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All Forum Posts by: Kevin Forsell

Kevin Forsell has started 4 posts and replied 10 times.

Hello everyone!

I'm very excited to get tarted on my real estate career started! By the end of next year I will have saved about $50k for a down payment plus some reno budget. I plan on using the BRRRR method.

I live in Jersey City, NJ, and the home prices are very high in this area. The upside is I can manage the renovation much easier, and for my first reno, it will be much easier to have a local property. 

Another option is to invest in Salt Lake City, Utah because my best friend lives there and owns his own Property Management company. He has connections to trustworthy Agents, contractors, CPA's, and lawyers, and of course, he would manage my property(ies) for me. The home prices are also much more affordable, and from what I am learning, the Salt Lake City market is getting very hot, especially considering the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics in 2034. 

So, do I find my own team and invest (at least to start) in North Jersey, or do I use my friend and his contacts and invest out of state? I'm leaning toward SLC, but it does worry me to invest out of state. 

(By the way, 50k is my starting point. I plan to start searching for properties when I have 50k, but likely will have more reserved by the time I close on my first property. I know I'd likely need more if I decide to invest in Jersey). 

Thanks for all your help! I'm excited to hear what you think!

Kevin

Post: Landlord willing to sell multi-family to 1st timer

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Hi everyone, I'm a new investor only in the "creating a foundation" step of my real-estate investment journey. I have $10k in savings (3 mo emergency fund) and I'm the process of eliminating about $16k in debt (credit card, and auto loan) before really sprinting toward saving for a down payment and reno budget for my first flip. 

My landlord wants to sell the building I live in currently. It's a 4-plex (3 story walk-up with a ground level unit with a separate entrance). One 3 bed, one 2 bed and two 1-bed (all 1 bath) and about 1,000 sq ft each unit. The building is located near the Hamilton Park area of Jersey City (highly desired neighborhood, walkable to the PATH into NYC). He is willing to sell for $2.2M. I'm inexperienced in this, and having trouble seeing if this is a good opportunity to House Hack. I already live here, my unit is renovated, the others are not, allowing a perfect BRRRR + House Hack strategy. The issue is, of course, I don't have the capital. Is this a deal good enough that I should seek investors? Are there any agents out there who are familiar with this area who can let me know if this is a good deal?

Am I getting way too ahead of myself and need to focus on saving money for a deal that's more appropriate for a first-time buyer?

Happy to answer any questions about the property. 

Kevin

Post: Avoiding Live-in House Hack?

Kevin ForsellPosted
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Quote from @Tammy Love:

@Kevin Forsell You did the right thing coming to this forum to discuss your questions and get advice. I do have to say that many on this post were very supportive, but it is unfortunate when people shame and go directly to the negative, instead of giving support and education.  


 Thank you Tammy, I appreciate that. I’m just learning, so now that it’s been made clear that this is a bad idea I won’t entertain it. 

Post: Avoiding Live-in House Hack?

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Quote from @Sarita Scherpereel:

"no House Hack Police will come knocking to check if you're living in the property". To me, this implies, you understand this might be unlawful.  


 This was a quote from the agent, which concerned me and prompted me to dig deeper and ask professionals on this forum. 

Post: Avoiding Live-in House Hack?

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Quote from @Sarita Scherpereel:
Quote from @Kevin Forsell:
Quote from @Sarita Scherpereel:

@Kevin Forsell Wow. Maybe don't post on a public blog that you're thinking about committing a federal crime???

At the moment all I’m thinking about is saving for a down payment and learning the ins and outs of the business by asking these kinds of questions. Patronizing a novice by ridiculing an innocent question is not a good leadership quality. This is how people learn. Imagine I followed this agent’s advice without questioning it. Thank you for your input, and please consider mine in future. 


 People often ask for advice on here from a place of misunderstanding but from your post your asking people to help you either create the work around through the laws or to help you notice thing you haven't seen about getting caught. And your asking people if they have done this. Your asking people to say they have committed a federal crime. If you read my tone as patronizing, you're wrong. I'm very concerned for you and the advice you're getting. 


 Before asking this question I wasn’t aware that this was against the law, I was just asking about some advice I was given by an agent (who I won’t be working with). I’ll be finding a new agent by the time I’m ready to make an offer. 

Post: Avoiding Live-in House Hack?

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Quote from @Luke Stewart:

To start this I will be blunt, if you use an FHA loan and you do not occupy the property within 60 days of closing and maintain it as your primary for 12 months you will be in mortgage fraud, period. That's a felony. If you are doing conventional, I believe (someone fact check me) you can do whatever you want. There are a few extenuating circumstances that will allow you to not occupy the FHA as a primary.. check out the link.

https://www.fhaloans.com/artic...

While he is most likely correct that an FHA agent won't come knocking on your door, it is a possibility. But hey, we all have to live with our own risk. I am more concerned that your agent is telling you to break the law... end of the day he isn't the one responsible for the mortgage or the potential fraud. As a current house hacker (duplex, live in half - just closed 2 weeks ago) I will give you a question to ponder.

What's more important to you? Buying a house hack and living in it while increasing equity, paying a low monthly mortgage (covered by renter) and beginning your REI journey on a "supercharged" path? Or buying a single unit which will build less equity, have you paying more out of pocket and while still starting your REI journey.. it will just be a slower start.. but you dont have a renter living on the same property. You need to be comfortable with your choice, so this is probably the most important part

Also, are you talking about buying a duplex which is 2 individual units or a SFH with an attached suite or renting rooms? Because those are two very different set ups. I wouldn't want to live in a unit with others either, but a duplex seemed like an easy choice for me. End of the day its what you're comfortable with, do what's best for you. I just don't want you to get in trouble because your realtor gave you some questionable advice.


 Hi Luke, thanks for the detailed answer! Yes, this agent obviously gave me questionable advice. That’s why I wanted to confirm with this community before even continuing to talk with this agent. Very new to the game here. 

I will end up living in one unit and renting out the other(s) until the 12 months are up. And most likely start again on a new property. And I will be using a different agent. ;) 

Post: Avoiding Live-in House Hack?

Kevin ForsellPosted
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Quote from @Sarita Scherpereel:

@Kevin Forsell Wow. Maybe don't post on a public blog that you're thinking about committing a federal crime???

At the moment all I’m thinking about is saving for a down payment and learning the ins and outs of the business by asking these kinds of questions. Patronizing a novice by ridiculing an innocent question is not a good leadership quality. This is how people learn. Imagine I followed this agent’s advice without questioning it. Thank you for your input, and please consider mine in future. 


Post: Avoiding Live-in House Hack?

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Hello all-

I'm saving for my first multifamily home and my Agent (who invests himself) advised me to house hack for at least my first property. I expressed some uncertainty with living in the property and he told me some under-the-table advice; you don't actually NEED to live there, you just have to have the "intention" of living there. Once the property is sold, you can rent out all units, and no House Hack Police will come knocking to check if you're living in the property. 

Obviously this is more ideal for me (and I assume for most people), but the thought of cheating the system scares me a bit. Has anyone done this? If I do this and the lender (or anyone else) finds out, what might the repercussions be? Thanks in advance for the advice!

Post: Start locally in an expensive area or long-distance in an affordable area?

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Quote from @V.G Jason:

How long have you been making $9k net/mo?

I’ve been making this income for about 2 years now. I only just started saving for a down payment on an investment property for about 6 months. 

Post: Start locally in an expensive area or long-distance in an affordable area?

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I'm saving now for an investment property, but I live in Jersey City, NJ. Duplexes in the area are minimum 500k, and need a lot of work. Should my first property be a local investment or should I look in a more affordable area? 

Context: I'm 33 and make good money at my FT job (Netting around 9,000/mo), and I'm not willing to move away from Jersey City. I currently have about 10k aside for my real estate investment journey. I have a good agent in the area (who also invests) and he suggests I save 50k in order to purchase a property with HFA, house hack, and have some reno budget. I really enjoy my FT job, so I don't mind spending 2+ years to save the 50k and learn more about investing. What are your thoughts?