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All Forum Posts by: Lara Pan

Lara Pan has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

Thank you all for sharing your points and thoughts here with me. I will disclose this information with prospect tenants, but since it is still under investigation and I am not very sure about the details of the incident, I would leave it up to them to research about the details of it. This is our first rental property and we are extremely anxious about it, I think the beginner's luck went south for us. 

At the moment I don't know a PM, but I will definitely start looking for a good one, if I can't lease this property within a month.

Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:
Originally posted by @Lara Pan:
Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

Maybe his story checks out and he's a great neighbor. But that still leaves you with a house in a community where two people attempted to break in. It sounds like a "mostly peaceful" neighborhood, kind of like the "mostly peaceful" riots that took place during the Summer of Love last year.

Personally, I would let people know. Can you image the liability (in California, of all places) if you didn't disclose it, the tenant were hurt, and then the tenant learns that you knew about the break-in next door? 

If you're home is located in an area where crime levels are increasing dramatically and the crime took place that recently, I would be honest. It may scare some away but for most people they'll understand it's probably not "normal" and they'll just take extra precautions to protect themselves.

 Thank you for your advice. It's very helpful! 

While I morally feel I need to disclose this information, I was reading online that landlords are obligated to disclose any death on their property within the last 3 years. I didn't know I am obligated to disclose information about the next door neighbor under investigation! Is there any where I can find out more about the law? 

On the other hand, the next door neighbor's property is the eyesore of the neighborhood, and overall looks sketchy. I don't want to judge him based on the fact that he doesn't take care of his property, but it makes it even harder to find the right wording to disclose this information. 

 You may not be legally required to disclose it, but what if you are put in a situation where you need to disclose it? For example, what if the prospective tenant asks you if the neighbors are decent? What if they ask you if the neighborhood is safe? What if they ask if there is any crime in the neighborhood? All of these questions would require you to disclose what you know or you are lying by omission. One option is to hire a property manager to handle leasing. They would know nothing and they would truthfully say, "I have no knowledge of the neighborhood" - assuming you didn't tell them anything. That is what I would recommend. Put a layer in the middles so you are not forced to lie.

I am not making a big margin on this property so I won't be able to afford a PM. However I am not sure if having someone else to rent it out will protect me from liabilities. I am sure PMs also protect themselves from not being reliable in this kind of situations.  

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:
Originally posted by @Lara Pan:

While I morally feel I need to disclose this information, I was reading online that landlords are obligated to disclose any death on their property within the last 3 years. I didn't know I am obligated to disclose information about the next door neighbor under investigation! Is there any where I can find out more about the law? 

On the other hand, the next door neighbor's property is the eyesore of the neighborhood, and overall looks sketchy. I don't want to judge him based on the fact that he doesn't take care of his property, but it makes it even harder to find the right wording to disclose this information. 

Go to www.nolo.com and you can research specific laws. Your requirement is only to report deaths that occur on your property. You aren't responsible for knowing what happens in every home on the block.

I'm not surprised to hear the neighboring house is run down. Most criminals engage people they know. He probably hangs with a rough crowd and a couple of them came over to threaten him, rob him, or something and it got out of control. That's just one more reason to disclose the situation because it could affect your property and your renters.

How would you disclose this incident to your prospect tenants without scaring them away?

Originally posted by @Darius Ogloza:

@Lara Pan  

You may or may not have a legal disclosure duty here under California law - I frankly do not know whether you do or not.  

However, let's run the traps here.  

You now have knowledge about a recent break in the house next door.  Were there to be a break-in at your rental, this fact would certainly come out at trial should an injured tenant sue you.  If the tenant got hurt, I, as a juror, would wonder why you had not disclosed this fact so that your tenants could take appropriate precautions.  I would likely conclude that your failure to disclose arose out of putting your economic interest ahead of the tenant's physical safety.  This would adversely affect my decision as to your liability for the tenant's injuries.    

It makes sense, however if comes down to a tenant suing me, how can I actually prove that I have disclosed this information with them?? Should I add this to the contract? Is it possible to add a hypothetical situation to a lease contract?

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

Maybe his story checks out and he's a great neighbor. But that still leaves you with a house in a community where two people attempted to break in. It sounds like a "mostly peaceful" neighborhood, kind of like the "mostly peaceful" riots that took place during the Summer of Love last year.

Personally, I would let people know. Can you image the liability (in California, of all places) if you didn't disclose it, the tenant were hurt, and then the tenant learns that you knew about the break-in next door? 

If you're home is located in an area where crime levels are increasing dramatically and the crime took place that recently, I would be honest. It may scare some away but for most people they'll understand it's probably not "normal" and they'll just take extra precautions to protect themselves.

 Thank you for your advice. It's very helpful! 

While I morally feel I need to disclose this information, I was reading online that landlords are obligated to disclose any death on their property within the last 3 years. I didn't know I am obligated to disclose information about the next door neighbor under investigation! Is there any where I can find out more about the law? 

On the other hand, the next door neighbor's property is the eyesore of the neighborhood, and overall looks sketchy. I don't want to judge him based on the fact that he doesn't take care of his property, but it makes it even harder to find the right wording to disclose this information. 

My husband and I have recently purchased a rental single family property in a class B neighborhood in Los Angeles and few weeks ago there was a shooting involving the neighbor next door who shot and killed two people. He called the police himself and told the police that they were trying to force their way inside his house. Police is still investigating the case. 

We are in the process of renting this property and we want to know should we disclose this information to prospective tenants? If yes, how do we do so without scaring them away? The neighborhood overall is a very calm and safe neighborhood. Other neighbors are also shocked and surprised about this incident. We are really concerned that we won't be able to rent this property. 

Any advice is highly appreciated!