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All Forum Posts by: Laura NA

Laura NA has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

Post: Is it me or is my realtor right?

Laura NAPosted
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That is very true and I got him from my father on the recommendation that he is good. I was not gonna move on to a new realtor because he did show me a couple properties and use his time but I don't like the feeling of being pushed and based on the answers I'm getting here it's the right thing to do. 

Post: Is it me or is my realtor right?

Laura NAPosted
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Hey thanks for your reply. I have been wanting a 2nd property for many years but I didnt feel financially comfortable with the idea of buying a 2nd one until now which is my early 30s! I did view five properties with the agent over 6 months that I thought I absolutely would buy but when I viewed them I found issues that I thought to costly to repair. I think it takes time and I need to find an agent who will be patient and understand that. I agree their are high costs with having the license just for personal purposes. 

Post: Is it me or is my realtor right?

Laura NAPosted
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Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Most places will not be perfect.  It is a matter of knowing what can be fixed and how much it will cost.  If you find a building that is outdated, it will be priced accordingly and is a great opportunity to updated it and add value-when updating though keep in mind you are not living in it and not to go over the top.  Be realistic when you are looking- if you are looking at price points below average, you are going to find places that are below average.

If you don't like the current market (interest rates and prices), then don't buy.  You need to find the place that is right for you, but from a realtor's perspective ask yourself honestly if you are wasting their time or are you serious about buying?  Have they shown you a couple of places or dozens of places over a short period of time?  Are they showing you places that match what you've asked them to show you?


 Thanks for your response. I agree maybe it's just the market because a three unit that costs $600,000 in just an ok area should not need another $50,000 to bring it up to code. Also, I totally get realtors work for free until a sale, but the way this guy is pushing just makes me wanna gravitate away. I also tried to always attend as many open houses as possible to not waste his time and went as far as contacting the listing agent myself before him for properties I am interested in.

Post: Is it me or is my realtor right?

Laura NAPosted
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 3
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Laura NA:
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Laura NA:

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum and I have been watching it for a few months now waiting for the right time to post. I will try to keep this short and I appreciate any and all info given. I have been looking to purchase a second property as an investment for about one year now and it wasn't until last year that I began actually touring multiunits in Chicago and in the Chicagoland suburbs.  I got my realtor from my father who was big into real estate investing over 30 years ago and did very well until some big life's problems came his way which forced him to sell all his buildings. I have probably viewed about five or six properties in person and look at realty sites at least twice a day. I just viewed what looked to be a beautiful 3 unit in the photos a few days ago, but when I got there it was apparent the building had a natural gas smell in the basement, plus the owner pays all heat for the building since there is only one furnace. Also an electrical meter was missing on the outside and I just saw two leading me to believe the building wasn't even a legal three-unit so for the high price my dad and me agreed to pass on this one as well.

A few days later I got a rather angry call from my realtor asking me why I keep passing on good buildings and what's going on? He said your dad comes from a different age where things were maintained differently and that I need to make a move if I want something. Now I know realtors are salesmen and middlemen and I am not a huge fan of them in general but I can't help but wonder if he is right about this. He said every building is going to have some problems with it, but I guess I keep comparing it my first home which I got really lucky with as it was new construction and I didn't even use a realtor to buy it. Does everyone think this is true, are all buildings going to have issues with them, and I am not referring to cosmetic ones? I also think many buildings I view are super outdated and I view the landlords as just milking the buildings and not putting money back into them so I view it as buying someone's else problem. I also think the current climate to buy is bad and has been for a while now with no end in sight. I am eager to buy to here everyone's thoughts as to whether I am too picky or is the realtor wrong and just trying to make his money quick?

You're on a REI board, with real estate agents so take this for what it is. But as an investor--I notice the same nonsense. At the end of the day, you're an investor and you need to have direction where you are going and then conviction. I invest in a lot of cities, so I'm not speaking with just a single experience; these agents are pushy, don't care about your best interest, they just don't want to spend too much time and not see a deal get done. They are on free time, so unless something gets done their patience wanes. 99% of agents are absolute, and utter trash. Even, heck especially, the one's on here. 

If that investment doesn't suit it-- it doesn't suit it. Now could it? Maybe, with different terms and that's up to you if you want to make that extra risk associated with it and how much you feel the other side needs to, too. So you could always "make a market". If that's not your thing though, don't listen to someone else telling you what to do.

My advice is tell this to realtor to get over your dad, and you are over them. Find a new real estate agent and understand the angle they come with-- and be prepared to stand firm. Or hire a lawyer to help watch you as you search the MLS yourself and talk to the listing agent directly. I've done both, the latter has proved a ton more successful. The legal fee is nominal given I could get house prices for significantly less when we negotiated the listing agent's commission on houses. You'd be surprised how  much they are willing to give in and how much sellers will lower asking with those concessions. 

I appreciate your response and I couldn't agree more with your comment that "99% of real estate agents are trash." I have been working on getting a license so I can get access to the MLS myself. Are their any other ways to do it without a license? Currently, when I see something and contact the listing agents myself I get the s******* responses from the listing agents.


I would ask them to check out the house physically, if you get there then make a firm offer you're comfortable with it. Draft it up with legal help the submit, and see what shakes. If you don't get to view it or the listing agent is being a PIA, go higher up at the brokerage he or she at, and ask to see it. If anyone is getting cute in today's low liquidity and transactional volume times, then they need to be set straight. I've had some listing agents push me away as if I'm just wasting their times, so I talked to their boss. Real quick they tighten up and now welcome my team & I, or my rep, in. 


 I will definitely try this, and I usually escalate with anything else if needed to but never thought to do it for realtors as well after they insist having my agent call them to see the property. I appreciate your honesty and advice because it's let me know I am going in the right direction. 

Post: Is it me or is my realtor right?

Laura NAPosted
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 3
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Laura NA:

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum and I have been watching it for a few months now waiting for the right time to post. I will try to keep this short and I appreciate any and all info given. I have been looking to purchase a second property as an investment for about one year now and it wasn't until last year that I began actually touring multiunits in Chicago and in the Chicagoland suburbs.  I got my realtor from my father who was big into real estate investing over 30 years ago and did very well until some big life's problems came his way which forced him to sell all his buildings. I have probably viewed about five or six properties in person and look at realty sites at least twice a day. I just viewed what looked to be a beautiful 3 unit in the photos a few days ago, but when I got there it was apparent the building had a natural gas smell in the basement, plus the owner pays all heat for the building since there is only one furnace. Also an electrical meter was missing on the outside and I just saw two leading me to believe the building wasn't even a legal three-unit so for the high price my dad and me agreed to pass on this one as well.

A few days later I got a rather angry call from my realtor asking me why I keep passing on good buildings and what's going on? He said your dad comes from a different age where things were maintained differently and that I need to make a move if I want something. Now I know realtors are salesmen and middlemen and I am not a huge fan of them in general but I can't help but wonder if he is right about this. He said every building is going to have some problems with it, but I guess I keep comparing it my first home which I got really lucky with as it was new construction and I didn't even use a realtor to buy it. Does everyone think this is true, are all buildings going to have issues with them, and I am not referring to cosmetic ones? I also think many buildings I view are super outdated and I view the landlords as just milking the buildings and not putting money back into them so I view it as buying someone's else problem. I also think the current climate to buy is bad and has been for a while now with no end in sight. I am eager to buy to here everyone's thoughts as to whether I am too picky or is the realtor wrong and just trying to make his money quick?

You're on a REI board, with real estate agents so take this for what it is. But as an investor--I notice the same nonsense. At the end of the day, you're an investor and you need to have direction where you are going and then conviction. I invest in a lot of cities, so I'm not speaking with just a single experience; these agents are pushy, don't care about your best interest, they just don't want to spend too much time and not see a deal get done. They are on free time, so unless something gets done their patience wanes. 99% of agents are absolute, and utter trash. Even, heck especially, the one's on here. 

If that investment doesn't suit it-- it doesn't suit it. Now could it? Maybe, with different terms and that's up to you if you want to make that extra risk associated with it and how much you feel the other side needs to, too. So you could always "make a market". If that's not your thing though, don't listen to someone else telling you what to do.

My advice is tell this to realtor to get over your dad, and you are over them. Find a new real estate agent and understand the angle they come with-- and be prepared to stand firm. Or hire a lawyer to help watch you as you search the MLS yourself and talk to the listing agent directly. I've done both, the latter has proved a ton more successful. The legal fee is nominal given I could get house prices for significantly less when we negotiated the listing agent's commission on houses. You'd be surprised how  much they are willing to give in and how much sellers will lower asking with those concessions. 

I appreciate your response and I couldn't agree more with your comment that "99% of real estate agents are trash." I have been working on getting a license so I can get access to the MLS myself. Are their any other ways to do it without a license? Currently, when I see something and contact the listing agents myself I get the s******* responses from the listing agents.

Post: Is it me or is my realtor right?

Laura NAPosted
  • Posts 6
  • Votes 3

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum and I have been watching it for a few months now waiting for the right time to post. I will try to keep this short and I appreciate any and all info given. I have been looking to purchase a second property as an investment for about one year now and it wasn't until last year that I began actually touring multiunits in Chicago and in the Chicagoland suburbs.  I got my realtor from my father who was big into real estate investing over 30 years ago and did very well until some big life's problems came his way which forced him to sell all his buildings. I have probably viewed about five or six properties in person and look at realty sites at least twice a day. I just viewed what looked to be a beautiful 3 unit in the photos a few days ago, but when I got there it was apparent the building had a natural gas smell in the basement, plus the owner pays all heat for the building since there is only one furnace. Also an electrical meter was missing on the outside and I just saw two leading me to believe the building wasn't even a legal three-unit so for the high price my dad and me agreed to pass on this one as well.

A few days later I got a rather angry call from my realtor asking me why I keep passing on good buildings and what's going on? He said your dad comes from a different age where things were maintained differently and that I need to make a move if I want something. Now I know realtors are salesmen and middlemen and I am not a huge fan of them in general but I can't help but wonder if he is right about this. He said every building is going to have some problems with it, but I guess I keep comparing it my first home which I got really lucky with as it was new construction and I didn't even use a realtor to buy it. Does everyone think this is true, are all buildings going to have issues with them, and I am not referring to cosmetic ones? I also think many buildings I view are super outdated and I view the landlords as just milking the buildings and not putting money back into them so I view it as buying someone's else problem. I also think the current climate to buy is bad and has been for a while now with no end in sight. I am eager to buy to here everyone's thoughts as to whether I am too picky or is the realtor wrong and just trying to make his money quick?