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Post: Experienced Landlord Looking to Buy Notes from Banks – First Steps?

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Quote from @Tony Christian:
Quote from @Rob K.:
Only real success I had with buying from a bank was when I had to foreclose on a second during the great recession and a bank held the first which I brought current. FDIC then seized the bank holding the first and sold the banks assets to US bank. Tried to get them to modify but they were not interested. When I offered to buy the first at a discount they were all about getting a low ball appraisal and selling at a discount and getting reimbursed through their loss share agreement with the FDIC.
So really the only time you were able to get something done with a bank was when the FDIC was involved, and even then it wasn’t much of a win on your side. That tells me not to expect too much cooperation from banks in today’s market.
Post: Experienced Landlord Looking to Buy Notes from Banks – First Steps?

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Only real success I had with buying from a bank was when I had to foreclose on a second during the great recession and a bank held the first which I brought current. FDIC then seized the bank holding the first and sold the banks assets to US bank. Tried to get them to modify but they were not interested. When I offered to buy the first at a discount they were all about getting a low ball appraisal and selling at a discount and getting reimbursed through their loss share agreement with the FDIC.
Post: Umbrella insurance enough or LLC(s) necessary? See our scenario...

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Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Ray Heraldo:
Background: Our primary residence is in California. We have several long term rental properties in Utah. We recently purchase an STR in Florida. The 2 primary concerns, 1) asset protection, 2) transferring properties into our living trust.
Questions:
1) Is umbrella insurance enough or with multiple properties across states, LLC(s) is advised?
2) If yes, LLC is needed, how to structure? My initial thought was to have separate LLCs, one for Utah properties and another for the FL property. Or, is it enough to have a single LLC for ALL properties?
Thanks in advance,
Ray
I’ll tell you what I do
1. I obtain the best and highest amount of insurance I can that’s reasonably priced - which is getting more difficult. However, there could be huge differences in rates between different insurers. I check it every renewal.
2. I “own” a “series LLC”, Texas residency. Each property or note I own is in a separate series of the LLC. One formation fee, one annual form to submit, no franchise tax, and each asset is protected from liability arising from any other asset, and no liability arising from any asset flows to me personally.
There are a number of issues to contend with. If a property is owned in an individuals name, and has a mortgage, then a transfer to an LLC, even one controlled by the property owner, is a violation of the mortgage or deed of trust covenants (due on sale clause). If a property buyer wants to purchase a property in an LLC, even if they personally guarantee the note they will be eliminating a number of low cost financing alternatives that will only lend to individuals in their name.
If the property in question is the owners personal residence, then ownership in an LLC may negate homestead law protections and tax reductions, as well as negate bankruptcy state homestead exemptions.
Not all states recognize SERIES LLCs, and in some states series LLC case law is not well established.
While insurance companies strive to “play fair” with consumer/personal residence claims, they consider investment property claims fair game to issue blanket claim denials until the insured hires legal counsel.
California is happy to recognize Series LLCs from other states. They just want a minimum $800 annual franchise fee for each series doing business within the state.
https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/business/types/limited-liability...
Post: This happened to me and hit me hard!

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There used to be a thrift shop across the street from my multi-family. For a while I would just move over left over furniture, clothing, etc that was in decent shape and place it there on consignment. Every once in a while I would stop by to pick up a little bit of cash, but then the thrift shop moved.
Post: How many people do actually really live 100% off rental cash flow?

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Quote from @Marcus Auerbach:
That's the big dream: passive income, property management, no alarm clock, no office to go to. Gone fishing on a Tuesday.
I wonder how many people have gotten to the point where they actually live that dream? Or do you still work on something, while your RE portfolio is doing it's thing?
There is the financial side of it: at what point can you afford it not to work and basically retire based on passiv income? How much equity does it take (I think a better metric than # of doors)? And how do you handle large capex like new roofs or kitchens?
And then there is the mental aspect: are you actually satisfied with what you have built. Do you feel content to just leave it at that and stop growing something? Or do you still feel the itch to build?
I think a lot of investors are entrepreneurs at heart and not happy when they can't work their butt off. This is exactly the trait that let them hustle relentlessly when they built their portfolio in the first place. Can you just stop and go fishing?
I started investing in real estate rentals about 32 years ago. I now have 21 San Diego county rental units with my last mortgage paid off about 2 years ago. It was not so much a plan I started then, but more of an evolution. It started when my wife and I decided to hold on to the condos we each lived in before buying our primary shortly after we got married. Picking up some properties cheap during the 2008-11 financial crisis helped. For most of my life I was busy with a professional career while slowly growing my real estate portfolio and equity. Some of my guiding principals that got me to this point:
1) Buy and hold for the long term in good areas. I have rarely sold anything and never done a 1031 exchange. Not having frequent transaction costs in and out helps in the long run.
2) Any refinance I have done has reduced my rate and shortened, not extended my loan term. Aside from using credit lines on my rentals for other investments (when they were cheap and more readily available) I have never taken cash out on a refinance.
3) I have never planned to rely solely on rental income to pay life's expenses, but over the long term, as mortgages have paid off, positive rental income has improved dramatically to the point where rentals do more than cover my family's expenses.
4) The idea of dead equity used to bother me, but I came to learn to accept and embrace it. It's there to utilize if I need it, but I don't think I will need to. I don't have any credit lines on my properties currently.
5) Real estate is a people business. Treat it as a business and treat your tenants and vendors fairly. Address any situation to avoid a build up of resentment if possible. Your good reputation pays back dividends and makes the real estate journey easier.
Post: What Was Your Real Estate “Breakthrough” Moment?

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In 1993, when my wife and I purchased a new house, deciding to keep the condos we each owned as rentals instead of selling them.
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Michael Carbonare:
𝐇𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐅𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠. 𝐀𝐫𝐞 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐒𝐭𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐖𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠?
For the first time in over 2 years, home prices in the top 20 U.S. markets are declining.
That “perfect time” you’ve been waiting for? It's here.
Markets like San Diego, Portland, and Phoenix are already seeing drops — and more are expected to follow.
Here’s what that means for you:
Motivated sellers
More negotiable deals
Prime opportunities for creative strategies. Sure, cash on hand makes things easier. But you don't need deep pockets and an 800 FICO.
But many new investors? Stuck. Scared. Watching.
If you've been sitting on the sidelines, unsure how to start, this market shift is your invitation in. There are many members here on BP that are happy to share their experience and know how. You only need to ask.
Not sure of the source of San Diego property values dropping or national values dropping significantly but I reference likely the most respected price home price index that exists, the case Shiller index. I suspect some less regarded index may show different results, but may as well as use the gold standard.
Case Shiller shows both San Diego and nationally to be up month over month and YOY.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?rid=199&eid=2...
Nothing to see here.
best wishes
Case Schiller may have been the gold standard when it was first developed in the early 1990s and for a while thereafter, but IMHO, it is likely no longer the gold standard as it has not really changed much since its original methodology and since it was sold to S & P. Other companies such as Zillow are incorporating much larger more modern data bases and are arguably more accurate and up to date. Case Schiller does lag, the most recent publication with its index updated through March. It does not capture what appears to be recent changes in inventory levels and the effect that may have.
By assigning index values to the 20 cities it follows instead of breaking down dollar values, it does not have any nuance between movement in upper tiers vs. lower tiers, etc. It is arguably falling behind by not keeping up with more modern data collection methods.
Post: Why Novation Are Better Than Wholesaling

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Quote from @Dawson Brewer:
Here’s why I’ve started using novations over wholesaling.
1. Sellers Get More Money
With wholesaling, sellers often need to take a low cash offer. With novations, I can offer closer to market value by selling to retail buyers, making it easier to get deals accepted.
2. Bigger Assignment Fees
Instead of selling to investors looking for steep discounts, I market to end buyers willing to pay market price. This means I make more per deal than a typical wholesale assignment.
3. No Double Closings or Hard Money
Since the seller stays on title, I don’t have to use hard money or worry about double closing fees. I just facilitate the sale and collect my fee at closing.
4. More Buyers, Less Competition
Wholesaling relies on a limited pool of cash buyers. Novations open up the MLS and conventional financing, bringing in a larger pool of buyers and reducing competition from other wholesalers.
5. Easier to Scale
With less reliance on deep-discount deals and cash buyers, I can scale novations faster than traditional wholesaling.
Final Thoughts
I’m not saying wholesaling is dead, but novations have helped me close deals I would’ve lost before. Anyone else using novations? What’s been your experience?
I'm not understanding the use of the term Novation as used by the poster and why it is different from just an assignment of an existing contract. In legal terms a Novation is generally a new agreement with different terms or different parties that is a substitute for an earlier agreement that is then extinguished with the consent of all parties.
If someone could explain the structure of a novation as used in the OP's original post, it might make this discussion clearer. FYI, I do not watch you tube videos or guru stuff, so maybe I am missing some context here.
Post: Need Help Analyzing a Potential Deal – Complicated But Could Be Life-Changing

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Given the permitting and repair issues, you could offer to make a reasonable down payment, enough to at least pay off their HELOC and ask them to seller finance the rest of your purchase price. If the plan is to get everything repaired and permitted, you could tell them it does not qualify for conventional financing and advise them your plan is to fix it up, get it permitted, and then refinance them out. You need to put together a budget for needed repairs and permitting and obviously you will need to be the judge of your own ability and willingness to take on that task as well as set a reasonable time frame.
With the trust, there should be a trustee or trustees in place. Probably the grandson. That is who you would be dealing with, has authority to act, and who would be signing the deed. Let the title insurance company sort out the trust issues. You just need to get title insurance as part of the purchase.
I agee, don't sell your rental or primary if possible.
Post: How to Achieve Financial Freedom with Rental Properties

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So I started investing in real estate rentals about 32 years ago. I now have 21 rental units with my last mortgage paid off about 2 years ago. It was not so much a plan I started then, but more of an evolution. It started when my wife and I decided to hold on to the condos we each lived in before buying our primary shortly after we got married. Picking up some properties cheap during the 2008-11 financial crisis helped. For most of my life I was busy with a professional career while slowly growing my real estate portfolio. Some of my guiding principals that got me to this point:
1) Buy and hold for the long term in good areas. I have rarely sold anything and never done a 1031 exchange. Not having frequent transaction costs in and out helps in the long run.
2) Any refinance I have done has reduced my rate and shortened, not extended my loan term. Aside from using credit lines on my rentals for other investments (when they were cheap and more readily available) I have never taken cash out on a refinance.
3) I have never planned to rely solely on rental income to pay life's expenses, but over the long term, as mortgages have paid off, positive rental income has improved dramatically to the point where rentals do more than cover my family's expenses.
4) The idea of dead equity used to bother me, but I came to learn to accept and embrace it. Its there to utilize if I need it, but I don't think I will ever need to. I don't have any credit lines on my properties currently.
5) Real estate is a people business. Treat it as a business and treat your tenants and vendors fairly. Address any situation to avoid a build up of resentment if possible. Your good reputation pays back dividends and makes the real estate journey easier.
Not everyone has the mentality and fortitude to be an effective landlord. I am able to do it but it became evident early on that my wife was not cut out for it.