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All Forum Posts by: Khang Pham

Khang Pham has started 5 posts and replied 34 times.

Post: First Buy & Hold - BRRRR in Houston

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

This is absolutely impressive! How long did the rehab project took for you to complete? 

Post: Deal Analyzing database?

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

@Mark Sewell @Peter Roehrich

Thank you both for some words of encouragement! You guys definitely help me put things into perspective.

Peter, that's an awesome example! It reminds me of the book Never Split the Difference, often times when we label the fear or emotion it tends to ease up the tension and release us from our fears or nervousness! Thank you. I will try that at the next meet up with someone!

Post: Deal Analyzing database?

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

@Brian Alfaro

Thank you for your suggestions. I did attend a few before. At these events I tend to feel very timid when it comes to speaking to individuals that are much older than I am. Part of me is afraid that I would say something stupid. However, I will get comfortable with it with more exposure.

I am absolutely going to be getting a realtor to help me on my first deal. Do you think it is uncommon for realtors to agree on signing a noncompete for only the deals that you see together and not by a 3-6 months term period?

Post: Deal Analyzing database?

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Hello all!

I am trying to get connected with local Texans and get more educated and build my network with this first post!  Does anyone in the Houston area (I live near Memorial Park) want to be accountability buddies to grow and motivate each other on this real estate journey?  


I also found this website that helps with analyzing deals. I made several searches and it seems to be somewhat accurate in some areas.  I would say it is a nice reliable secondary source to use when you're in a crunch.   Has anyone else try this website out?  Thoughts? Comments? I would to hear them! Please to meet you all virtually!

https://rubikanalytics.com

Post: First Deal Fell Thru!!

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Dealing with Contractors, inspectors (lender/city/county), material-men, is one of the most difficult aspects of this business. Your personality has A LOT to do w/ how you deal w/ those things.

If you tend to believe the best in people, its going to be rough.

If you tend to not believe people, its going to be rough.

The ONLY way to have success with any of those is to have your facts in a row, and to trust people followed by verifying everything you are told; until you know it 100% w/out verification. 

Finding "Facts" in this business is REALLY difficult however. Not many are actual pro's or experts but instead just want whatever comes with the title. i.e. building inspectors make 35-45k a year. But, if they really knew everything about construction they could get a superintendent gig working for a prop manager or construction company making double that, but they would have to ACTUALLY know what they where doing.

The point is this, you can struggle through and make things happen w/out paying for real professionals. I see it done all the time. But you can also budget into your projects to pay people to take away your headaches, and allow you to just verify facts and cut/collect checks.

There is nothing wrong w/ hiring pro's, not everyone can hire 3 dudes off the corner and flip a half a million dollar home. Its not "ability" its personality. 

I get hired by billion dollar REIT's to evaluate their acquisitions (mostly for rehab / repositioning scope/budget) and to do suggestions for long term maintenance issues. They aren't experts on any of that, and getting a bunch of bids would require 100's of hours of work by people who may not ever find the truth. So it has more value to just pay me.

However, I also hire pro's when things are out of my ability. i.e. I hire engineers to review my designs/plans to make sure I am not overloading walls or violating some rule I am unaware of or forgot about. I am a "pro", but that means I know my area and don't try to act like a pro where I am not.

 I 100% agree with what you said. In this industry it’s definitely a market that you have to pay money to make money. I’m going to give my money to the pros and let them do what they do best. As a newcomer I am open to learn everything and to decide what I like and don’t like. What I don’t like can be outsource to others who are good at it. With that being said, I won’t rely on just 1 professional opinion but at least 3 opinions. That is until I can find referral or person, I can trust to give me their best advice. Lastly, you nailed it by stating that personality and rapport goes a very long way in this business. I always want to encourage positivity and energy when talking to everyone and anyone even if they seem like crook trying to rip me off with absurd estimates. This is what gives me the courage and grit to carry on to find me next deal. Thank you for your valuable input. 

Post: First Deal Fell Thru!!

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Scott Baker:

Makes ya feel any better I just had a deal fall through as well, seller was being shady and wouldn't let anybody in to do the inspection, I had to cancel two days in a row. I think he's probably having sellers remorse and therefor screwed the deal to try again on the MLS. Would have been sweet though, the numbers were right. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on the listing to see where it goes.

 It's good to know that I'm not the only one who had that experience. Not that I was wishing that your deal fell through, but its good to recognize that we won't give up.  You and I, friend we will acquire our first cash flowing deal if we keep it consistent and work on it little by little!  Thanks for sharing 

Post: First Deal Fell Thru!!

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Mark Sewell:

Dealing with contractors is by far the hardest part to this whole game.  The foundation part is probably the easiest quote you will ever get.  The rest of it is harder.  

Probably the actual rehab for a rental property will be somewhere in the middle of that range.  It doesn't have to be super awesome, just safe, clean and presentable.  

I think your story also suggests that your offer was a bit too high.

I agree with you. The contractor part is definitely the hardest part. I got a delta of 10k between various bids for the same work.  I did mention to them that I just want the home to be "rent ready"  (nice kitchen with granite countertops and a very nice restroom vanity) everything else is just base line safe and presentable as you mentioned.  

Yes, my initial offer was indeed a bit too high.  Well too high for the actual "as-is" value of the home.  

Thank you for your input.

Post: First Deal Fell Thru!!

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Cody L.:

I love the attitude. Do you have a way to skip the 1-4 family purgatory and skip to 5+?

I just bought a 110 unit and did $0 in inspections. Had my operations manager just drive by. I feel the DD required on a large multi, IMO and ironically, is less. 

If I were in Houston with my properties, I’d take you up on your offer. 

Thanks I know it's a competitive market, but grit and tenacity will eventually help me land my first deal I'm sure of it!  It seems that you are an out of state investor?  Congrats on your recent deal! I want and choose to be where you are one day! 

Post: First Deal Fell Thru!!

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Hi BPers!

I want to express the amount of gratitude I have for the BP community that had showed me so much in the last 4 months. I've learned so much and try to put little by little the things I've learned into actions.

Here are some facts:

Listed: 130k

ARV: 155k

Accepted offer: $125,049 (got this number thanks to Never Split the Difference- Chris Voss, amazing book highly recommend)

Repairs: 20k for rent ready and then later on to find out that it is actually 35k for rent ready and foundation repairs (a whopping -5.5in)

Last week my first deal fell through in Southwest Houston, TX. I found the home on the MLS for 130K after conservatively generating multiple logistics results (thanks to the BP calculator) and made an offer for $125,049 and got accepted. My realtor mentioned that the home had been receiving $90k-$100k offers and it left me wondering why. I got it under contract with a 7 day option period. During my due diligence process I calculated that I was sitting on $116 cash flow after all expenses. I had told myself if the deal will cash flow for $100 or more I would bite. I knew that all I want is to land my first deal regardless of the low monthly cash flow. There was so much to do! Inspections, lending, contractors, insurance, and time! Each day I would drive from work on lunchtime to meet up with contractors to give me estimates on the repairs. Also I wanted to learn what the key things to look for and the ins and outs when buying a home.

I had multiple professional opinions with a wide stretch of estimated repair costs of $20k~$35k. The first contractor (before having an inspection) he advised that the home does not have a foundation issue (when you walk into the house you can feel the slant, the house was -5.5in on the front left) and quoted me $20k. The inspector, 2nd contractor, and 3rd contractor all advised me that the home does have a foundation issue because there were multiple visible branching of cracking through the bricks and sheetrock totaling the repairs value to ~$35k. Ultimately with $35k of repairs I would have been in negative cash flow. This was when I decided to break option period because this was a bad deal. Like you hear it on the BP podcast, “No deal is better than a bad deal”.

I am glad I made my decision with logic and not with my emotions no matter how much I wanted this first deal to work.  In addition, I lost about $500 on inspection and option period, but it was definitely worth it. I got a learning experience from it and who said education was free....Even though this deal fell through I know that this WON’T STOP ME.

I would also like to volunteer my time to help fellow Houston local BPer’s on weekends to; paint your house, paint your cabinets, mow your yard, helping with landscaping, pressure wash your driveway, stage your home, etc…two free helping hands is all yours. All I ask is for you to share about some of your favorite deals and experience over coffee. Please PM me

Post: Watch out for Wholesalers!!

Khang PhamPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9
Originally posted by @Vijaianand Thirunageswaram:

@Khang Pham  You are absolutely right, they show the property right in the middle of the day and makes it tough for part time investor like you and me. Most of the full time wholesalers do that because it's their full time business and also because the seller won't be in the house and can get access to it easily.It's the same problem for me as well but get away with it by sending my wife(assistant) to check it out.  

If you think of a business person, you cannot be in all places of business needs. You gotta delegate and make things happen. See whom you can delegate and get their help. Even if you have to pay them few bucks, take it and might worth it. I buy properties mostly from wholesalers but doesn't have to big ones. I deal with local wholesalers thru big ones. You just have to know how to deal with them and it comes with practice and relationship. 

Another hard part is having contractor to go check out and give estimate. Not after Harvey, it's hard to get a trustworthy contractor to check whenever you want to give quote. That's why you gotta train yourself to be estimator by learning from others. 

Hope this helps. 

Thank you for your thorough explanation and for sharing your experience!   Yeah I hope to gain some organic relationships with an honest wholesaler to do business with.  If we both make money from the deal, the wholesaler and I, then I am more than happy.