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All Forum Posts by: Lari A.

Lari A. has started 5 posts and replied 43 times.

Post: Newly formed LLC (Question regarding bank account)

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15

Hello BP Community,

I'm a new investor who has just formed an LLC (sole member). I haven't been able to set up a bank account for the LLC yet, and my question is this: if I purchase and assign a property under the LLC, can the check be made out in my name to be deposited into my personal checking account (at which point, I will be able to open the LLC account)?

Thanks for any help with this!

Post: Wholesaling Caution Not The Great Deal You Thought

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Lari A.  nice post.... I think a few reality points are depending on your market the LAST thing someone is going to do is train their competition. Plus the movers and shakers are busy they don't have time ( at least I dont think most do) to be a so-called mentor for free.   

there has to be a return on there invested time. 

I think your on the correct path although I have heard FLA frowns on unlicensed people selling real estate IE wholesaling, And the companies that I fund in Orlando buy their wholesale deals through a licensed brokerage. so maybe get a RE license would be appropriate. you will get trained for the simple cost of a license .. then go to work with a broker who specilizes in what you want to do .. you will get paid to learn..And get a proper education from those that are invested in their craft and looking for a long term career. 

Also hanging out at the RIA's and try to befriend a successful investor... Not everyone wants to or would be good at mentoring. its a time suck and I can't think of anything more boring personally.. :)  So for all those that post that people should just mentor people for free well I think that is wishful thinking and flawed... If you want it go earn it.

Thanks for your input and feedback, Jay.  When I looked over my post (after hitting "Post Reply"), I realized that I may have come across as if I wanted someone to extend their time to me for free.  That is so far from the case, but I should've made that point more clear.  I have an administrative skill-set that I'd be able to barter -- if an investor needs someone to cold-call, write letters, answer phones, organize mailings and/or, like I stated, swing a hammer, I'm all in!

Also, as stated in my post, I'm getting to a point where I may be able to JV on deals. If I'm able to provide funding for acquisitions (that I, and a seasoned investor that's guiding me are working on), is that investor really guiding me for free if he/she is splitting the profits?

By the way, I HAVE looked into getting my license.  It's seems like the jury is divided on that here, because some people that I've spoken to say it's a waste of time and money.  I think it would be advantageous, and apparently you do also.

I'm not someone who needs a hand-holder -- a chat once a week, or a face-to-face once a month is all I would really need.  I'm more than willing to help out in any way that I can, because I do realize that life is basically quid pro quo, especially where money is involved.

Post: Wholesaling Caution Not The Great Deal You Thought

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15

I, like thousands of others, drank the kool-aid of the vast number of gurus who have passed through Tampa over the past six months. I, like thousands of others, was told that wholesaling was THE BEST means of getting into real estate investing if you don’t have money, and my interest was piqued. (They make it sound soooo easy, and it's how they hook us.) I, like thousands of others, don't have up-front capital to invest, but I, unlike thousands of other "victims", know that wholesaling is a BUSINESS that requires continuing education in order to become an asset to the investors that we hope to develop real relationships with. In essence, it’s like any other BUSINESS, and in this, and other businesses, you will always have those who want to learn as little as possible in order to gain as much as possible. Scammers and laziness can be found in EVERY business on the planet.

I have so much desire to learn the wholesaling business from the ground up. I've joined my local REIA, attend as many of the other REIA meetings that I can around Tampa, I network, study everything that I can, read what's available on BP (natch!), and I'm always looking for ways to improve on my knowledge. I closed on my first deal just this past Monday (11/23), and I know that I got the seller out of a bind. I ran the numbers on 11/11 (and got the property under contract that day via a signed Letter of Intent, and a Purchase and Sale Agreement signed by both myself and the seller), presented the deal to my buyers on 11/12, and assigned the contract to a cash buyer (that another wholesaler brought to me) on 11/13. I left enough meat on the bone for all parties to eat, and all was closed in under 2 weeks. I felt pleased that I was able to (1) help someone, and (2) take down my first deal after seven months of analysis paralysis. I'm in the middle of my 2nd deal, and I've quickly learned that the above scenario isn't how this business always goes. I asked the wholesaler from my first deal to ask a few select buyers if they had any interest, and he blasted the property out as if it was his own. Highly unethical, and I had a false sense of trust because my first deal went so well with him. Also, I priced the property incorrectly, so I'm learning some hard lessons, and take FULL responsibility for the fallout. These are mistakes that I won't repeat, and unfortunately, I'm learning in the middle of a deal. Having guidance from a mentor would've helped to prevent my current situation.

And, that's where a lot of the problems stem for us "newbs". Head knowledge is one thing, but applied knowledge is the most important thing! I find that so many people would rather bash the lack of knowledge of the "newbs" being eaten up and spat out by the gurus, instead of extending their hand and sharing their knowledge! I'm ethical, honorable, and so desirous of a mentor (not a babysitter!) who I could look to for guidance here and there to help me grow within this business, and I would be an excellent mentoree for an experienced investor.

Wasn’t everyone on this site a "newb" at the beginning of their real estate investing careers? Who helped YOU to garner knowledge in your chosen niche? Who did you look to for guidance? Very few people become successful in any business on their own. I'd love to partner up with ANYONE who has been successful in this business. I also think that some people don’t want to share their knowledge because they feel that you’ll become successful enough to become their competition. Isn’t there enough profit out there for everyone? I don’t need what you have; I need what you know!

I'm working on having access to acquisition funds for deals in several weeks, and I want to JV with a PROVEN SUCCESSFUL INVESTOR who could provide the rehab funds, show me the ropes with boots on the ground, and split profits!

I'm willing, capable, teachable, organized, business-minded, and nice. And yes, that matters more than many seem to think. But, where does someone like me (who would be an asset to any organization, I might add) find someone who values what I have to bring to the table? Where do I look to associate with those who are ethical and ARE WILLING (‘cause the majority of you are able) to share, teach, and guide others and pay it forward? I’ve reached out on this site in the past, and I recently asked a successful wholesaler if he would consider mentoring me, and he responded that he feels "inadequate" to mentor.

It’s very frustrating knowing that I have what it takes to become successful (not just monetarily) in real estate investing, and yet not being able to get the training that I need from someone vested in my success. All of the bashing posts are speaking to some of the very issues that I’m having, but my mis-steps are not based on not caring or trying to scam anyone. I want to be one of the best in my chosen profession, and I’m like many who learn best with hands-on, as opposed to just reading how-to books. Help me out! Let’s share the profits! Hang out with someone who’s cool and has a good sense of humor (btw, that would be me...lol), and who’s not afraid to get into the trenches with you, swing a hammer, pull weeds, paint, work hard, and get it done! I’ve paid for the seminars, webinars, 3-day bootcamps, and the $1,997's (you know what those are!), but need a mentor. Period.

It would be great if all of the bashers of wholesalers would get together in their respective cities and form weekly training sessions for wholesalers who want to be better at what they do. Charge a small fee (if you’re strictly profit based), or just do it because you want to change how wholesalers operate. Trust me, we will come.  But, if your fee is $1,997, we know what your motive really is, and you'll just be another one of "them" spitting out the very wholesalers that you're bashing.

I’ve always believed this -- if you're complaining about something and don't become a part of the solution, that makes you a part of the problem.

Okay! It wasn’t my intent, but I guess the length of this post could be considered a rant. I'm only sharing my opinion, and hope that my post will be received in the spirit in which it was written. If anyone’s offended by it, bash it if you must but I won’t be responding to anything negative. Taylor Swift told us how to handle that!!! LOL

HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all of you, and may the majority of your deals be PROFITABLE!

Post: LLC Confusion in Florida!

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Al Wilson:
By all means, sit down with your attorney and have him or her explain this to you. No need to go to another state to form your entity. Good luck.

Al,

You're absolutely right, and thanks for your input!

Post: LLC Confusion in Florida!

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Amanda Davis:

The reason why some people form an LLC for every transaction, is because they want to minimize the risk for their other properties. For example, let's say a tenant successfully sues your LLC and get a 200,000 dollar judgment. If the only asset you have in that LLC is the property X, which you have 35,000 dollar equity, then your other assets and rental portfolio would be may be safe because they are not an asset of that LLC. This sometimes is advantageous but not in every situation. Also, forming a separate LLC for every property is not the only way to protect your real estate portfolio and can be very cumbersome. And if not done properly, will not offer any additional protection.


But if you want to know which entity is best for you and works well in your State, you need to contact a real estate attorney. If you can't get an recommendation you should contact your local Bar association and they should be able to give you a reference.

Amanda,

I so appreciate you breaking this "one LLC for each transaction" concept down for me! And, for the record, I will definitely be seeing a real estate attorney to discuss my options further.

Post: LLC Confusion in Florida!

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:

@Lari A. Forget the Nevada LLC thing altogether. Lots of hassle for little benefit-the only real benefit is it hides your identity-if that really is a benefit.

Generally, an LLC is Not necessary for transactional funding. Annual fees for a Florida LLC are $150, no big deal. But then, the Need for an LLc is quite overblown, along with some of the hassles it creates...no conventional financing, insurance problems from some companies, etc.

Thank you for offering more clarification on this subject for me.  You, and the others above, have certainly given me something to chew on, and I feel that I can now make an informed decision.

Post: LLC Confusion in Florida!

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15

Thank you John Kent, Michael Helton, and Steve Vaughn for your thorough and detailed responses. You all have helped me to understand this process better, and it is obvious that I just need to put this in the hands of the professionals in order to have my LLC formed properly, and to be protected all around.

Steve: The private transactional funding available to me will give me up to two days to turn my deals around, and my focus is on pre-forclosures and foreclosures for my buyers.

Post: LLC Confusion in Florida!

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15

Hello BP Community,

I've been reading the BP forums (and others) regarding forming LLCs, and oftentimes the information in one post/article negates what's in the next. My confusion lies in the varying information concerning the rates, states, and methods of forming an LLC. One BP poster even stated that he forms an LLC for every transaction that he does! (See below. He was telling another poster to not deal with an attorney who wanted to charge $1,000 to form an LLC).

Originally posted by @Kevin Costello:

Run from that attorney. I do a new entity for every transaction. I did one this week that cost me $350 and came with a simple operating agreement and a seal for the llc.

I'm more confused than before, because I was under the impression that one LLC protects you from litigation on all of the deals that you do under that LLC.

I've read that incorporating in Delaware or Nevada is advantageous, but that there are disadvantages of incorporating in a state that you don't reside in. I've also been told that forming my LLC in Florida (my home state) will turn out to be costly over time, because of the annual fees.

I'm an individual who will be working alone as I build and develop my real estate business. I have yet to pull down a deal, but I want to form an LLC to take advantage of transactional funding that is available to me (up to $750k per deal at a very good rate). I know that nothing's "simple", but I simply want to form an LLC that will cover me for the next several years as I develop my real estate investing business, that won't cost me exorbitant annual fees, and that won't require me plunking down thousands of dollars for an attorney's advice (which I don't have anyway).

Can anyone offer any solid 1-2-3 guidance on how I should proceed in forming my LLC in my home state of Florida, or elsewhere?

Many thanks!

Post: Cap Rates

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15

Thanks everyone for letting me know that Cap Rate % is not something that I need to be concerned with at this time.

Post: Cap Rates

Lari A.Posted
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 48
  • Votes 15
Originally posted by @Phil Bach:

I've got a bunch of spreadsheets that I use to thoroughly analyze all of my deals before I pitch them to investors. If you'd like I can send them over your way. More or less if its a rough/risky neighborhood, we shoot for 20-25% ROI for our investors, middle class neighborhoods 12-20% ROI, and higher end stuff $150k+ 5-10%.

Phil,

I would be so appreciative of anything that you'd send my way.  Thank you, and I'm looking forward to receiving the spreadsheets and getting more familiar with what numbers would work for potential investors!