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All Forum Posts by: Krystan Menz

Krystan Menz has started 2 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: 2 Turnkey Cash Flow Properties. Property Management in Place

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6

@Jaycee Greene appreciate you thinking of me on this one!  

Post: Looking Out of State

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Krystan Menz

Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location to invest in.

Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?

Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.

The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

Both Property Class and Tenant Class affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies will work on a property.

If you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will rent it?

Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met and it may even be a financial disaster.

We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:

  • Property Tenant Pool: closely linked to location, but not always.
  • Property Location: closely linked to tenant pool, but not always.
  • Property Condition & Amenities: it’s important to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood.”

Key metrics for each Property Class:

Class A Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.

Class B Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
Tenant Default
: 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Vacancies
: 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.

Class C Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

Class D Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.

Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.

Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?

Check out this chart:

FICO Score

Pct of Population

Default Probability

800 or more

13.00%

1.00%

750-799

27.00%

1.00%

700-749

18.00%

4.40%

650-699

15.00%

8.90%

600-649

12.00%

15.80%

550-599

8.00%

22.50%

500-549

5.00%

28.40%

Less than 499

2.00%

41.00%

Source: Fair Isaac Company

Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

Metro Detroit has 132 cities, the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying. Check out the map on our website where we’ve made this all easy to follow.

We can also share numerous examples of properties & portfolios we’ve assisted investors with!

DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!


 Wow!  Really appreciate the detailed response and knowledge you gave me.  I am new to this, and that helped.  The breakdown of classes was something I had questions about, and you just made it a lot more clear for me.  thank you!

Post: Looking Out of State

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @James Wachob:

Hello @Krystan Menz

Memphis is definitely worth a look if you’re after turnkey rentals and want to build out a portfolio without taking on big rehab projects right out the gate. There’s still a lot of value here—affordable entry points and steady rental demand in the right areas.

I'm a Memphian and have been helping out-of-state investors find deals here for over 20 years. It’s a market that’s treated a lot of people well, especially when they’re focused on long-term, cash-flowing properties.

That said, the biggest thing I always tell folks is—your property manager matters just as much as the deal itself, maybe even more. A great PM will protect your investment, keep things running smoothly, and act like a real partner. A not-so-great one? Let’s just say even the best property won’t perform well if it’s not being taken care of.

If you’re curious about Memphis or want to talk through anything, feel free to reach out. Always happy to share what I know.

Best of luck as you get started!


Thank you so much for reaching out. Memphis is definitely on the list.  We have some friends in that area who work for FedEx.  Sounds like some great opportunities in that area.  

What areas of Memphis would you look into?  Which areas would you stay away from?  As far as PMs go, would there be one or two that you would recommend we reach out to and ask some questions?

Much appreciated! 

Post: Looking Out of State

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Patrick McCann:

Curious as to why out out state rather than say the Lewiston-Auburn area? 


Just looking, not ruling out Maine.  There are deals here, but exploring options elsewhere.  Southern Maine is ridiculous with Taxes. Most homes need work or cost too much to make the numbers work. 

Post: Areas in STL to invest

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6

@Jaycee Greene be completely honest, I am just starting the process and gathering information.  Don't know a lot about S8 housing other than that it's GOVT-assisted.  Our goal is to have a portfolio mix of cash flow and appreciating assets. Also looking in Memphis and KC, along with our home area (Maine).  But inventory and prices here are ridiculous.  

Post: Looking Out of State

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6

Good Afternoon BP!

What would be some markets you would suggest getting into, starting out? Looking for SFH to start and build a portfolio from there. We currently live in Maine, and the Market here is not great, not a lot of opportunities for what we are looking for. Currently looking for turnkey properties where we can learn without the hassle and worry of rehabbing out of state.

Thank you in advance for any and all advice!

Post: Areas in STL to invest

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6
Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
Quote from @Krystan Menz:

Hey Jayce thanks for replying!  We have spent alot of time in STL, but mostly in Webster Grove area.  We went to College in Mo, and was looking at that area to invest. We no nothing about northern STL. 

@Krystan Menz Out of curiosity, did you mean to say "Hi-Pointe" instead of "North Point"? Hi-Pointe is MUCH closer (geographically AND culturally) to Webster than North Point. While I wouldn't put too much stock in the absolute score, I know many OOS investors refer to a city's score on AreaVibes.com to compare different quality of life factors. Here's the link to North Point: https://www.areavibes.com/search-results/?st=mo&ct=st.+louis&hd=north+point&zip=&addr=&ll=38.71507+-90.24802.


 No, looking at North Pointe, north of STL.  Up by Jennings, Country Club Hills.  Webster and the surrounding area is just where we have been.  We see that the price for property is significantly lower than in the Webster area.  The address and location of the property being looked at is as follows.  I apologize if I'm confusing.  We have been to STL many times as visitors and love the area would like to invest in that area.  

Thank you for talking with me 



1546 Grape Ave, St. Louis, MO 63147

Post: Areas in STL to invest

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6

Hey Jayce thanks for replying!  We have spent alot of time in STL, but mostly in Webster Grove area.  We went to College in Mo, and was looking at that area to invest. We no nothing about northern STL. 

Post: Areas in STL to invest

Krystan MenzPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Bangor, Me
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 6

New to investing out of state and looking for help on where to start, we have been looking hard at STL.  

What areas would you suggest staying away from?

What areas are on the up and coming?

We were exploring the North Point area and considering long-term renting.

Any and all insight would be helpful! 

thanks