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All Forum Posts by: Kole Kingslien

Kole Kingslien has started 36 posts and replied 98 times.

Post: The Flow of Money in relation to Rental Properties

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

@Thomas, thanks for the input!  Wouldn't creating a new account get difficult to track once you have 20+ properties?

Post: The Flow of Money in relation to Rental Properties

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

Hello BiggerPockets community,

I have titled this post "The Flow of Money", so it does not get confused with the term "Cash Flow". I have just purchased my first rental property, and am trying to understand how the money is going to flow from one place to another. In the case of my first property, I have decided to not set up an LLC, I will do this once I obtain 1 or 2 more in the future, but right now I want to try to keep it simple; Here are some of the questions I have:

When I receive my rent checks, how does the cash flow get to my personal bank account, where I have freedom to spend it?

Should I set up another checking and saving account specifically for this rental? I do not have an LLC so this would still be a personal bank account. should it be through a separate bank, or my personal bank?

If it do set up a separate account for this property, can I have the mortgage payment directly drawn from this account?

What do I do when tax time comes, and will they define my taxable income differently that what I have determined my cash flow to be?

Where do I keep the security deposit and repair funds?

Should I open up a new checking and savings account with each new property (this seems like it would be very hard to keep track of all these different accounts). 

How do I pay myself?

Should I pay myself monthly, or yearly? 

When I do form an LLC, how will all this change, and is it more complicated?

I would greatly appreciate any help I could get in understanding this idea of "The Flow of Money". Thanks in advance!

Kole

Post: Beloit Wisconsin Water and Sewer Costs

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

@Chris Heeren, @Chad Nagel, @Kathy Mcguigan, @Brian Klean,

Thanks for the help guys! I take it that it's normal for the landlord to pay the water and sewer in the Beloit market? It's great to see that there are many like minded investors in my area; I am new to this, and very motivated to reach my goals, and it's encouraging to know that there are others in the area!

Post: Beloit Wisconsin Water and Sewer Costs

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

Hello everyone, we just purchased our first rental property in Beloit WI, a 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom. We want include water and sewer in the rent, and were wondering if anyone knew the average bill amount is?

Thank you, 

Kole

Post: How to get a second loan?

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

@April Chim, I'm glad you asked this question, as it is a question I also had when getting started (I'm still a rookie, so bear with me lol).

There are many possibles ways to approach real estate with little to no money, but be warned, they will most likely require more time, effort, and creativity, than traditional methods. In essence, instead of using money to get started, you will have to use hustle, time, and creativity, Trading one for the other. 

One option is avoiding banks all together, AKA seller financing. Like I said much harder to come by, which means harder work to find. For this method you will need to find someone who owns their free and clear, and is willing to carry the note. This means they will act as the bank, and you will pay them monthly principle and interest payments, just like you would to a bank, and you get the title of the property in your name. The reason people can be swayed into doing this, is because you can explain to them that this option would spread out their taxes, they stay ahead of inflation, and the get a passive monthly income, without any responsibilities, not to mention they end up making way more than what they are selling the property for. Let me use numbers to explain: 

In scenario 1, they sell the property to you for $100,000, using traditional financing. They will have to pay around 6% in commissions to the agents, and also capital gains taxes (I believe it is around 30%, either way it is large, and they will have to pay it.), not to mention any closing costs they will have, I'll use $1,000 for this example. With these numbers they will end up selling for $100,000, but after all expenses and taxes, they will end up with $63,000 profit, that's a $37,000 expense!

However, you will present them with option 2, in which they will carry the note for 30yrs, at 6% compound interest, with no down payment, the number will look like this:

You will pay them $599.55/month for 30 yrs. Which means, they will make a total of $215,838.45 on the sale, over $100,000 more, and they will not have to worry about paying property taxes, insurance, doing maintenance, dealing with tenants and evictions, and so on. They will also be able to spread out the taxes from the sale over a longer period of time, instead of paying them all at once, and possibly at a smaller taxable %! As you can see both parties can greatly benefit. 

This is just one out of many methods you could use, other options include land contracts, private money lenders, partnerships, seller financing with a balloon payment, and so on. Remember, this is  about being creative, so the possibilities are endless. You will also have to use creative methods for finding these deals, you will likely not find them on the MLS. I think driving for dollars is a great way to go. Drive neighborhoods, look for houses that seem to be in distress, or vacant, write down the addresses, go home and look them up of the county assessors website in order to obtain the owners mailing address, and send them a letter asking if they want to sell, and let them know you might be able to help them. Again this is just one out of many methods of finding these deals, I believe the most important way to find deals and good opportunities, is to network as much as possible. 

I highly recommend you read the book 'Investing in Real Estate with Little to No Money Down'. When you are using creativity instead of money, you will need to "fill your toolbox", meaning read and educate yourself, so when you come across a potential opportunity, you will be able to present creative options to a seller, according to their particular situation. 

I hope that this information helps you, and that you will be able to find the deals you are looking for! If you have any questions, feel free to ask! Good Luck!        

@Ray Thorsen,  you could try American Mortgage Equity Consultants, Inc. It is a lender out of Madison that I found some favorable terms with, potentially 15% on an investment loan, and they might be able to wrap in the repair loan as well, Josh Nelson, you can find his info online. I don't know if they will be able to open the line of credit through your property though, for that, maybe try looking up southern WI portfolio lenders, I'm not sure if they could do something like that, but that's what I would try, if anything else, try asking for a sales manager, they should be able to point you in the right direction, they will be pretty use to working with investors and may have the answer to your question. 

Good Luck!

Kole

I have little experience,  but you should be able to open a line of credit against the property.  I would call your bank and ask them.  If it doesn't work out with them,  call a few more banks and ask. 

Best of luck!

Post: Looking to purchase in Milwaukee

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

Thanks @Tyler Smith! We didn't make it to Milwaukee last weekend, we had a family matter come up, but I hope to make it out there soon, so I can check out some neighborhoods. I will let you know if any questions come up.

Post: Making Offers on Properties

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

Hey guys, I was wondering how do all of you submit your offers to purchase a property? I am curious about all scenarios, and specifically when offering on MLS/Zillow properties. I take it that most realtors don't want to waste a bunch of time submitting low-ball offers, or chasing cheap distressed properties. What are some of the things that you guys do? Excited to hear all the different strategies!

Post: Questions about Due Diligence

Kole KingslienPosted
  • Investor
  • Evansille, WI
  • Posts 105
  • Votes 29

Hey guys, I am having trouble understanding what what exactly goes into the due diligence process  of a property. What do you guys do for your personal due diligence and where do you start? I there some sort of checklist you follow as a guideline? What is the actionable process? Is it different based on the different types of properties? What is the most important information you are after, and how do you get it?

Thanks for your help guys!