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All Forum Posts by: Kristi Charland

Kristi Charland has started 1 posts and replied 5 times.

Originally posted by @Juan Jackson:

It all boils down to your motivation to sell and getting max value based on the condition of the home. Selling to anyone you mentioned, will leave money on the table. They will make the investment in making the repairs. 

What I do for my clients is determine ARV minus the rehab cost to start. Then, if you are selling to an investor, you will have to consider their profit.

Hands down listing on the MLS will get you more offers and more money, but the condition will still be considered. MLS may not be convenient in all situations. I sell homes both off-market and through MLS based on my client's wishes.

Yeah, just not sure that's true in this case. We've run the numbers. If they make the repairs, and you factor in the additional mortgage, insurance and utility payments, they would be lucky to make an additional $5-10k versus getting out now through another option. And they'd only make that if it sold at the same price as current comps that sold in better times of the year and were more updated. 

Got an additional offer from Zillow today for $375,700, far higher than Opendoor or Offerpad. With the 10.5% fee it's at $335,875. We scheduled an inspection for  Saturday and they say will have the repair reduction figure by Tuesday. Zillow doesn't require you to sign any sort of agreement to the inspection and final offer.

Opendoor does require you to sign the purchase agreement before the inspection is scheduled. However, both buyer and seller have the right to terminate all the way up to the closing date. Scheduled that inspection for next Thursday. The plan is just to put all the possible offers on the table and then make a decision based on which one is best financially taking all factors into consideration.

Originally posted by @Adam Mraz:

Hi Kristi,

We have had multiple investors (we do property management) go the Offer Pad/Open Door route to avoid the need to do the repairs. Mostly they have ended up doing fairly similar to selling on MLS. This is Atlanta, which I think they have been overpaying a little but yours doesn't look that far off the market. Taking a middle of the market number of $360k on your sale price after renovation and a 6% real estate fee (pretty normal here, not sure about your market.), you are looking somewhere in the 340k range-60k in rehab is putting you around the 280k. Offer Pad hasn't been beating up the offer price as much as I think they could with their repair costs, so it is very possible that they could keep them in the 275k range. The extra holding and loan costs seem to make it not make sense. Not to mention the extra unknown with the time thrown in.

Even listing at 300k as-is with a realtor fee is going to be very similar unless the buyer covers that.  I would definitely have Offer Pad and Open Door both come out to get the final number.  You can still say no and it could save a lot of time and headache.  One of the investors could make the offer in the $275k-$285k range and you are still good.

Just my 2 cents.

My parents are in the Atlanta market, so that's helpful to know!  

Originally posted by @Chris T.:

Have your realtor checked the prices of the "as is" houses (needs work) listed in your area, and how long were they on the market?

The best way to get the highest offer is always to put on the MLS, and create a multiple bidding war.

You mentioned the comps of updated houses are between $330-$380K. If the as-is houses are listed $250-$300K, then 1 of those options you listed are probably the best solution. Perhaps have the buyer pay for ALL your parent's closing costs as well.

But if the as-is houses are listed $300K or above, then maybe listing it at $299K, as-is / investor's special, on the MLS may create a bidding situation.

There has only been one as-is sold around them in the last year. It sold for $247k and was about 800 square feet smaller. I actually found that investor and he has offered us $250k. Although I thought he bought it to flip, turns out he bought the other one to live in with his family. 

I'm currently trying to help my parents get out of their house. One had a heart attack, the other had cancer and they are ready to retire and downsize. They have a 3,900 sq ft, 4-sided brick house with a finished basement and in-ground pool in a desirable school district.

However, the house is in need of major repairs. The 500-750 sq ft deck needs to be rebuilt, the pool needs to be re-plastered, the house needs all new flooring and paint, new gutters and some exterior trim work. The house was built in 1983 and neither of the kitchen nor any of the bathrooms has been updated. 

Their realtor has suggested it would be at least $50-60,000 to make the suggested repairs (no updates to kitchen or bathrooms), which seems on par with our estimates, maybe even a little low. 

Comps in the neighborhood have been $330-380k this calendar year, but all of those houses have been updated. 

My dad retires mid-January, and my parents would like to be moved by mid-February. If they don't move by mid-February, they will be unable to move until June due to issues beyond our control with my mother's job (which she isn't leaving). They already own a second home that is paid for that they will be moving into.

Here are the options on the table so far: 

List with realtor: $50-60k in repairs, which will require my parents to take out a loan and cost time to complete. Suggested listing price $370-380k. We are having a difficult time believing they can get anywhere near that price based on the comps.

Sell to private investor: an investor recently purchased a house six stores down from them for $247k. It's about 800 square feet smaller, did not have a finished basement and no pool. We were hoping he would be interested in buying theirs somewhere between $275k and 300k based on the additional square footage and finished basement, because we knew the other house had been in worse shape. However, what we didn't know is that the investor bought that house for his own personal home and put more money into it than he would have for an investment. He has offered my parents $250k. 

We Buy Ugly Houses: offered $235k

Open Door: $339,400 - 9.5% fee = $307,082 (but would still need to do the inspection to determine the reduction for repairs)

Offer Pad: $332,012 - 7.5% fee = $297,861 (but would still need to do the inspection to determine the reduction for repairs)

We still have two other private investors coming to look at the house.

My parents are aware their best chance at maximizing their money is doing the repairs and listing with the realtor. However, it requires them taking out a loan and will extend their timeline for getting out of the house, which obviously results in added costs for continuing to pay the mortgage, insurance, utilities, etc. We also think the realtor is being far too optimistic with their estimate based on the comps, although it should still net my parents more money. 

I lean toward thinking they should let Open Door come do their inspection and find out how much they would ding them on the repairs. My parents would be happy to walk away at $275k, which gives room for Open Door to knock off a good chunk from their current offer. It would also allow them to get out on their February timeline, saving them additional mortgage, insurance and utility expenses. And it avoids having to take out a loan for repairs or go through the headache of getting estimates and having people in the house working.

I want to help them make the best decision possible. I'm a former real estate attorney who previously worked with investors on flips involving affordable housing and historic preservation tax credits, so I think I understand enough to be helpful. However, I'm wondering if I'm overlooking anything else we should be considering. 

Thank you in advance for any advice!