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All Forum Posts by: Ken McGrew

Ken McGrew has started 2 posts and replied 16 times.

Post: realty trust or LLC?

Ken McGrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Galveston, TX
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 0
Does an llc actually provide protection?   Could people who know please address this commentary:  http://www.johntreed.com/entity.html



Originally posted by @James Miller:
Originally posted by @William Morgan:

@James Miller

The reason most people advocate a trust holding title with an LLC subsequently having beneficial interest is so that a lender will not accelerate a loan on the property. A transfer to an LLC is a common cause for a lender (threaten) to accelerate the loan whereas a transfer to an inter-vivos revocable trust does not. Quietly assigning interest to an LLC thereafter affords its protections. Thoughts?

"the trustee is going to be exposed to liability."

What liability, aside from their fiduciary duty as a Trustee, are the exposed to? 

 All liability? Negligence, breach of contract, strict liability, etc.? You sue the trustee when a trust is sued, not the trust in general. There's usually no liability protection with a trust. Moving a residential financed house into a living trust only protects from due on sale if the house remains owner-occupied 

(if you're referring to the federal exemptions from due on sale here's the language:

a transfer into an inter vivos trust in which the borrower is and remains a beneficiary and which does not relate to a transfer of rights of occupancy in the property)

Therefore, you're not protected at law from due-on-sale issues by this if you're trying to use a trust to turn an owner-occupied property into a rental. However, will the bank find out that you've named the LLC as beneficiary? Probably not. However, the LLC likely won't be affording ANY liability protection by being a beneficiary, so why the heck use an LLC at that point? The LLC doesn't have rights to manage the property, the trustee does.

Post: Revocable Trust and LLC as beneficiary in Texas

Ken McGrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Galveston, TX
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 0

There has been a great deal of discussion of the motive of some attorneys to steer people towards LLC when this might not be the best option. The purpose of the forums, I think, is to share and discuss experience so we are not at the mercy of the first attorney or CPA we contact.

Post: Revocable Trust and LLC as beneficiary in Texas

Ken McGrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Galveston, TX
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 0

I have been researching revocable trusts and came upon this interesting presentation that advocates use of a living trust in conjunction with an llc as the beneficiary:

http://andersonadvisors.com/wp-content/uploads/201...

Has anyone used such an approach and if so can they make suggestions of best practices and/or recommend an attorney who understands both estate protection and real estate investing in the Houston area?

In my situation I am unable to follow usual strategies for the following reasons. I have a couple of rentals and am expanding. I am able to get very favorable financing in my personal name but can't transfer to an LLC by lender rules. I can however transfer to a revocable trust. I will be managing the properties personally and will be doing some work myself that does not require license. Otherwise I will use bonded and insured contractors. I am most interssted in protecting personal assets and if possible isolating any judgement against one property from the others as well. I will ofcourse want to have appropriate insurance and umbrella. So many questions come to mind such as whether each property should be in its own trust and whether the beneficiary of each property should be its own series in an LLC.

Thanks,

Ken

Post: Real Estate Professional Tax Status ?'s

Ken McGrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Galveston, TX
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 0

Hi All,

Thanks for your input.  It has been my experience that finding a CPA who understands the real estate professional status requirements is next to impossible in my area.  Fortunately most questions have been answered on this forum and from other sources.  It doesn't seem that anyone has generated a list of activities that are being allowed.  Brandon's post covered most things. My only remaining questions are about whether educational activities count and if/what supervision of professionals we hire count.

I am aware of the general requirements in terms of the 750 hours, 51%, 500 hours or 100 hours, Etc.  Meeting the requirements and this status is a good fit for our needs in general. But I don't want to track time that won't count and do want to track all time that will count.

Thanks,

Ken

Post: Real Estate Professional Tax Status ?'s

Ken McGrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Galveston, TX
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 0

Hii Brandon,

Thanks for the quick response. It clarified things well regarding acquisition. 

Do you know how the IRS is viewing educational activities, both formal and informal?

Thanks,

Ken

Post: Real Estate Professional Tax Status ?'s

Ken McGrewPosted
  • Investor
  • Galveston, TX
  • Posts 16
  • Votes 0

Hi all,

I am resurrecting this discussion in hopes that folks with experience can illuminate exactly which activities the IRS will and will not count towards the 750 hours.  For example, the law says that time spent on acquisitions should count, but reportedly the time spent looking for properties is not counted as acquisitions.  How does one learn, ahead of an audit, what the IRS will accept?

Thanks,

Ken