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All Forum Posts by: James Orr

James Orr has started 158 posts and replied 335 times.

Post: Creating Wealth Class

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

This week in our class we are going to discuss the strategy of buying 20 homes in 10 years and then selling off half of them to pay off the remaining properties as presented in "Creating Wealth" by Robert Allen. Come find out if this could work for you!

Join us at the Northern Colorado Real Estate Investor Group on April 24th for Creating Wealth.


Agenda:
5:45pm - Doors Opens
6:00pm - Class Start and Introductions
8:00pm - Class Ends/Networking Begins

Class is free but RSVP is required as space is limited.
http://bit.ly/CreateWealthBook

We teach a different class every week so check out our calendar to see what topics are coming up next!
https://www.meetup.com/Northern-Colorado-Real-Estate-Investor-Group/events/calendar/

Specializing in real estate and real estate investing in Fort Collins, Loveland, Greeley, Windsor, Timnath, Berthoud, and all of Northern Colorado.

Post: Nomad Podcast: Arguably the Best Class of the Year Part 4

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

Welcome to the Nomad Real Estate Investing Podcast hosted by me, James Orr. Follow along each week as we tackle a different topic about real estate and real estate investing. Make sure you don’t miss out on our amazing content by subscribing to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform.

Every so often we like to teach a class spanning several shorter topics which do not take up an entire class on their own. You can listen to Arguably the Best Class of the Year Part 4 at any of the links below or find us anywhere else you get your podcasts!

We have over 140 episodes up on the podcast covering a variety of real estate investing topics.

Post: Acquire a Multi-Million Dollar RE Portfolio Starting w/Just $3000

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

Thanks @George Cline. While we always suggest you attend in person since our recording equipment has failed before, we do try to record all the classes and then publish them to the Nomad Real Estate Investor podcast after. We do not stream them ever so to see it live you'd need to attend live. Does that help?

Post: Acquire a Multi-Million Dollar RE Portfolio Starting w/Just $3000

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

This is the class you've been waiting for. I will take you on an unforgettable journey... this will be the day you realize you can acquire a multi-million dollar real estate portfolio--even in today's crazy real estate market--with just $3,000.

It sounds unbelievable but I've heard people say this is the best class we teach of the 50+ different classes we've taught at NCREIG. Come find out why!

Join us at the Northern Colorado Real Estate Investor Group on April 17th for How to Acquire a Multi-Million Dollar RE Portfolio Starting with Just $3,000.

Agenda:
5:45pm - Doors Opens
6:00pm - Class Start and Introductions
8:00pm - Class Ends/Networking Begins

Class is free but RSVP is required as space is limited.
http://bit.ly/3KPortfolio

We teach a different class every week so check out our calendar to see what topics are coming up next!
https://www.meetup.com/Northern-Colorado-Real-Estate-Investor-Group/events/calendar/

Specializing in real estate and real estate investing in Fort Collins, Loveland, Greeley, Windsor, Timnath, Berthoud, and all of Northern Colorado.

Post: Hello Everyone! (I'm new here)

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

@Account Closed...

> I was unaware of the "nomad" method until this thread, but apparently that's what my wife and I are doing!

That's awesome!

> We bought a SFH in 2017 in Colorado Springs (5% down), rented our spare bed on AirBnb in the summer and had a friend live with us in the winter.

Yes, combining Nomad with House Hacking is a power combination.

> Great way to supplement our income and increase our ability to save!

Yes, it is.

> We just closed on our second property (also 5% down) near downtown COS.

Awesome! Congratulations!

> It has a walkout basement that we have turned into a guest suite.

Love it. House hack away!

> We are renting that on AirBnb as well!

Yes.

> I would definitely recommend House Hacking to get started.

Yes, there are some folks that are willing to house hack; many that are not. It is personal preference and prioritization.

> It is the best way (in my opinion) to lower your cost of living to save up faster for the next deal.

House hacking or side hustle both work. I have clients doing both. If you rent out a bedroom for $500 per month, it is like getting a $500 side hustle. Some people are not willing to house hack, but are totally willing to put together a side hustle like an fulfillment by Amazon business or whatever they're interested in.

> While CO overall is a competitive market, there are still some great growing areas.

Yes.

> I lived in FoCo for 5 years and loved it!

This is a great city.

> I don't know enough about that market to speak to the ROI at all.

We've seen ridiculously strong overall ROI the last decade or so.

> I do belive that Cos is still undervalued compared to the rest of the front range.

Maybe. Historically, I think the challenge with Colorado Springs has been the relative shortage of jobs. Have not looked at the numbers recently though so maybe that's been resolved.

> Overall it is tough to find a property that you could buy with 20% down and cash flow right away.

Yes, we have the same challenge here in Northern Colorado.

> Which is why I recommend house hacking to get started.

House hacking can definitely help improve cash flow.

> It is a great, low-risk way to get your investing started.

So, I primarily measure risk in two ways: debt to net worth and resiliency (like rent resiliency). Debt to net worth allows you to see how much debt you are carrying divided by your net worth. For most people doing Nomad with a small down payment (like 5% down payment) with little other assets is not really low risk in my definition. It is one of the higher risk ways of getting involved in investing, but it does front load your risk profile since you're able to acquire the properties sooner which gives you a lower risk than even 20% down later on (if you have to wait). So, you trade much higher up front risk for lower risk later.

As for resiliency, you're right that getting more income on your property from house hacking (and getting owner occupant interest rates by Nomading) can help reduce your risk in this measurement.

Hope that helps.

Post: Hello Everyone! (I'm new here)

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

@Account Closed... Nomad is buying a property as an owner-occupant, moving in and living there for at least a year (a requirement of the lender). Then, buy your next property as an owner-occupant and move in to that one. Keep the previous one as a rental. Repeat until you have the number of rentals you desire. You *can* combine Nomad with lease-options but it is not required. The benefits of Nomad are: lower down payments, owner-occupant interest rates, and the ability to get more than 10 30-year fixed rate loans in your name. Does that help?

Post: Nomad Podcast: Insider Secrets for Managing Your Property Manager

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

Welcome to the Nomad Real Estate Investing Podcast hosted by me, James Orr. Follow along each week as we tackle a different topic about real estate and real estate investing. Make sure you don’t miss out on our amazing content by subscribing to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform.

In this next episode our very own property management guru provides some of his best tips and tricks for managing your property manager.  You can listen to Brian's Insider Secrets for Managing Your Property Manager at any of the links below or find us anywhere else you get your podcasts!

We have over 140 episodes up on the podcast covering a variety of real estate investing topics.

Post: Nomad Podcast: Get the Best Property Manager to Work For You

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

Welcome to the Nomad Real Estate Investing Podcast hosted by me, James Orr. Follow along each week as we tackle a different topic about real estate and real estate investing. Make sure you don’t miss out on our amazing content by subscribing to our podcast on your favorite podcast platform.

In this episode we discuss how to select a property manger for your rentals. To listen to How to Get the Best Property Manager to Work For You follow the links below or find us anywhere else you get your podcasts:

We have over 140 episodes up on the podcast covering a variety of real estate investing topics.

Post: Turning a primary residence into a rental

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

Thanks for the mention @David Hooper.

Yes, @Scott Eakes... I have a number of clients using this exact strategy to acquire a portfolio of rental properties. We call it the Nomad investing strategy since you're moving from house to house as you acquire each property.

Some of the benefits:

  • Lower down payment required (0% VA/USDA and some local credit unions, 3% conventional, 3.5% FHA, 5% conventional) for owner-occupant loans means you can easily buy 4 properties with 5% down for the same down payment you'd need for a single 20% down payment non-owner-occupant purchase.
  • Better interest rate for owner-occupant (often even when you take into account PMI) which means better cash flow
  • No hard limit (beyond qualifying) on the number of 30 year fixed-rate financing loans you can get where if you do 20% you are usually limited to 10 total loans per social security number (you and your spouse if you did them solo could do 10 each)

Of course, the 300 pound gorilla in the room (and no... I am not referring to myself as a 300 pound gorilla... I'm only 270 pounds) is that you need to move in and live there for a year before converting it to a rental. But, the numbers are crazy amazing.

Here are a couple charts showing some of the results of doing this model.

Hope that helps.

Post: Hello Everyone! (I'm new here)

James OrrPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Fort Collins, CO
  • Posts 350
  • Votes 221

@Polly Feeney... sounds good. If you want to sit down and grab lunch to discuss, just send me a private message and let me know. I can send over a link to my calendar so we can set a day. I'm in Fort Collins and happy to do that with you.