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All Forum Posts by: Tammy Richards

Tammy Richards has started 6 posts and replied 57 times.

Post: Owner financing, analyze this dea

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

Hi Jason,

I am not nearly as experienced as many on BP.  I have only owned a few buildings, including two multi -units, one was in Portland that I sold right before the 2008 crash.  So I know the peninsula fairly well.  So I'm going to be the Debbie Downer here, because I'm an older, cynical woman with more than a few tenant/contractor stories in the Portland area.  

To start with, here are a few questions - because I'm not sure of your strategy.  What is your intention in buying the building?

Are you planning on a buy and hold?  If so, what do your numbers look like now considering financing and expenses (more on that below).  What will your numbers look like over time?  Are you anticipating rent increases?  Expense increases? Will this building make you money or cost you money?

Are you going to live in and renovate?  If so, do you like the neighborhood?  Do you like renovating?  Do you like living in an apartment while you are renovating?  Do you like living in an apartment while renovating surrounded by tenants? (I actually did this in Portland, and liked it, but it's not for everyone)

Are you planning on selling  in a few years because you are hoping it will increase in value and/or you will make it more valuable through improvements?  If so, will the neighborhood support his?  I don't know exactly the area of the building, but if it's near Maine Med, but I would not count on appreciation.  It's definitely improved over the past 10 years, but this is likely the peak of the market.  

Other questions:

Are these 1 BR refurbished units renting at 850, or are they older 2-3 BR units renting at 850?  If you haven't been in the building, and laid eyes on the tenants - do so.  Stable tenants may mean "tenants-who-won't-leave-cause-no-one-else-will-rent-to-them", or great tenants. 

Okay, moving from questions to advice:

Even if you are planning on self-managing, put in the budget whatever you would pay a property manager (8 % rent costs, possibly 10% in Portland).  DO NOT LEAVE THESE NUMBERS OUT.  Trust me - I have self-managed for 2 years, while I did major renovations/repairs on a big multi.  I am about to sign off to a property management company for my building as of July 1st.  Whenever I think of this, a smile breaks out on my face, because it feels like I will be taking a major vacation for the rest of my life now that I'm not longer on call for repairs/dealing with bookkeeping/dealing with tenants.  And I thank myself daily for only buying this building with those property management costs factored in, so now I'm ready to let go, the building will still make me a profit.

Plowing  - and sidewalk shoveling.  Not sure if the building has parking (and if it does have -parking that is a plus.  If it doesn't, it will keep the rents lower.   Portland requires landlords to clear the sidewalks in front of their buildings.  That means you either:  1) do it yourself, which is really a fun time, 2) pay/beg a tenant to do it, 3) contract it out - which may be tough, especially if you don't have parking that will be plowed  out by said contractor, or 4) ignore it until the city fines you/tenants/neighbors complain.  

Put in money for repair expenses - DO NOT ASSUME that they won't be needed.  Numbers I've used for old buildings are 10% rental income for repairs, and 5% of rental income for cap expenses.  It's great that a lot has been done - but old building/steam heat/old pipes means plumbing work eventually.  How's the Electrical?  Old building.  Stuff happens.  Windows?  Porches? Foundation?  Do not let yourself walk into anything without planning for stuff that is unexpected, especially in an older building.  Repairs are tougher, because the old buildings aren't constructed typically/have plaster lathe/weird plumbing runs.  Repairs will be more expensive because they take  more time.  Another challenge in Portland is that finding good contractors/repair folks in the middle of the development boom means that you, as a single property owner, are not a priority and it can be hard to find folks to do smaller repairs/quick fixes.  If you do buy the building, get the name of every repair person the seller has had work on the building so that you have a number to call.  Then immediately start collecting recommendations from other landlords for additional plumbers/electricians/handymen/painters from , because they are tough to find, and the good ones won't be cheap, and they won't be available quickly.  Avoid the bad ones at all cost.  Don't do a deal without a great and thorough property inspection. It's fine if it needs stuff - but you need that list of what it is.

Do not run numbers assuming every unit will be filled every month.  Deduct 10% of income per year... turnover time between tenants, evictions, apartment renovations...

So... by adding in funds for potential repairs, cap ex, property management...these numbers do not scream "BUY THIS" at me.

My philosophy- and others may disagree - is that with older buildings at high New England Prices, considering the costs of repairs, taxes, etc, that a building better be able to pull in a lot of cash to make sense for a buy and hold.  After running numbers for about 50 buildings through spread sheets during my search, the only ones that made any sense in cities in Southern Maine were buildings with 4 units, that pulled in a boatload of rent - usually due to their size (3 BRs).  

If you haven't been running numbers already, it's a great exercise in spotting deals.  It takes a while to develop an eye, and you need  to target locations - so that you can compare rental income/costs to  buildings in the same market.  BP folks were very generous sharing their spreadsheets, and other advice, with me.  

Good luck!

Tammy

Post: Evaluating a flip home

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

Good job walking!

Post: Investing in Biddeford/Saco Maine?

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

Hi @Robert LaRoche

My first live in rental was a two unit on Munjoy Hill in the early 90's.  It was the "rough neighborhood" back then (!). 

If you are going to live in the multi, you do need to visit and see if it's somewhere you and your wife want to live.  Saco is less rough, but price is better in Biddeford.  Biddeford has more heroin (thought there's drug issues everywhere), but there's an interesting edge/potential to the place.  Saco's school system is stronger. 

Be careful of buying buildings out of code compliance, Biddeford is trying to improve housing stock - a good thing, but if you purchase a building without budgeting for the potential code enforcer spotting your windows aren't egress, that could be rough.  Also, give the police department a call if you are looking at a particular neighborhood/street in either town.  The police know the streets/buildings that they are always being called to.

Hi Craig,

An excellent resource on Maine Landlord/tenant laws is Pine Tree Legal Assistance.  I suggest your parents go there to get a good understanding of the law - and if you are advising them, then you need to do this too.   The materials on the website are written for tenants, but I use them all the time - they are written simply and clearly.   @Ryan Murdock has already stated - and he is correct, that time of year under Maine law makes no difference.  As @Patti Robertson mentioned, an excellent strategy is to contact Section 8 if the tenants are out of line.  

I really think it is wise to get at least a basic understanding of the laws in Maine if you are going to landlord- to protect your own family.  Or, get a decent lawyer immediately and pay for the privilege of not knowing the information.

Post: Maine Real Estate Environment

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

I'm focused on family rentals, so I'm not sure what you are thinking specifically (Air BnB?  Young couples?  Singles?).  When I think of looking for B properties for families, I think of ones with decent school systems.  Saco has a decent school system from middle school through high school, Gorham's pretty good, Falmouth, Freeport, Yarmouth, North Yarmouth (part of the Cumberland School system) Cumberland, Kittery, York.  It's harder to find good deals in those places, but if you are looking to rent B properties for families, that's where I'd look.

Post: Newbie in Maine

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

Hi and welcome @Loni Deering.  One thing that I might be helpful is articulating your questions a bit more.  There are quite a few folks here in Maine with a ton of experience, and there are several folks that I have reached out to individually and they have always responded with a generous spirit!  But before I do that, I make sure that I know what I am asking, because it lets me know who to approach, and what information they can give me that would be helpful.

When you say you might be in "analysis paralysis", what is holding you back? What don't you know that you need to in order to move forward (one way or another)? Do you want someone to double-check numbers to make sure you are not overlooking some expenses/factors?  Are you unsure about financing options available specific to your ideas?  I'm not sure what you are after, and it's a lot easier to find people to connect with, or ask others who you might connect with, if the question, or need, is clearer.   

Post: Augusta, Maine

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

@Amy A. that is terrible news about the bed bug ordinance.  I am in the process of getting my license to apply pesticides, but if I had to prepare tenant's possessions for treatment... OMG.... and what a stupid idea.  Will do nothing to solve the problem.

Post: Augusta, Maine

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

I think Waterville is a stronger area than Augusta (college, medical providers).  A good resource for that area is @Kenneth LaVoie 

Post: Asbestos Siding

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

@Patrick Kelly, it really depends on the house - I purchased a very old house with asbestos siding but the wiring was great.  I also purchased an old house with vinyl siding, and I have nob and tube that I am having to rip out.  Luckily, I knew about the nob and tube - a good home inspector can help you with that (contact me if you want recommendations).

@Joshua Sclafani I'm with you, if it's a pretty house, don't  bother with a vinyl... save up for remediation if you are going to do that.

Post: Asbestos Siding

Tammy RichardsPosted
  • Yarmouth, ME
  • Posts 57
  • Votes 25

You shouldn't run for the hills, and it really depends on the property what you do with it. 

Asbestos is fireproof and once you get the stupid stuff painted, it lasts a long time.  You can leave it.

On the other hand, I've had difficulty with some large insurance companies obtaining insurance (some won't).  But I've always managed to find insurers.

You can cover it with vinyl, but if you have a property with nice bones (say a nice, or even a middle class old Victorian) putting vinyl over it may throw off proportions of any attractive molding the building may have.

If it's a property on Munjoy Hill/West End of Portland, you may want to consider remediation, as it would likely pay off in increased value/aesthetics/resale.  

Also, I wouldn't count on a price break because it has asbestos - a ton of houses have asbestos siding, especially on the Portland peninsula especially.  Like fake paneling, it was a very trendy thing to do at one time around here.