

Lisa H.Posted
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Has anyone experienced a lender treat you differently after reviewing your financials? I am working with this lender who was so friendly and helpful. I was fist trying to qualify for a conventional but since I can't verify some of my income and my tax returns are a bit of a mess, I'm going down the DSCR loan path. But this lenders attitude shifted. He says I wouldn't have any issues with getting a DSCR loan but "good luck finding any deals that pass the 1%." And he supposedly works with investors.

Post: Good Investment or Not?

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@Eli Yashar I have reached out to a lender. I’m going to talk with him later today. I’m not sure he knows I want such a small loan amount. The area I’m looking in has many homes under $100k. Does that mean banks don’t give regular home owners loans? 

Post: Good Investment or Not?

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@Dan H.  why don’t you think they would give me the loan? Too low amount? 

Post: Good Investment or Not?

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Quote from @Dan H.:

$80k plus closing costs, rents for $1200 (1.5%) with 50% rule is $600 month cash flow not including P&I.  Not a bad return if all cash. $7.2k cash flow. 

You discuss interest rates but I question getting any reasonable financing at that low of a price point.  Have you talked to a lender?  I suspect conventional will not be an option.   I question if financing will be feasible (I.e. any financing would be at very poor terms).

Price point indicates historically has NOT appreciated above CPI.  There is correlation between property appreciation and rent growth.  This implied rent growth is unlikely to be above CPI. 

Does $80k for $7.2k projected profit with unlikely growth above CPI meet your investment criteria?  Do you have $80k plus closing costs as I expect financing will be difficult?

It would not meet my buy criteria because difficulty using leverage and low chance of growth. 

Good luck


 I think what’s hard is defining my investment criteria.

I am working with a lender. Rates will likely be about 8%. Putting 20% down. 

This might sound foolish but I’m keen on putting this “deal” together for a good learning experience. It’s not a terrible deal.  I wouldn’t be loosing money unless it turns into some crazy lemon house with endless out of the ordinary repairs. 

Post: Good Investment or Not?

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@Chris Seveney

• The condition is not bad.  Needs cosmetic renovations. Paint, flooring, replace appliances, minor drywall patches, handyman work--and a lot of cleaning. May need a new air conditioner in the future. 

• It's a townhouse so all exterior should be covered by HOA (looking up the CC&R's to confirm).

• I believe it's in a C area.  Is there a map you can get online?  I haven't come across this yet.  I am assuming it's a C area based on the crime map.  Crime map puts it in a C grade BUT it's right on the edge of a A/B area. Its a block from stores/shopping/food. It sits right next to an elementary school. 

• Change for appreciation?  I believe so but not sure entirely.  There is a rental shortage in the area.  Not sure how to find this out. The property has earned $40k in equity in the last 4 years. 

Post: Good Investment or Not?

Lisa H.Posted
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Quote from @Alecia Loveless:

@Lisa Hartz If you like it and besides the mortgage and expenses you've also accounted for CapEx, Vacancy, and Repairs and Maintenance and it's still cash flowing then I say go for it.

Right now my portfolio, 25 doors is averaging $225/door/month. That’s about average. As you get better and do more deals likely you’ll start to get better returns.

My most recent deal is at $400/door/month and the one before that by next June once we’re done with a few more renovations will be at about $525/door/month.

I think your numbers look great for a first deal. We’re all hoping we’ll be able to refinance something in a few years, or maybe a lot of deals. If rates fall, higher cash flow is icing on the cake!

Your response is making me feel more confident in my decision . Yes, it still cash flows adding all the expenses up. Thank you for your input. 

Post: Good Investment or Not?

Lisa H.Posted
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I'm getting my feet wet for the first time in out-of-state investing. I am interested in a property that seems good. I will be buying and holding. If the offer is accepted, I would be purchasing the property for 75% of asking price (value). It passes the 1% rule. Actually it goes to about 1.5%. Cap rate at about 9.5% but the Coc ROI is only 6.39%. I still feel like this is a good deal because I think interest rates are about as high as they will likely go. Of course I could be wrong but I predict in a year or two the rates will have dropped to maybe around 6% and then I could refinance for bigger cash flow. It's also not a huge investment with the purchase price being only 80K. What are your thoughts?