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All Forum Posts by: Kenny Manchester

Kenny Manchester has started 3 posts and replied 35 times.

Post: Buying 1st Short Term Rental in The Great Smokey Mountains!

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22

@Alan Bostick Congrats on getting into the STR game. Thank you for asking some great questions. Seems like a ton of support on here to help you which in turn helped me. I am in the same boat. Just got connected with a realtor and a lender. I will shoot you a message if all works out and I recommend them. Cheers to success in the Smokey Mountains!

Post: Investors to Network With Vacaville, CA Area

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22

@Phil Clark it was a busy week. I am open this week

Post: Investors to Network With Vacaville, CA Area

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22

Hey Phil,

I am in the Vacaville area. Would love to meet up. I have done a couple deals. Not by any means a know it all, but would love to connect.


Kenny Manchester

Post: Help with creative commercial financing!

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Erik Sanders:

Kenny,

Sorry, I should have been more clear to start! I am looking at this for a house hack!

Are you familiar with any commercial terms that allow 5% on a commercial property?

I would definitely be open to a partnership, just haven't lined one up that I feel solid about just yet!

Thanks so much for your advice!

House Hacking sounds like an amazing plan. I do not know of any commercial loan lenders that will allow you to put down 5%. Realistically it will be 25%. If you are short on capitol we need to find you a way to make this happen. Is the deal amazing? 

If you found a 4-plex then you could utilize a 5% down loan.

Post: Help with creative commercial financing!

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22

@Erik Sanders

If it is a good deal why not partner on it with someone? This will allow you to put lower down payment if another person comes in half. If the issue is cash on hand. I think the only way you can make a loan work at 5% is to occupy one of the units and utilize it as a house hack. 

Post: Out - of - State Investing

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Mike D'Arrigo:

@Kenny Manchester Most people turn to out of state because like you, are looking for cash flow which they can't get in their own market. There are a lot of popular cash flow markets but if you are asking why we chose the markets we have, it's for the following reasons in addition to just cash flow.
1. Strong population growth
2. Strong job growth
3. High labor force participation rate
4. Public and private economic development
5. Modern, diverse economy and industry
6. Low to moderate property taxes and insurance rates
7. Favorable landlord/tenant laws

 Great info Mike. Appreciate the input. The help in this post has been tremendous!

Post: Out - of - State Investing

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Charlie Kimberly:

@Kenny Manchester I had similar questions before buying into two separate OOS markets, and ultimately it came down to A) the specific deal I could get & B) WHO I was working with.

I liked Memphis, and I couldn't find a great team in the area. When we looked into KCMO we found a great group to help us source off market properties + management. 👆 That's been gold & we will build our portfolio in KCMO for that reason.

Our most recent deal is in a market that I wouldn't even suggest... & we just had a golden deal fall in our lap so we took it. 👏

For me, it's all about the people &/or deal.

 It is wonderful that you were able to find such a great team in KCMO. Sounds like they are doing wonders to help your expand. How did you come across such a great team? Did you just cold call, know someone, get recommended? Memphis is a tough place... I been there once a couple years ago and was not impressed. My family and I will be visiting Central to Eastern TN end of month. Would love to hear more.

Post: Out - of - State Investing

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Mary M.:

@Kenny Manchester I will be the opposing voice here....  IMO it is always best to invest in places you know and where you can have some control over asset management.    Investing where you must rely on others to manage, repair, rent etc is IMO a good way to give away a lot of money. 

Nobody will maintain your assets as well as you will...  and even if you rely on a PM, if you are in the vicinity you can keep a sharp eye on things.   The entire concept of OOS investing is to make money for the "team" not so much the asset owner. 

My suggestion is to buy where/what you know...  if you are in CA see if you can find areas that might make more sense, or look for those deals that will work for your goals.  Being from the Bay Area I know how hard that can be,  and I took myself and my money to Oregon.  

I hear so many horror stories about OOS investing that it just would not be my first choice..... 

good luck in whatever you do ! 


Hey Mary, Thanks for reaching out. I do agree it would be better to invest more locally. I could take a look at it again. I am looking into moving myself out of state as well. So I guess it would have been better to touch on where a good place to live/invest would be. How is Portland treating you? Thank you for your insight.

Post: Out - of - State Investing

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Darius Ogloza:

@Kenny Manchester We are currently fixing and flipping here in Marin since the market has gone bat-sh*t crazy.  Just last week lost out on a property that received 21 offers.  Crazy and expensive but with high risk comes high reward (and more often than not low maintenance headaches)

In every market, there are deals.  Deep, scary fixers.  Probates (especially with our of state heirs).   

Good luck!   Your location reminded me I need to get out to Fenton's now that things are opening up.  

I am glad to hear you are still batting away at the market out there. It is crazy here as well. I would love to pick your brain sometime regarding finding deals in different markets as you have been in the game much longer than I have. I could even treat you to some Fentons... Talk soon.  

Post: Out - of - State Investing

Kenny Manchester Posted
  • Vacaville, CA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 22
Originally posted by @Darius Ogloza:

You can spend the rest of your life comparing cites and states across the U.S. and still, in the end, make a poor investment decision.  Every metro area has great, good, fair and poor investment opportunities.  Whether you invest in your own backyard or 3,000 miles away, being able to spot good opportunities is the key.   What constitute good opportunities will depend on your investment goal and time horizon (wealth building? cash flow?), the amount of capital available to you, your risk tolerance and your capacity to conduct diligence.  We invest in our own backyard (SF/Marin County) as well as, both currently and in the past 20 years, in Davis CA, Las Vegas, Rochester NY, Chicago and St. Pete area.  Here is a sketch of our process for finding new markets:

If you are going out of area, start with a metro with which you have some familiarity.  You have family there? Friends? You like to visit? Many online resources exist that will allow you to break the metro into neighborhoods.  Having some personal experience with the area will help immensely in this regard.  Once you develop this map, focus on those neighborhoods/areas consistent with your level of risk tolerance and available capital.  Are you looking for high end properties, working class areas, etc?  From there, check rent to sale price ratios in the selected neighborhoods.  Look into the area's property tax assessment practices and rates (unlike mortgages property taxes are forever).  Subscribe to the online version of the local paper for a sanity check on your neighborhood assessments.  Lastly, pay a meaningful visit to the neighborhoods you have selected.  If one or more neighborhoods continue to appear promising, meet up with one or more local realtors and select the best one to work with in helping you find properties.  

Once you have this process down pat, you can drill down in pretty much any metro in a week or two.                

 This is great input. I have followed some of these guidelines but could add more into my daily practices. Congrats on being in some of those very highly priced areas. Are you currently buying in these markets today? I feel as if I am priced out of the markets you mention, but maybe that is just a mindset adjustment I need to fix.