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All Forum Posts by: Lincoln Slonaker

Lincoln Slonaker has started 4 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: New invester looking for guidance

Lincoln SlonakerPosted
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I have a deal that I am currently working on and I would love to get a second opinion. Anyone with some experience in the BRRRR method and/or owner financing would be a huge help to me. If you're interested in a phone call or a email correspondence about the property please reach out. I have all the numbers and wont waste your time. Thank you!

Im looking for anyone in MT that currently invests or is looking to invest to converse with. Whats your opinion on the states strong markets and weak markets? What is your favorite strategy to invest in our unique state? I personally think there is a big opportunity for short term rentals in my hometown, Kalispell. With crowds flooding in during the summer and fall for glacier national park. Plus recreation on Flathead lake and its surrounds attracting just as many people looking for adventure. One might think that a state like this might have a serious offseason in the winter. Personally I think that if you buy in the right location (close to ski resort) the winter months can be just as booked! I also think Kalispell hosts a great opportunity for mid term rentals. Its leading employer is the Medical industry, and as we all know mid term rentals are huge in markets like this! With traveling nurses and workers to combat the growth of the city its a perfect environment. Kalispell also just recently passed Bozeman in the fastest growing MT city. And with a population of only 26K theres tons of room for growth and property appreciation. I think what happened to Bozeman and its home prices will happen in Kalispell and they have already started to happen! Let me know what you guys think and if you would like to connect to talk more. 

Quote from @Jay Thomas:

Wow, good for you, that's a nice purchase price compared to market value!


 I just hope my comps are correct. Because its a smaller town multifamily only sells 10-12 times a year. 

Quote from @Kevin Woodard:

There is a rehab component to your project. Just curious, is the rehab time because there are tenants already in there? If you go with a construction loan your interest will be 10%+ interest-only for the duration of the construction but then you can tap into that forced appreciated without either 1) financing the $60,000 out of pocket (e.g. driving down credit score making refinancing more difficult) 2) having a pre-payment penalty (fairly typical for long term investor products). 

What does this mean? Acquisition interest rate should be adjusted to somewhere in the 10%-12% range and loan amount $156,000 (for 24 months). You should expect to bring 20% to close (although if it's a discounted property you may get away with less) + closing costs + 2%-4% of the loan amount for closing costs. Down payment would be more like $24,000 + closing + fees ( total cash to close for conservative calculations more like $33,000) compared to $70,000. Monthly interest-only payment $1,558 + insurance + taxes. 

For the refinance, you should adjust loan amount to $180,000 (75% of 240,000, you may be able to get 80% depending on state). You should bump that interest up to 8.5% for conservative underwriting in a long term increasing rate environment. This will give you an P&I of $1,352, factor in taxes and insurance. 

 Just looking at numbers posted, would be glad to discuss what those numbers mean for making or breaking the deal. Hope this helps. 


 Thank you for such an in depth response! This is an owner financed deal so I plan on using private money to pay for renovations. As far as cash to close I have an 8k downpayment with a 125k purchase price. These terms were just agreed on last night. It will be a 30 year loan with a 7% interest rate. How does that change how I should look at this deal? Its also tricky because its a smaller town with comps but not extremely recent comps. the only very recent I could find was a smaller 3-plex for 230k. 

Quote from @Jay Thomas:

We'd need a bit more information. 

It looks like you're doing a loan, for investment loans it usually started off with a 20%  down payment. From what I see with your report I am not certain what percentage you where using. So I ran the numbers for a loan for $120k with a 10% down payment (trying to stay close to your numbers), 7% interest. I got a down payment of $12,000 and closing cost $5,223. Try it with these numbers and lets see what you get. 

 I didn't notice the missing information! I found this property off the market and the owner is willing to finance it with a wrap around mortgage (her lender is okay with it also). 7% interest is correct. We have also agreed to a downpayment of 8K. The property was purchased by her in distress in 2017 for 145k. It apprised for 150 at the time. I have also found sold comps that range from 250-300K. We have since settled on a purchase price and it is 125K. Thank you for such a good response once i really appreciate it!

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@Julian Colvard


  I will look into that and see if its a possibility. thanks for the response! What are your recommendations with owner financing?  

Could I possibly make my payments on their mortgage through escrow? also why does it typically go unrecorded? thanks for such a fast response. @Chris Seveney

I have a question regarding deed to contract agreements. I am a first time investor and still learning especially when it comes to owner financing. If the current owner has a mortgage out on the property how can I get this place locked in still? I talked to a real estate attorney and he said that there is usually a clause preventing any secondary loans being held on the property. Hopefully I just misunderstood him because I was not aware of that. Thank you for any information!