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All Forum Posts by: Ken Swearengen

Ken Swearengen has started 17 posts and replied 75 times.

Post: Deal Analysis: Duplex for house hacking

Ken SwearengenPosted
  • Baltimore, MD
  • Posts 75
  • Votes 38

We looked at a house a while ago, but due to a death in the family we ended up suspending our house hunt and didn't end up making an offer on it. It was originally listed at $250,000, and on the market for about 3 or 4 months before it was delisted.

We ended up getting a hold of the seller and he said we can make him an offer. The seller wants to sell as-is because he's getting old and doesn't have the energy or motivation to fix things up -- but fortunately it's been well-maintained. One unit is empty and the other is occupied by his son who would leave if we bought it. Each unit is 2 stories, 3 bedrooms 1 bath at about 1200 sqft. It's in a semi-rural area with low vacancy rates; based on rentometer I think I could get at least (lower 25th percentile) $1450 per month for each. More likely could get $1600 for each. 

Key attributes: Well & septic, baseboard heat, seperatley metered electric.

Pros: Large yard with a deck, quiet setting, close to major highways and the city. Brick exterior. Good schools. House in good condition for its age (at least as far as I can see). 

Cons: CSX train tracks about an eight of a mile from the house (hidden by some woods). House built in 1890's. Basement was wet when we first looked at it, but no mold and our agent wasn't worried about it. Ceilings are a bit low (around 7 feet I think?). Brick exterior was remodeled so the colors don't match around windows and some doors.

I guess my question is: What should I look out for or be aware of when putting in an offer and doing my due diligence? I haven't looked too much into as-is properties before (the this one seems to be different given its condition) so just want to make sure I'm not getting myself into something I can't handle.

@Ned Carey @Ola Dantis @Solomon Morris Two questions for you guys:

1) Do you have any neighborhoods in the region where you guys are seeing a lot of 2-4 unit homes coming on the market? Or any neighborhoods that are getting money pumped into them?

2) I'd like to start expanding my search to include homes that need more work than normal (probably using an FHA 203k). Do you have any contractor recommendations, ideally ones who work with 203k loans?

I'd appreciate any info you guys could pass my way!

Sure @Ned Carey: http://cels.baltimorehousing.o...

The county has a separate site. Pastigng from my phone, so hope that works!

@John Teachout. There was a significant amount more per half mile radius than where we currently live. And they were mostly tier 3, which tends to be the worse stuff. I'd be fine with it if we weren't planning on living there with my two kids.

@Solomon Morris @Ola Dantis @Tim Herman @John Teachout @Anthony Rosa Thank you all for the help! We actually secured a verbal offer last night for $10k below the listing price which we were excited about. But as I was filling out the offer contract this morning it informed me that I should look over the sex offender registry, and it wasn't looking good for that particular area. Wouldn't bother me if it was strictly an investment property, but we would be living in half the duplex with my 3 year old and 9 month old so it turned out to be a deal killer. 

It's been a good learning experience though, you all gave me valuable advice about expenses -- I'll keep on trucking along!

@Ola Dantis Thanks for the insight! It's 21234 -- Parkville area. We've lived in the county for the past 5 years so want to stay relatively close to it. 

@Tim Herman It's part of our notoriously high city taxes.

@Tim Herman I bumped it up a little just for cushion, but the utilities are just water and sewer. The electric is seperately metered, so I'd bill those back to the tenant.

@Solomon Morris Baltimore city has a website were you can see if the property is registered and licensed, this property is neither. Our agent informed us of the process though. 

@Tim Herman Thank you. Do you have a calculator or spreadsheet you use? Here are my numbers using your 23% expense rule, but I didn't break down the individual capex amounts.

Worst (rent 25th percentile)Most Likely (median rent)Best (rent 75th percentile)
Income$26,520.00$31,200.00$35,532.00
Vacancy/repairs/capex$6,099.60$7,176.00$8,172.36
utilities$1,400 $1,400 $1,400
mortgage/taxes$18,504.00$18,504.00$18,504.00
insurance$1,044 $1,044 $1,044
profit/loss-$527.60$3,076.00$6,411.64
Total cash to close$20,561.00$20,561.00$20,561.00
CoC-2.57%14.96%31.18%

Hi John, thank you for the reply! I think that was just bad language on my part: the second unit is two bedroom but there is a large finished basement that could be used as a bedroom if the tenants so desire. Does that make sense?

I will definitely make sure to ask our real estate agent about the permits and make sure we have the inspector take extra care with looking at the renovated parts of the house.