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All Forum Posts by: Ken M.

Ken M. has started 58 posts and replied 758 times.

Post: LA fires Wholesalers Beware

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
  • Investor
  • San Antonio, Dallas
  • Posts 773
  • Votes 448
Quote from @James Hamling:

@Jay Hinrichs I'd love to think this is government working FOR the people, protecting there ability to process. My gut say's it's other motives. 

The timing of people most apt to say "F-it, I'm done with this stuff, I'm gonna take the $ and run" is in that 90 day period. 

Because that is when the impacts are most felt of everything one has to do with the now pile of ashes. 90 days to do nothing forces people to engage with staying. 

I have a feeling this is designed to maximize retention of now dislocated persons. 

Why do I say that? Because I don't see any exceptions in it for those people who want to get out, who want to just sell and run. If it were really for the motive of protecting the people, the people would still have there option and freedom to initiate the action themselves. 

I like the notion of protecting peoples privacy to process. What I don't like is seeing the removal of peoples options and freedoms to self select and engage in what they want to do. 

Can you imagine how long it will take for insurance companies to settle claims and pay off policy holders? 

Post: 2.25% Interest Rate - Assumable Mortgage, down payment gap over $200k

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
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  • San Antonio, Dallas
  • Posts 773
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Quote from @Jeffrey Robison:

Are you still stuck here? I may have a solution if you are.

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I'm interested.

I have a contract on a house in Phoenix AZ with a value of $500,000
and a mortgage of $288,000 to be taken subto.
Seller wants $160,000 cash out which leaves $50,000 in equity for the buyer.
I had a taker from CA but he couldn't come up with the cash.

I was not aware of anyone that understands that kind of deal.

Post: Detroit Wholesalers: Why Do Your Deals Suck So Bad?!

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
  • Investor
  • San Antonio, Dallas
  • Posts 773
  • Votes 448
Quote from @Chris Morris:

Wholesalers in Detroit are making it nearly impossible to find good deals. Too many are locking up properties at retail prices and tacking on outrageous assignment fees, leaving no room for investors to profit. It feels like the focus has shifted from creating value to chasing quick payouts, with little regard for the end buyer. The result? Investors like me are left sifting through overpriced junk instead of finding real opportunities.

Pro Tip: The average wholesale contract is for a 30 day "inspection", while the wholesaler looks for a buyer. Since it's rare to find a buyer, the agreement expires and you have a willing seller to negotiate a deal with.

Post: Subto FHA problem

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
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  • San Antonio, Dallas
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Quote from @Alex Hall:
Quote from @Ken M.:
Quote from @Alex Hall:

Yes fix the problem, his credit. I do realize how I got the house, he got behind on his escrow. His payment jumped up to an amount he couldn’t afford, so he stopped paying. I came in and paid his arrears plus his escrow shortage on top of putting money in his pocket. 

When it comes to helping out. I don’t think I’d be asking for any lenders help. Which 2 are looking into it as we speak. If that doesn’t work, then on to another option. I don’t understand why I would jump straight to getting the note done with as my first option. Yes that’s why I want to hold onto it is obviously because of the rate. 

Insurance actually yes my other subto just renewed on the 10th. It was outrageous for what they went up to but nothing a little shopping around couldn’t fix. Should have been more proactive on that one for sure. 

I appreciate the warning. 


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I am SURE I misunderstood you and you didn't admit to "fixing his credit." No, I'm sure you didn't, especially on a website monitored by the FBI, FTC and others. I'm SURE you mis-spoke and meant to say, he's a close friend that I am trying to help but it was not my intention to "fix his credit".

Debt Relief and Credit Repair Scams

"The FTC has brought scores of law enforcement actions against these bogus credit-related services, and the agency has partnered with the states to bring hundreds of additional lawsuits"

SOME CASES
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/topics/consumer-finance/debt...


 Never once did I say I was fixing his credit. Sooo, you SURE misunderstood. Thanks for the reading material though. 

Yeah, I guess when you said "Yes fix the problem, his credit." it means something else. Got it. Just a friendly informational note.

Post: Looking for a mentor

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
  • Investor
  • San Antonio, Dallas
  • Posts 773
  • Votes 448
Quote from @Oscar Perez:

@Ken M. Yes

It's actually a series of learning steps. Section 8 is the easy part.
I tutored for years, in the hood. I understand the culture.

Let's assume you have already done the following:
1. Have cash available 
2. Have been pre-qualified for financing
3. Know how to manage properties
4. Understand the tax implications of your decisions
5. Know what properties make money and which ones don't
6. Have a working knowledge of maintenance & repairs so a contractor won't rip you off
7. Understand landlord/tenant laws
8. Understand the eviction process
9. Know the difference between a mother trying to make ends meet and a baby momma.
10. Understand the difference between crack & fentanyl and how that affects rents & getting tenants
11. The difference between civil issues and criminal issues
12. Know how to keep books so all expenses get paid and if audited, you pass the audit

Now, since we assume you have those under control, 

 First you find a property that meets the basic requirements

Must be clean, safe, habitable, sanitary - there will be an inspection

It has to be ready for occupancy

You have to be responsive to maintenance issues

You can lose your section 8 approval so it must be taken seriously

You need a break down of who pays which utilities

Fill out a Request for Tenancy Approval form from HUD

Direct deposit information

and an inspection will be done on the following

  • Lead-based paint hazards
  • Kitchen and bathroom presence with proper appliances, fixtures, and sinks
  • Ventilation
  • Electricity and electrical hazards
  • Conditions of the windows, walls, floors, and ceiling
  • Smoke detectors
  • Security (locks on doors and windows)
  • Condition of the building’s foundation, stairs, rails, porches, roof, gutters, chimney, and other exterior surfaces
  • Adequate and safe heating and cooling
  • Water heater and water supply
  • Plumbing and sewer connection
  • Accessibility and fire exits
  • Pest infestation
  • Garbage and debris disposal
  • Indoor air quality
  • Elevators

Post: Looking for a mentor

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
  • Investor
  • San Antonio, Dallas
  • Posts 773
  • Votes 448
Quote from @Oscar Perez:

im looking for a mentor who can help me get into section 8 housing or send me info im ready to start and want to learn from someone who has actually done it.

Are you a big tough guy with lots of patience? Just wondering.

Post: Subto FHA problem

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
  • Investor
  • San Antonio, Dallas
  • Posts 773
  • Votes 448
Quote from @Alex Hall:

Yes fix the problem, his credit. I do realize how I got the house, he got behind on his escrow. His payment jumped up to an amount he couldn’t afford, so he stopped paying. I came in and paid his arrears plus his escrow shortage on top of putting money in his pocket. 

When it comes to helping out. I don’t think I’d be asking for any lenders help. Which 2 are looking into it as we speak. If that doesn’t work, then on to another option. I don’t understand why I would jump straight to getting the note done with as my first option. Yes that’s why I want to hold onto it is obviously because of the rate. 

Insurance actually yes my other subto just renewed on the 10th. It was outrageous for what they went up to but nothing a little shopping around couldn’t fix. Should have been more proactive on that one for sure. 

I appreciate the warning. 


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I am SURE I misunderstood you and you didn't admit to "fixing his credit." No, I'm sure you didn't, especially on a website monitored by the FBI, FTC and others. I'm SURE you mis-spoke and meant to say, he's a close friend that I am trying to help but it was not my intention to "fix his credit".

Debt Relief and Credit Repair Scams

"The FTC has brought scores of law enforcement actions against these bogus credit-related services, and the agency has partnered with the states to bring hundreds of additional lawsuits"

SOME CASES
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/topics/consumer-finance/debt...

Post: Pro Tip on Subject To - Subto

Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
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  • San Antonio, Dallas
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Quote from @Kyle Mccaw:

@Ken M.  Thank you for your post. I have some questions that you may have the answers for. 

  • How many Due on Sale clauses have you actually seen enforced?
  • Are there specific lenders or servicers that are more likely to call these loans?
  • When loans were called, was it due to specific triggers like delinquencies, insurance lapses, or low-interest rate portfolio loans held by smaller banks?
  • The guy on Youtube that boasts about buying properties with no money out of his pocket and using other people's money from his "community" to pay for closing and carrying costs, said in a video in June that he had 10 Due on Sale called in AZ alone from Jan 2024 to May 2024. He didn't elaborate if there were others or which states. I don't really follow him, so I'm not sure how many have been called since or if he would actually state if he had. He uses poorly thought through methods, I've listened to his "methods",  Thus, he has the high amount of  Due On Sale called in a short period of time. 

    We stay away from doing things like he does them.

    I've only had 2 called in 30 years. The first, 16 or 17 years ago, was called 6 years after I bought the property. During that time the property had appreciated significantly and the seller was attempting a "shake down" to regain the property or get the appreciation, which he lost. His argument was that if he had not sold, he would have gotten that equity. Not a strong argument ;-) I still had to pay off the loan to cure the DOS. The second DOS was in 2020 when I bought enough properties using "subject to" that I couldn't keep up with rehabbing and some sat for a couple of months. One was taken over by some squatters causing problems for the neighbors and the police were contacted who contacted the lender. I paid off the loan to cure the DOS.

    There are a couple of "subto's gone bad" over in the creative finance forum. 

    Post: Subto FHA problem

    Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
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    • San Antonio, Dallas
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    Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
    Quote from @Ken M.:
    Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
    Quote from @Steve K.:
    Quote from @Alex Hall:
    Quote from @Zach Howard:
    Quote from @Ken M.:
    Quote from @Zach Howard:
    Quote from @Jay Hurst:
    Quote from @Zach Howard:

    @Ken M.

    Where and how can I most efficiently learn about subto in full detail? Any recommended reading materials, please. 

    Thanks. 


     If you are not well capitalized, meaning you can not pay off the loan if called, stay away from sub to. 


     Yes, I've heard this before and therefore, for the time being, if I get involved in any sub to deals, I'll keep them within the 200k limit (as I can pay this off if push comes to shove).

    However, I would still like to learn more about sub to, any guidance concerning reading materials would be greatly appreciated. 

    My concern is that you seem to be out of country. Subto is unpredictable in how it proceeds and 6 months down the road it could flare up. There really isn't a safe, secure way for someone to protect their interests. Even if buying a property Subto in GA and you live in FL, you could miss something and the whole deal does a "crash and burn". How available are you to fly into the state the property is in and deal with it? Are you a US citizen who understands how things work legally in the USA? 

     Perhaps valid concerns. I don't see how they relate to wanting to educate myself or asking for reading recommendations. 


    Zach, If you search Pace Morby on YouTube. He has an entire community that he teaches. He puts a lot of free content out there to learn from. 


     When his followers came on here about a year ago and spammed these forums with cult-like nonsense posts, I tried to watch a few videos of his and realized right away that a lot of what he was saying is very questionable. Whenever someone contradicts themselves in the first 30 seconds of a video, it makes me question everything they say after that. 

    This is the 2nd thread recently where people espousing his teachings have had issues using sub2 (see the recent one here from someone who was warned about the high risk of the strategies he teaches about a year ago but said he should be trusted "because he had a TV show on A&E": https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/50/topics/1225630-due-o... can't make this stuff up). I expect there will be many more issues with these transactions moving forward. 

    Sub2 is a risky strategy for a long term buy and hold as the longer the deal structure stays in place, the higher the chance that issues will arise (like issues with the loan servicer, insurance, seller filing for bankruptcy, seller dying, seller realizing their DTI ratio and ability to buy their next property is negatively effected and becoming upset about it like in your case, due on sale clause being called, etc.). Much better as a short term acquisition strategy for flips IMO but always a high-risk strategy that should not be practiced by anyone who doesn't have the liquid capital to pay off the loan if needed. Just my opinion.


    All of this. Personally, I like Pace and think he is a smart guy who cares about helping people, but the empire has overtaken the vision. The SubTo community has become bro-fueled tupperware sales and Acme/Avon downlines.

    Anything creative is best done with complete transparency and the entire premise of SubTo is not transparent. It's rarely fully transparent to the seller and never to the original lender. A lot of people get themselves in trouble by acting as a conduit to mild fraud or just general deceit within the rules.

    .

    Hmmm, he is bragging all over Youtube how he is making $150,000 from one guy's equity, on one transaction, by bailing him out of foreclosure.

    Who is he "helping"?

    In fact, he says he transferred the title to himself, to "protect" his "investment". He is encouraging his tribe to send him leads so he can do more of these. He is polluting subto. No wonder he is disliked on Bigger Pockets. 


    I mean originally, not now. Now it's an out of control machine with a lot of financial incestuous relationship in the tupperware farm.

    I like your analogy. It's spot on. In an interview with Grant Cardone, (who has an entirely different perspective on things than I do ;-) Morby said he wants to be a billionaire. That's quite a goal. It appears he is on a course of actions that will not change.

    Post: Subto FHA problem

    Ken M.#5 Market Trends & Data ContributorPosted
    • Investor
    • San Antonio, Dallas
    • Posts 773
    • Votes 448
    Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
    Quote from @Steve K.:
    Quote from @Alex Hall:
    Quote from @Zach Howard:
    Quote from @Ken M.:
    Quote from @Zach Howard:
    Quote from @Jay Hurst:
    Quote from @Zach Howard:

    @Ken M.

    Where and how can I most efficiently learn about subto in full detail? Any recommended reading materials, please. 

    Thanks. 


     If you are not well capitalized, meaning you can not pay off the loan if called, stay away from sub to. 


     Yes, I've heard this before and therefore, for the time being, if I get involved in any sub to deals, I'll keep them within the 200k limit (as I can pay this off if push comes to shove).

    However, I would still like to learn more about sub to, any guidance concerning reading materials would be greatly appreciated. 

    My concern is that you seem to be out of country. Subto is unpredictable in how it proceeds and 6 months down the road it could flare up. There really isn't a safe, secure way for someone to protect their interests. Even if buying a property Subto in GA and you live in FL, you could miss something and the whole deal does a "crash and burn". How available are you to fly into the state the property is in and deal with it? Are you a US citizen who understands how things work legally in the USA? 

     Perhaps valid concerns. I don't see how they relate to wanting to educate myself or asking for reading recommendations. 


    Zach, If you search Pace Morby on YouTube. He has an entire community that he teaches. He puts a lot of free content out there to learn from. 


     When his followers came on here about a year ago and spammed these forums with cult-like nonsense posts, I tried to watch a few videos of his and realized right away that a lot of what he was saying is very questionable. Whenever someone contradicts themselves in the first 30 seconds of a video, it makes me question everything they say after that. 

    This is the 2nd thread recently where people espousing his teachings have had issues using sub2 (see the recent one here from someone who was warned about the high risk of the strategies he teaches about a year ago but said he should be trusted "because he had a TV show on A&E": https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/50/topics/1225630-due-o... can't make this stuff up). I expect there will be many more issues with these transactions moving forward. 

    Sub2 is a risky strategy for a long term buy and hold as the longer the deal structure stays in place, the higher the chance that issues will arise (like issues with the loan servicer, insurance, seller filing for bankruptcy, seller dying, seller realizing their DTI ratio and ability to buy their next property is negatively effected and becoming upset about it like in your case, due on sale clause being called, etc.). Much better as a short term acquisition strategy for flips IMO but always a high-risk strategy that should not be practiced by anyone who doesn't have the liquid capital to pay off the loan if needed. Just my opinion.


    All of this. Personally, I like Pace and think he is a smart guy who cares about helping people, but the empire has overtaken the vision. The SubTo community has become bro-fueled tupperware sales and Acme/Avon downlines.

    Anything creative is best done with complete transparency and the entire premise of SubTo is not transparent. It's rarely fully transparent to the seller and never to the original lender. A lot of people get themselves in trouble by acting as a conduit to mild fraud or just general deceit within the rules.

    .

    Hmmm, he is bragging all over Youtube how he is making $150,000 from one guy's equity, on one transaction, by bailing him out of foreclosure.

    Who is he "helping"?

    In fact, he says he transferred the title to himself, to "protect" his "investment". He is encouraging his tribe to send him leads so he can do more of these. He is polluting subto. No wonder he is disliked on Bigger Pockets.