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All Forum Posts by: Keith K.

Keith K. has started 10 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: TITLE SEARCHES

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Andrew, thinks for the tip.  I also go to my local county office and ask for a report on a property or print it from their computers if they have that kind of setup.  They're very helpful at my county office.  This is usually free and it weeds out most of the properties with liens, but should not replace a proper search conducted by a title company prior to closing.  This intermediate steps makes your $100 list shorter.

Post: How do you feel about economically depressed/stagnant regions?

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Mason V.:

I would like to know how the more experienced members feel about cities which have chained very little in the past 20 years. If you would like a specific context, The Dalles Oregon.That’s the town I grew up in and am thinking of investing in. It’s a demographically old dirty city...

 Mason, it sounds like you've got a good start on the demographic analysis.  You definitely have an advantage by having lived there - other investors would see it in the way you described above, but being on the ground and having personal knowledge with the community gives you a real edge.  I asked the small town question in one of my forum posts awhile back and, from the answers I got, decided that there is no problem with small towns as long as I study the market and determine that there IS a market.  You've already done that, but to take it one step further, maybe you should find another landlord/investor in the area, call them, and just ask some honest questions about the Market there.  Who knows, you might find a problem to solve and a willing seller.  Good luck.

@Zach Davis  thanks for the tip about utilities in the Portland market.  I guess if I have to pay water/sewer and garbage, I can keep an eye on the costs and see if they are typical and, if not, start pushing back on the renter or at least checking for leaks.

@Derek B.  I think you're basically saying that I can get away with whatever the Market can support.  That's a smart point.  When I am running numbers on prospect properties and I am pulling rental rates from comparable properties nearby and THEY are advertising certain utilities being included, my assumptions should be that way as well.  This would be a more conservative assumption than assuming I can push the cost back to the renter when I inherit them and still be competitive in the Market at that rental rate.

@Rick C.  @Bill P. thanks for your input as well.  I wonder if anyone has data on turnover versus whether utilities are paid for or not.  In other words, is paid-utilities an attraction that gets good renters to stay longer?  Perhaps it also gets bad renters to stay longer...

Post: Bought my first rental property

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Seth, can you give an update to your experience with this Fort Worth duplex rental?  Any lessons learned for distance investing?  Is that your strategy, generally?  What's making it successful for you?  Thanks.

In doing early analysis on potential investment properties for buy-and-hold, I check Craigslist and other online tools to find rent rates for properties close to my prospect property.  These listings often will say that the owner/landlord pays utilities.  I am curious to know if all this BP forum chatter about utilities paid by renters is really just wishful thinking and not typical.  I know that the utilities expenses are not part of the VIMTM, but they really do add up to significant expense!  

Also, I am wondering if it is realistic to push utilities back to an inherited renter when you take ownership of a property where the renters formerly enjoyed free utilities.  And if you get pushback from these renters when trying to pass utility costs to them, what do you do?  Any strategies?  Thanks for your time.

Post: Please advice on North Kelso Wa duplex opportunity :)

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Drew, 

Please make sure that you post your outcome or progress, good or bad.  Help us all learn.  Good luck.  

Post: Turning a friend's house Retail sale into a win-win deal

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Hi @Wayne Brooks and @James Wise , thanks for your replies.  I stumbled on a post yesterday where someone asked a similar question... and the answer was similar: this isn't really a deal as there's no meat on the bone.  It looks like low hanging fruit as there are many baby boomers who are unloading their nests in favor of downsizing, but they probably don't have motivation to do so with any method other than retail.

Post: Turning a friend's house Retail sale into a win-win deal

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Hi BP'ers, 

I've been reading Brandon's new No Money Down book and realized that I may have a deal unfolding right in front of my face.  A friend of mine has been sprucing up his rural home to prepare it for sale for several months now.  They built the home a little over 10 years ago so while they are anxious to down-size, get out of the Rural and get back to the Urban, they aren't really in a rush to sell.  They own the place free and clear.  They're are a little concerned that a realtor will want them to do even more work to get the place more marketable, and they are also concerned that, being rural, the place may sit on the market for awhile and it won't sell very quickly.  They're pretty much done putting more effort into the place, they want to get out of it, but see the process of putting it on the market as a big effort and a drag on their current lifestyle and situation.  

I first thought about this as a deal according to the screens of Equity & Motivation.  The seller owns the place free and clear.  So, there's definitely equity.  The seller is motivated by wanting to get out of the place as it burdens their time and energy.  The seller is also motivated in that they see the traditional home-sale route (through a realtor) may be even more of a burden for the reasons I described above.  

Now, I am trying to decide if there is a deal here that pencils out in terms of a buy-and-hold strategy.  Reading Brandon's book, particularly the part about Lease-Options and seller financing, told me that there may be opportunity here.  IMO the place is basically rent ready; if it were going on the retail market, I would say it could use some updates to make it more marketable, but not for the rental market.

However, since the seller is expecting to sell it through a Realtor, I assume they want a Retail price for the property.  The other challenge is that it is rural and I don't really have a feel or the data to know if there is a market for rural rentals.  I think the property may appeal to a higher-end buyer because it is a very nice home on acreage with a  view.  So, perhaps a Lease-Option may work, but again, I don't know if there is such a customer base.  These two concerns possibly make it a poor candidate in terms of cash flow.  

Ha, now I have to figure out what to ask you smart people!  I know you can't tell me if it'll cash flow without data and terms.  My questions are more qualitative than quantitative anyway:

1.  Are there typically buyers interested in Lease-Options for nice rural homes on acreage?  Are they easy to find or am I going to have to become an expert marketer to become a successful lessor?    BTW, I describe it as rural only because it is on a plot of a few acres and the nearby houses are all spread out. The property is only about 20-30 minutes drive from a major city who's RE market is in high demand.

2.  What can I offer the seller besides that I am taking this burden off their hands?  For example, If I do it as a Lease-Option or MLO where they still hold title and I pay them as a lessor and then rent or lease it to someone else, do I save the seller anything on their taxes because they don't have to sell the place?  Any other benefits to the seller?  I really like the idea of helping people with creative deals and want to do that here, too.

3.  Are there challenges with owning and running rentals when the properties are rural that don't arise when the properties are closer into town either because of the typical clientele or otherwise?  Is there additional (or less?) wear and tear typically?  Should I assume more in my analysis assumptions for things like vacancy, repairs, etc.?  

4.  How do I start the conversation with this seller in turning their viewpoint from a Retail sale approach to the potential approach I described above?  If I do it right and well, I may be able to define a sale price that pencils out in terms of cash-flow and, at the same time, gets them a price (or monthly payments) they are happy with, but not sure.

Sorry for the long post.  Thanks for your help.

Post: Rejection

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

Josh, well done.  Keep up the good work ;)  I am hoping to get some letters sent out that will be rejected soon myself, too.  You only have a sample size of 1, but deconstruct your result abit, if possible, and see if there were any clues from the call you received.  Also, send out more letters!

Post: Small town REI... how small is too small? And why?

Keith K.Posted
  • Investor
  • Portland, OR
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 10

@Richard C.  and @Paul Ewing thanks.  Your perspective is interesting.  The issue of small town politics was just one of the things on my mind when I asked the question -- not problems with tenants, but from the city council.  I'm dealing with it now on one of my properties where the local officials are going for an authoritarian approach instead of a democratic one.  I wonder if there is more exposure to these situations in small towns than large ones, or if I am just skewed by my data sample size of 1.