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All Forum Posts by: Kristian Wheatley

Kristian Wheatley has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Quote from @John Clark:

A condo will put you at the mercy of a condo board, which may not allow renting out, or there may be too many renters to allow additional renters, or whatever. That means you could be stuck with a slow-appreciation, expensive, unit that you cannot unload.

How about looking at a duplex? Live in one unit, rent out the other. Just one tenant (who you must thoroughly screen -- no glad-handers or drama queens) and see if you like being a landlord. After a few years see how you like the life and move on from there.

It's not important to get big fast. It's important to start.


 Hi thanks for the response!

I was actually looking for multiunits in the beginning but I was hesitant about living in the areas in which I'd be able to afford one. To start I did end up purchasing a condo in East Woodlawn last year. My property value has already increased substantially and I was able to join the HOA board for this building. I'm also renting out my spare room and bathroom so it's been a pretty good deal so far. My next purchase will absolutely be a multiunit or something more targeted at generating extra income. My current situation isn't making me much profit but I am able to live somewhere for little to nothing and save up for the next purchase.

Quote from @John Warren:

@Kristian Wheatley I would get to know the folks on the block where you are looking. Be very intentional about your neighbors as much as possible. Lots of good neighbors tend to drive crime away, and if you are on a solid block where the neighbors are watching out for you then you should be fine. 


 Thanks for the reply! I will absolutely be taking this advice moving forward. I actually ended up purchasing a condo in East woodlawn last year. My people in my community have turned out to be great and I was able to join the board. The next purchase will absolutely be bigger. 

I've been searching for my first property and I decided to start with a condo in Chicago. I found a place that isn't perfect but has a lot of potential and is in an AMAZING location. When walking into the building I did notice a few things in the hallway of the building. The court way was beautiful and the doors on the units were brand new but once I entered the door to the hallway the unit im interested in I saw peeling paint, the carpet in the hallways was a bit gross, the stairs weren't perfect under the carpet, there was a bug glue trap in front of a couple of the doors and in the unit itself there was a mouse trap in the closet with the furnace. Are these red flags or easy fixes? Are there things I should consider before purchasing a condo?

Originally posted by @Frank Posluszny:

@Kristian Wheatley

Just my 2 cents but I would ask if there are specific reasons that you chose south shore that might include distance from downtown for a job or maybe the lake etc. I live in los angeles but I'm seeking investment property in that area since I grew up in Chicago and I go home every year to try to visit family and catch a Cubs game. If distance isn't a huge issue, you might be able to look into indiana near gary (or nearby cities) so you could possibly get more for your money and lower taxes. My understanding is that Gary is coming out of the hole they were in for years as many people from Chicagoland are relocating and bringing up values. My actual advice on the area you're looking at south shore (since you want to live there) might be to do your research and if it feels like a good purchase, don't be afraid to pull the trigger. Waiting for the "perfect" deal could cost a lot of great deals.

Just my 2 cents and I hope it doesn't add confusion

Hi Frank, 

My reasoning for picking the area are: the upcoming developments that have been planned for the area (I'm counting on the value of whatever property I purchase increasing), its proximity to the lake and trails (which is good for me because I ride a bike and a longboard in the summers as well as for future buyers), the accessibility to lake shore drive ( I work in Lincoln Square and Lake Shore Drive makes getting north extremely painless), and the overall beauty of the area. If you take away the crime South Shore is absolutely beautiful and in purchasing in the area, I'm counting on the area seeing a big turn around within the next decade, hopefully sooner. It's funny you mention it because I actually did check out a couple of places in and near Indiana, Hammond specifically and I'm just more drawn to the city. 

Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @Kristian Wheatley:

Hi,

I'm a new investor looking to get my first property. Ive lived in South shore before as I'm from the south side of Chicago but not since I've been an adult. In my experience South Shore is block for block meaning some blocks are nice and the next, not so much. Im also aware of the plans to improve the area but im still weary to purchase and live in the area. Im am seeking to buy on the 68th block one block from South shore drive and one block from the golf course. Im planning to live in whatever unit I purchase for a couple of years. Is this a wise decision or will I be buying into a crime-ridden area that won't see any real change for years to come? Id like to buy this property assuming that the value will increase with time. I would really appreciate any options on this topic. 

You're right about the South Shore. It has been a block by block thing for a number of years, but here's the bottom line regarding the trends and numbers for the area. Over the last 3 years, there's been a 28.7% growth in the median sale price of small multifamilies. Average market times which use to be high have come down & now match up with the rest of Chicagoland.  The challenge is supply-Where there use to be more supply than on average compared to the rest of Chicago, now there's less supply. What this all means is more competition that will drive up prices. Rents are now going up as fast as the property prices, but the prices are still low enough that right now you can find deals that will cash flow nicely.

Do not limit yourself to the 68th block. While you're looking for an opportunity on that block you'll miss out on other opportunities. Also, consider this- If you're objective is to build wealth by starting out living in a property, you do not have to live there forever. Purchase on the right block. Modify the property if you have to to protect your asset if required. Live there for a year then find another property and do it all over again. 

Thank you so much for this! I have been looking all over south shore for the past few weeks and missing out on deals left and right because as you said it is very competitive right now. I was wonder if you have an idea of how far into the area improvements will take place? I have been seeing a lot of properties towards the end of south shore, with the same proximity to the lake front if not closer but a bit further from the golf courses and upcoming presidential center, more towards 79th street. Will properties in this area be worth the investment or is that too far to see the change that the rest of the area will be seeing? 

Originally posted by @Mark Ainley:

@Kristian Wheatley There is no better area in South Shore and in top 5 areas in all of south side then Jackson Highlands.  Good luck.

Do you feel that the Jackson Park Highlands is the only area in South Shore worth the investment? I was thinking of south shore for my first purchase because I know they have development plans for the area.  So, I'm assumming that the value of my property should increase but if not all of south shore is worth investing in would looking in more northward neighborhoods that are already developed be a better idea? 

@Jonathan Klemm Thanks for responding! This has helped to solidify my decision to purchase in the area and to be more confident in my research. I would appreciate as many outside opinions of people in the field as possible. 

I am thinking of starting with a condo since this is my first purchase and eventually moving on to multifamily. Thanks for the reference. 

Hi,

I'm a new investor looking to get my first property. Ive lived in South shore before as I'm from the south side of Chicago but not since I've been an adult. In my experience South Shore is block for block meaning some blocks are nice and the next, not so much. Im also aware of the plans to improve the area but im still weary to purchase and live in the area. Im am seeking to buy on the 68th block one block from South shore drive and one block from the golf course. Im planning to live in whatever unit I purchase for a couple of years. Is this a wise decision or will I be buying into a crime-ridden area that won't see any real change for years to come? Id like to buy this property assuming that the value will increase with time. I would really appreciate any options on this topic.