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All Forum Posts by: Kerry Boyle

Kerry Boyle has started 22 posts and replied 265 times.

Post: Fix and Flip question...

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Originally posted by @Kevin Sobilo:

@Kerry Boyle, an even better question might be what factors should one consider when making that decision. 

There is certainly a lot of value in coming out of pocket less money. Less personal risk for one. Also, the ability to work more deals at once.

However, what if you aren't going to work multiple deals at once. Is it better to let a pile of cash sit idle while putting only a small amount into a deal?!? 

It isn't a once size fits all proposition. I think understanding the factors to make the decision would be most useful.

 
I agree. As a lender, I'm often only asked what are my interest rate and points. I was curious if others found value outside of those two items, things that aren't often asked. Each one of the above can certainly be the best choice for an individual, each person is different and has different financial goals, needs, and wants. 

Post: Fix and Flip question...

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Theory question here, curious as to everyone's thoughts.

$155,000 purchase; $50,000 rehab; $350,000 ARV.

Would you rather: 

A: Fund the entire thing on your own, $205,000 + $3,000 closing costs.

B: Pay 7% I/O, and put down $30,000 (incl all closing costs + 3mo payments).

C: Pay 10.5% I/O, and put down $9,000 (incl all closing costs + 3mo payments).

Post: Hard Money for Purchase Only?

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Has anyone used a HML for the purchase only?

  • Yes, this is a thing. I believe that if you are planning to rehab, the lender will want to know what you are doing. This is to protect their collateral (i.e. someone coming in and demoing the property with no experience might not get the purchase financing :) ).

I would rather pay for the rehab with my business lines of credit to save money. 

  • Have you calculated what it would save? Is your main goal profit/project or ROI? It may be better to use your BLOC to finance more purchases if you have the bandwidth. I love math :)

How would this affect the reserves they want me to have? Thanks in advance! Tyler

  • My best guess (every lender is different), is that it would reduce your reserves required. Not all lenders require reserves to be vetted, as @Stephanie Potter said. When lenders check reserves they check down payment, closing costs, and usually a few payments. If your loan is smaller because you aren't getting rehab money, your payment requirement and closing costs would be lower since they are all or mostly calculated by loan amount.

Post: Hard Money in Augusta

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You can use the biggerpockets "Network" tab. Then go to hard-money and search your state.

They recently added a new feature allowing you to put in some basic info and get a lead request sent to the company.

Post: Looks like Amazon hq2 is NYC and VA

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Originally posted by @Aaron Taylor:

From a pure financial standpoint when you can pick anywhere in the US to build, those two areas seem like odd choices.  It's kind of like having the whole US as an option to buy rental property and then buying in the most expensive areas.  Obviously it must be non-financially driven to some degree.  But what do I know, lol.

I also think that huge headquarters may start to go by the wayside in the future.  I live in the midwest, and I've noticed that companies in expensive areas are starting to recruit people to work from home remotely rather than pay someone locally.  Like a person in Kansas might be 25% to 50% cheaper than someone in Cali doing the same job.  I think that trend is going to continue in the future as companies shrink their offices and hire remotely.  I know of two engineers in the last month that were recruited to work at home from now on.

 The original reason to create HQ2 was because Seattle is running out of talent and the company is having trouble accommodating a growing company with a stagnant hiring pool. Can you think of two places that have higher education percentages than NYC and DC hubs? 

I agree about work from home stuff though. I wonder what the statistics around productivity are from full time stay-at-home vs some amount of time in the office.

Post: Have Hard Money Rates Bottomed Out?

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Originally posted by @Scott Scharl:

That's helpful analysis-- thank you @J Scott and @Jay Hinrichs. I agree. It seems that rates will have to increase in the next few years. 

I ask because I am working with some partners to establish a hard money fund. We are going to raise the capital from family and friends to start and form a Limited Partnership.

We are targeting an average of 12% interest and 2 points. Points will be split: 1 point to the General Partners and 1 to the fund (Limited Partners). General Partners take 20% cut of the fund's interest income.

Under these numbers, we plan to pay our fund investors 10% (annualized) distributions, quarterly.

What do you think of the all-equity raise route vs. borrowing our capital from a bank or institution? 

Most HML sell their notes to bigger funds. At 12/2, you can make up to 2% selling the note. You just have to be inside someone else's box (or at least that specific loan does).

Also, fantastic advice from @J Scott. 

Selling HML notes (or correspondent lending) resolves capital limitation and can increase your lending box. It might make sense if a fund's cost of capital is significantly less than yours. I.e. their cost of funds might be 5%, so they can spend money to get the notes and earn more on the strips than you would have.

Post: Refinancing Hard Money

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Originally posted by @Ray Hayward:

I am curious to know, is it possible to refinance debt owned to a hard money lender with a bank mortgage as long as the equity LTV is 30%+?

I am looking at a property that will require some environmental clean up before a bank would fund construction costs.  I would be using private money for the clean up, then would like to refi with the bank for construction costs and cover some of the hard money costs. 

 Only concern is the possible disjoint between your HML requiring you to close as an entity (if applicable) and your bank requiring you to close as an individual.

Post: Refinancing Hard Money

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Originally posted by @Carrie Doan:

Can someone clarify how a refi with a bank factors in DTI for approval? I would like to BRRR with a private loan, then refi with a bank, but I'm concerned our DTI may be too high. We have 2 mortgages on other investment properties (no other debt) and I'm wondering if a rate/term refi is based solely the property value or the borrower's DTI ratio. How are people are utilizing the BRRR strategy with say, 50+ properties while keeping the DTI low enough to qualify?

 Usually, banks cut investors off at 10 properties. Put your 10 most expensive properties on bank lines and all others are on rental loans for investors (the hard-money equivalent of long term amortizing loans).

Post: $972,800 Purchase; $470,000 Rehab. Only $39,000 Cash To Close!

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Borrowing entity had 10+ flips in past 3 years, applicant had 680+ credit. We funded 90% of purchase and fronted $92,300 from their $470,250 rehab budget at close. When they complete the first $92,300 of work, they get draw #2 paid directly to them for $79,000. Complete draw 2, get draw 3 for 147k. Complete draw 3 get draw 4 for 112k. Complete project, get remaining balance of about 40k (appliances and landscaping).

Call or email me today. 42 States including California.

Post: Rehab draws paid to you in advance!

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@Shawn Ward sent. Thanks!