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All Forum Posts by: Larry Spradling

Larry Spradling has started 3 posts and replied 20 times.

Post: Advice on a horrible situation

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Jeff Ronningen:

@Larry Spradling. Larry, you didn’t state where the property is located but I’m familiar with SW Ohio. There are many homes in that price range so I’m going to assume you live within a reasonable driving distance. I would do my own research and I’d invest a lot of time and effort. You stand to lose your down payment and over $10K more, so tens of thousands which is worth a lot of time and effort. Research the area and make your own determination of the value. Determine if improvements to increase rent or sale price are a good idea. Evaluate market rents. Research PMs. Research the rules for rehab/improvements, changing PMs, selling, etc. so you are equipped to make good decisions. Then make your move.

 I'm in Cincinnati.  The property is located in Chicago.

Post: Advice on a horrible situation

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @William Kyle Walker:

What's the area where the property is located doing? If it's up an coming and you can float the $22 a month. Hold until the market rises high enough. 

If the city and neighborhood are good, all buildings are cheap if your time horizon is out long enough. 

 I'm not sure.  I live in Cincinnati and it's located in the south side of Chicago.

Post: Advice on a horrible situation

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Brit F.:

@Larry Spradling, have you visited the property and talked to the tenants? Is there any opportunity to improve the property to drive up the equity? If the tenant's lease is still in place, and if you want them out, see how much cash they'll accept to vacate (i.e. cash for keys). Might be cheaper to do this vs eviction. Agree with firing the PM and finding a new one or self managing. You can do it yourself, but there are limits under the SDIRA. If you go that way, talk to an attorney or whoever helped you set up the SDIRA LLC to make sure you understand the self-managing rules.

 No.  I live in Cincinnati and the property is in the south side of Chicago.

Post: Advice on a horrible situation

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @William Kyle Walker:

What's the area where the property is located doing? If it's up an coming and you can float the $22 a month. Hold until the market rises high enough. 

If the city and neighborhood are good, all buildings are cheap if your time horizon is out long enough. 

 It's in the south side of Chicago.

Post: Advice on a horrible situation

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:

@Larry Spradling. I was reading some old threads about these guys and looks like what happened to you is very common. Looks like they didn’t have an appraisal or it was “in-house” appraiser.

Do you have a balloon payment coming up in a few years? You’re probably best off just selling it

 Yes, I do have a balloon payment coming up in three years.

Post: Advice on a horrible situation

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6

No I didn't it. Everything runs through my IRA custodian. The rent check goes straight into my IRA account, so I'm completely hands off. I worked directly with Growth Equity Group, but I would assume the loan approval was contingent on an appraisal. I searched for threads on Growth Equity Group in the forums of Bigger Pockets and found that they are known for selling properties well above market value. Not sure how they got away with it. They are no longer in business.

Post: Advice on a horrible situation

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6

Two years ago, I was brand new to real estate and transferred my IRA to a self-directed IRA. I was introduced to a company called Growth Equity Group that specialized in turnkey rentals for folks like me who had IRA funds to invest. I thought I knew enough to move forward, but clearly didn't ask enough questions or exercise enough caution. I received a letter last month from the mortgage company stating that my loan was going to go into default if I didn't make the last 4 payments. Turns out that the tenant wasn't paying rent and the property manager didn't bother to let me know what was going on. I got that straightened out and then started digging more into the property. After running the numbers, my monthly cashflow is NEGATIVE 22.00 a month. I talked to the property manager about selling the property so they sent me a market analysis that shows the average comp is $40,000 to $50,000. I paid $100,900 for this home two years ago. I owe $62,000 on it. This is so upside down that I don't know what to do. Would greatly appreciate some advice. What I don't need is a lecture. This is my fault as I knew just enough to be dangerous and now I'm paying for it. At this point, negative $22.00 a month seems less costly than taking a multi-thousand dollar hit by selling it for signficanly less than what I bought it for. Am I right in this thinking? Are there other options I should consider?

Post: Realtor in Park Forest, IL

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6

I'm looking for a realtor in Park Forest, IL to help me sell a rental property.  Please let me know if you have any recommendations.

Post: Tax question from a newbie

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6
Originally posted by @Ashish Acharya:
Originally posted by @Larry Spradling:

2018 was my first year of owning properties.  I bought two turnkey properties and received a 1099 for the rental income they generated.  I entered this info into Turbo Tax.  I was expecting some tax benefits.  Am I missing something or doing something wrong?  Would appreciate any help or insight.

 Is your 1099 Net of expenses  or gross? 

Your gross rent revenue is decreased by the expenses. A depreciation is one of the expenses. Did you calculate the depreciation or put the info in the turbo tax for it to calculate?

If your expenses are greater than the rent, than you get to deduct the loss against your income if your Modified AGI is below 150k. ( unless you qualify for RE pro and it’s requirement) 

There is not tax benefit if your have net income. You probably will pay more or higher taxes if there is no loss. 

The properties has to carefully analyzed  and investing has to be carefully structured if a tax shelter was one of your preferences.

The 1099 is gross.  That's part of my confusion.  I would have expected the 1099 to be only what was paid out to me after expenses.  How do I account for the expenses in Turbo Tax?

Post: Tax question from a newbie

Larry Spradling
Posted
  • Cincinnati, OH
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 6

2018 was my first year of owning properties.  I bought two turnkey properties and received a 1099 for the rental income they generated.  I entered this info into Turbo Tax.  I was expecting some tax benefits.  Am I missing something or doing something wrong?  Would appreciate any help or insight.