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All Forum Posts by: Kristian Clemens

Kristian Clemens has started 1 posts and replied 12 times.

@Rebecca Knox That's really good to know- I've learned that one can get contractor recommendations from a good property manager, but it seems even simpler if the property manager could also double as a contractor. I've heard of both of those companies, so I'll have to research them to see if they could be good options. Thanks for your advice!

@Sonya Mays Thank you for the kind words of encouragement! It's a little strange- I don't consider myself a perfectionist at all, but I definitely feel that fear of the unknown. Taking things one step at a time will definitely help alleviate that feeling when I do start looking for a property in earnest. I think you're right: working with a trusted local will give me a lot of peace of mind, so I'll definitely prioritize that when the time comes.

@Brock Mogensen Great idea- one of the aspects of real estate that isn't crystal clear is what we called "the order of operations" many years ago in school. I think that I'll start by getting prequalified by a bank for a loan, then work on finding a good investor-friendly agent, and then find a good property manager who knows the area as well as I know my hometown. 

@Joshua McMillion @Laura Rolerat I heard about that company (not directly by name) in one of the BP podcasts a few weeks ago. When I looked them up, they seemed to have universally positive reviews. I'm sure they have a waiting list a mile long, but I'd love to work with them when the time comes!

@Mike D'Arrigo
This is really helpful, and I appreciate your taking the time to write it out so clearly. I haven't heard it yet, but I'm expecting to start hearing "you're crazy, don't even think about investing out of state" from relatives and friends any minute now, so it's great to hear something more constructive.

I'm currently leaning toward Milwaukee for two reasons. One is the seeming abundance of properties that appear to provide the kind of cash flow that I'm looking for ($150 per month per unit and 15% cash on cash return), although I know I have to do a lot more work if I actually start purchasing any of these properties. The other is that I have a competitive advantage there- one of my good friends from high school lives there and walks 6 miles to/from work every day, so I can get honest opinions about neighborhoods without having to get on a plane (as I see my 91-year old grandfather every week, a plane trip is a risk I'm not currently willing to take). Demographic trends and property taxes would be my biggest worries right now. Having said that, I definitely have not "chosen" a market.

To make a long story short, your point about looking at other markets and considering the specific criteria that make a good market is well taken. I'll certainly consider Indianapolis and Kansas City as well. Thank you for your feedback!

Originally posted by @Mike D'Arrigo:

@Kristian Clemens the first thing to do is very clearly and quantitatively define your goals and objectives. This will help you identify the market that will best help you achieve your goals. There are a lot of good investment markets so don't limit yourself on any particular one until you have identified all your options. Don't become biased toward any particular market until you've done some research. Milwaukee could very well be a good market for you but ask yourself why it's your leading candidate. How does it stack up against other markets. Since you're already investing out of state, you have an opportunity to invest in whatever market fits your objectives and criteria best. Look for strong economic and demographic trends such as growing populations and jobs with a diverse, modern economy. Next look for markets with low taxes and insurance rates. Taxes are your largest single operating expense (Wisconsin has pretty high taxes. The look at markets that are landlord friendly (Wisconsin is fairly landlord friendly) If cash flow is your primary goal, I would add Indianapolis and Kansas City to your short list.

@Lynn T. Thank you for the encouragement and for the reminder that it's more important to get a good deal than to wait around forever for a perfect deal!

@Steve Rozenberg I had heard about "starting with the end in mind", but the finite time limit and the way you broke it down in the second paragraph were a revelation for me. My goal is to buy 1 property by the end of 2021 with cash flow of $150+ per unit and a cash-on-cash return of 15% (although I've been cautioned not to become too inflexible with those numbers). I am a very numbers-oriented person, and having those numbers in the back of my head will keep me on track and prevent me from the dreaded "shiny object syndrome" that we millennials frequently suffer from.

If it doesn't go well, I have a good job at a great company, and I enjoy investing in the stock market, so I have a fallback option and am not afraid of failure at all. If it goes as planned, I would like to buy 10 such properties within 5 years... and then start paying them off with the "snowball" strategy that paid off my student loans 5 years ago.

By the way, I'm a big fan of the long-distance BRRRR video/article series that you did with your mentee Joe a few months ago. For newbies like me, breaking things down step by step and identifying specific actions to take can be really valuable. If I decide to graduate to more ambitious long-distance projects, I'll go through that series a few more times. Your advice definitely helps, and I appreciate it!

@Brian Garlington Great advice- that's exactly what I plan to do first. My parents convinced me to get a credit card when I went off to college, so I'm fortunate enough to have very solid credit and a 10 year history. This is the one part of the process that I feel most confident about right now.

@Brian Noth Thank you for the encouragement! As I mentioned, it may be a few months, but I am looking forward to taking action and getting off the sidelines. I looked at and researched apartments for an entire year before I rented my first one, so I have no problem being patient, but if all goes well, I will have an update (positive or otherwise) by the end of 2021!

Originally posted by @Aj Parikh:

I also read the Long Distance Real Estate Investing by David Greene before I purchased my 1st turnkey property in Cleveland, OH. I felt that turnkey was the easiest way to get started if you have a 9-5 pm job that keeps you busy. Also, I read a lot about Martel Turnkey and I felt that their model was very transparent for rookie investors like us so I connected with them and was able to close on my 1st out of state rental. Let me know if you want to connect and chat about the purchase process. 

@Aj Parikh That book was great, but I think I'll need to read it one more time to get all the information. That describes me exactly- I have a full-time job and don't want to make real estate a second job, but I also don't want to use my job and life as an excuse for inaction! I'll have to check out various turnkey providers, as well as looking into properties that require very little work to be rent-ready, as I want my first experience to be as positive as reasonably possible. I am always interested in getting more knowledge and being better prepared, so I would love to take you up on that offer if you are willing!