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All Forum Posts by: Kerry Pangan

Kerry Pangan has started 11 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: How can I use my fathers equity

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Beth Johnson:

@Michelet Polection

Have you considered getting a Line of Credit on the property and then lending it out for passive income? I got a HELOC on an investment property last year in 1st position with a variable, interest only rate. This allows me to arbitrage the HELOC into private money loans to other real estate investors where I could make a yield spread on the interest. My short term loans were typically in the 10.5-12% range so my yield is roughly 5-6% depending on prime. (My line is prime + 0.75).

If you aren't sure where to start in learning about becoming the bank, I just published a book with BiggerPockets last summer called Lend to Live: Earn Hassle-free Passive Income in Real Estate with Private Money Lending. You can check it out here:

https://store.biggerpockets.com/products/lend-to-live

Interesting. My dads on the same boat. Would that equity amount I would receive from my dad be in a contact? I’m assuming the amount would have interest attacheh paid monthly?

Post: Best way to acquire 2nd property?

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Nate Sanow:

2 thoughts here. 1. Conventional doesn’t have to be 20%, it can be 5% or even less. 2. Does the second property have to be a house hack? 

I ask because brrrr will scale much faster and 20% down will keep your money tied up. Food for thought. Best wishes to your success 

Yes my goal was to HH the next property. So conventional loans are reachable 5% down? My fiancé hasn’t used her FHA yet either I’m explored the idea of her getting a property through her name.

Post: Best way to acquire 2nd property?

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Alex Hochberger:

Save up a downpayment. 5%, whatever.

Leave the FHA alone because of rates. I don't think you have to continue to occupy it, as long as it was true when you got it.

Acquire a second Duplex with a Conventional loan (can do 5% down), move into the Duplex. Rent out the unit you vacate. Now you have 3 Tenants + you. You should be able to count on a decent percentage of the rent as your income to qualify. Once you have the two of them going, your numbers should make more sense.

BRRRR is going to be challenging in the current market without more established of an asset base.

But if you can Hack your way to the two duplexes, you can save up for a downpayment on a SFH at that point and move there, while having two duplexes. At that points, you should have options and a track record.


Now that’s a plan I had in mind. I haven’t shopped or looked around but a 5% conventional reachable?

Post: Best way to acquire 2nd property?

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Aaron Schrader:

Check around with different lenders, I do know there are some 10-15% lending options on investment properties.  Also, if you start to examine owner finance options that could open up a lot of options for you.  If you go this route spend time to really understand it, that way you can share with the seller WHY they should owner finance you!  An owner finance seller is still going to want a down payment, but you could even set it up so that your seller even finances the down which gets repaid in the first year or two (this would be a set up that might work well with an AirBnB that has higher cashflow).  Anyway, just some ideas.  

Thanks. Yes I’ve heard that owner financing would be a viable option too. 

Post: Best way to acquire 2nd property?

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Katherine Earle:

Many people have used the approach where after 12 months, they refinance the first property, go buy the next one with a new FHA loan and rent out the unit they were previously living in for only 3.5% down instead of the 15-20%. Haven't done it personally, but that was the approach I was looking at to get started. You could also look into a vacation home loan which only requires 10% down, as long as it isn't too close by. I have to keep reminding myself as well that those first few properties are always going to be the hardest. Buying rentals is a long-term play. No get-rich-quick scheme here!

Thanks. I was actually watching a YouTube video today and I didn’t know about vacation homes 10% down and it needs to be a certain distance. Can that loan be used for a 2 unit duplex?

Post: Best way to acquire 2nd property?

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9

I just purchased my 1st duplex in January. Renovated and tenants area now paying 100% off the mortgage. 

What is the best way to acquire a 2nd rental property? I've already used my FHA so I'm thinking conventional 20% down?


Which route do I go to fund it? I’m starting to work more hours at my job to save 40k-50k. It’s not going to be easy but if there’s other routes to achieve capital too that’s easier I’m willing to hear it. 

Post: Basement room no windows

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9

Will a FHA appraiser fail a home inspection if a basement room doesn't have windows? It's a finished room but it doesn't have windows. Could they just deem it unusable?

Post: Propert only had 3 days for offers and no showing date

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9

@Michael Dumler thank you for the feed back!

Post: Propert only had 3 days for offers and no showing date

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9

Put my offer in first ever duplex. MLS listing only had 3 days to put an offer and no showing date. Could this be potentially mean the seller wants it sold fast? Could this be more competitive or less competitive because it's only 3 days to put an offer? Or is this common? Lmk as I am new in this process. :)

Post: DTI factors to look for when purchasing a duplex.

Kerry PanganPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Grand Rapids, MI
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 9

I'm looking to purchase a duplex hopefully in the coming months. I've looked at my first property a couple weeks back and I really did like it. Unfortunately closing cost was higher than expected but my lender mentioned how it wouldn't have worked considering the property had really high property taxes and I guess would increase my DTI. I didn't know that would effect my DTI. What are other DTI factors should I look out when purchasing to satisfy lenders approval? I'm fairly new to all the terms. But as I looked at properties even though I wasn't close to closing on any of them I am learning as I go.