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All Forum Posts by: Kingston Yi

Kingston Yi has started 4 posts and replied 16 times.

Q:  What about funding the property itself, I recently heard that SDIRA's are hard to get loans on, I was just thinking of using my 401k for a down payment on an investment property (20-25% down)

Okay, so to sum it up; 

1. Create a separate LLC (per the IRA, e.g. Invest SDIRA LLC)

2.  File with the State and hold operating agreement as the mgr.

3. Open Biz Chk Acct. under name of IRA

4. Establish an IRA Acct. w/alt. assets(?)

5,  Rollover your old employer 401K. 

6. Once the IRA account has been opened and funded bring the operating agreement of the LLC to custodian and fill out a purchase authorization

7. The custodian will move the funds from your IRA into the LLC biz checking account to have "checkbook control"

Sound about right?  This is awesome feedback and thank you!!! 

Quote from @Jeffrey Dixon:

Money from an old 401k can be moved to an IRA. You want a self-directed IRA that allows the purchase of rental properties. Many brokerage firms say they offer self-directed accounts, but when you ask about real estate, they will not hold that type of asset. You may find using an IRA owned LLC to be an easier path to buying and holding the property.


So, should I start a new LLC for this IRA or use an existing? Does the LLC secure the funds vs. the IRA brokerage? So they would probably take more funding when the property sells too?

Quote from @Tabitha Lee Choma:
Quote from @Kingston Yi:
Quote from @Tabitha Lee Choma:

It's a simple process. First you would establish an IRA with a custodian that allows for alternative assets and complete a rollover form. The custodian would provide some delivery instructions, you contact your plan admin of the 401k to let them know you're rolling over and provide the delivery instructions and they will send the funds- about 7-10 business days for processing. Find the real estate deal you want to invest in and bring the contract to your new custodian where they will have you fill out a purchase authorization and sign the contract on behalf of your IRA. Your IRA will be listed as the owner on the deed.

Not tax implications for rolling over to another qualified account.

awesome, good feedback and wondering why a "custodial" it says for children while searching online


IRA custodians also offer "custodial accounts." These are different and wouldn't relate to what you're looking to do.

When searching for an IRA custodian look for a custodian that allows for alternative assets.

Gotcha, "alternative assets" sounds like the keywords when searching for custodian

Quote from @Christie Gahan:

One big difference between owning real estate in a retirement account and owning it in your own name ?  Taxes!  The tax strategy is completely different.  The retirement account offers no write offs or deductions.  Do not underwrite these deals with the same criteria as you would for something you would own in your own name!  All expenses must be paid from retirement funds. ( You can't use any personal funds or credit cards to pay bills on the rental).  All profits must be deposited to retirement funds.  You must run this as a completely seperate business.  This is where the word "custodian" comes in.  In this case, the word custodian does not mean anything about children.  When you open your SDIRA or SD401k ... you use a company that will create a custodial account.  They are going to "see" every transaction and this keeps the IRS happy.  

  1. Open custodial account

   2. Transfer funds from retirement account

   3. New custodial retirement account buys real estate via pay cash or non recourse loan

    4.  All income and expenses go thru this custodial retirement account.  Note: you can Never hire a parent, sibling, child,grand child or yourself to work on the property and none of these people can live in the property.

    5. When you reach retirement age , you can access the funds.


 Thanks Christie!  That is a HUGE Caveat and something I really need to ponder in terms of an "investment" property...so you cannot sell it and keep the funds, it must stay in the retirement account either way?!  It IS much better to do than have it sit there in my 401k though, so I'm definitely going to give it a try

Quote from @Todd Goedeke:

@Kingston Yi move it into a Solo 401k instead of an IRA. No UBTI in a Solo401k.


 Any rec's in CA for a solo 401k ?  Thank You Todd

Quote from @Jack Malpass:

Hi Kingston,

Is this an old 401k plan from a previous employer?


 Yes, previous employer

Quote from @Tabitha Lee Choma:

It's a simple process. First you would establish an IRA with a custodian that allows for alternative assets and complete a rollover form. The custodian would provide some delivery instructions, you contact your plan admin of the 401k to let them know you're rolling over and provide the delivery instructions and they will send the funds- about 7-10 business days for processing. Find the real estate deal you want to invest in and bring the contract to your new custodian where they will have you fill out a purchase authorization and sign the contract on behalf of your IRA. Your IRA will be listed as the owner on the deed.

Not tax implications for rolling over to another qualified account.

awesome, good feedback and wondering why a "custodial" it says for children while searching online


Quote from @Jack Malpass:

Hi Kingston,

Is this an old 401k plan from a previous employer?


 Yes, previous employer

Rec's would be welcomed, kingstonyi @ nestseekers . com