Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 54%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$69 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Kyle Shankin

Kyle Shankin has started 12 posts and replied 145 times.

Post: What's the latest on section 8? Go or no go?

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

I'm looking to buy and am going to be viewing a property that already has a tenant in it, and the tenant is being subsidized via section 8.  I don't have any experience or much knowledge about section 8. When I talked to my realtor about it, she sounded positive over the prospect of the government paying the rent. However, after reading this article on BP regarding section 8, I'm concerned over the possibility that the tenant would not be able to pay rent, even with the subsidy. 

So I'm asking you all for your experiences. Do you all think renting out to section 8 tenants is a good thing or a bad thing? 

Post: How do you Handle Non-standard Cash Deals?

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

Thank you @Sylvia B. That is also very insightful and I LOVE your story about the church, what an odd situation!!

Your point about local knowledge is well received and I'm glad you brought it up. I believe that all advice should be taken with the proverbial grain of salt, and it's the recipients job to apply the advice in a context that best fits their situation. I asked this question because I wanted to see what experiences other BP members have been through. However, I also asked the same question to my cousin, who works at a title agency local to me 🙂.

In any case, thanks again. I appreciate your insight and experience 😁.

Post: How do you Handle Non-standard Cash Deals?

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

Thanks @Tahra Wright, I appreciate the insight :D

Post: How do you Handle Non-standard Cash Deals?

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97
Originally posted by @Tahra Wright:

@Kyle Shankin In any non-standard transactio I personally would suggest that you should use an attorney.  My advice here is generally speaking for both scenarios.  There are always other things that could come up. In divorce you need to be certain as to who has tittle to the home.  Are they both still on it therefore needing both to sign the contract, has it been deeded  over to one spouse?  Does that spouse have to share in proceeds of the sale with the other?  Does one of them have a lien the other doesn’t know about?  You will still do your typical title search etc but sometimes one spouse can try to get over on another by agreeing to a deal with u without consent of the other.  In an inherited estate an executor is named. That person is named in the will and then affirmed in probate.  They handle the settlement of the estate based upon the deceased’s wishes if they had a will.  That can get tricky too so again you should have an attorney looking over all the paperwork to make sure it was done properly.

Thanks Tahra, that makes sense and sounds like is good advice to make sure the deal is protected. It does, however, add another step. Which now leaves me wondering how investors who promise things like "fast and easy, no hassle" closings follow through. Perhaps it's just part of doing business that a certain percentage of deals aren't going to be able to fit that mold.

I take it a lawyer who specializes in real estate transactions is best to go through for this type of due diligence?

Post: How do you Handle Non-standard Cash Deals?

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

I'm going to start sourcing my own leads and making cash offers on houses, but I have a knowledge gap that I'm looking to fill.  What kind of deal-halting complications can arise when a deal has legal issues? I'm thinking specifically of divorces and inherited properties. When a couple is getting divorced, is the transaction of a sale any different than if the couple were happily married? When a parent passes away and their children are trying to get rid of the house, who has the final say in actually selling the house? What kind of paperwork is needed to make sure the sale is legitimate? 

Please feel free to chime in if there's another situation worth noting.

Post: Wholesaling and FSBO

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

A phone call never hurts! Just dial em up and see if you can get an idea of what their situation is. If they're already prepped and will to sell retail then the deal's probably not for you.

Post: Buying 1st quadplex and needs electric upgrade

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

Hey @Steven Sather, congrats on the upcoming deal!

I think it depends on where you are in the purchase-process. It couldn't hurt to ask though, especially if you're in your due-diligence phase. I'd be surprised if the seller offered to pay for 50k of repairs, but you might get some sort of discount. 


Be sure to run the numbers again though, and make sure that the added 50k expense makes this deal still worth it for you!

Post: Change your Routine, Change your Business

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

All good advice @Rick Howell, enjoy an upvote!

I specifically find disconnecting from devices before bed time to be beneficial and would also add the practice of reducing one's digital intake. I've never been much of a social media user, but I've completely cut out social media activity that isn't real estate-related. As a result I feel incredibly focused and much more calm because I'm not thinking about things that just cloud my head.

Post: Can? and should I flip this house?

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97

@Andrey Budu I'll offer some things to consider based strictly off my opinion. 

First, if you are relying solely on the Zillow zestimate to assess the value of this property, I wouldn't. Zillow is only accurate to a certain degree, and here's what it looks like for Essex County, NJ:

What I gather from this is that the actual value of the property has roughly a 38% chance of being within 5% of the Zestimate. With this table aside though, I would be skeptical of the value because it's reported as a single family home. Using zillow to find out recent MFH sales in that area would give you a better idea in my opinion.

Second, why do you need to pay someone for proof of funds? Is that service also financing you? It's VERY possible that I just don't understand what you're using the service for, but it seems backwards to me. If you don't have the money to buy this house or don't have a partnership/loan lined up, then I don't see how you could offer proof of funds without it being fake. Maybe take the specifics of the deal to whomever you'd use to get the funds and have them give you some sort of proof of funds.

Post: Do lawn-care/snow removal myself or hire out?

Kyle ShankinPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Oakland County
  • Posts 151
  • Votes 97
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

Truck is obviously more manly.

 *Strokes beard, gives a hearty laugh and pounds a pint of Guinness* 

Indeed!

As I stare out my window at my own un-plowed driveway I'm battling the same thought right now. But I think Thomas S (and others with similar thoughts) are correct, it's all about your opportunity cost. If you want to do that kind of work that's fine, but it will take time away from finding other deals.