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All Forum Posts by: Kelly Olson

Kelly Olson has started 3 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: Contractor needed in Pittsburgh area

Kelly OlsonPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lyons, CO
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Theo Z.:
Keith Johnston or Andrew Vagley are well-suited. Feel free to DM me for contact info. Good luck

Theo, is Keith and Andrew still doing contract work in the area? If so, would you mind DMing me their contact information? 

Thanks!

Post: What software do you like to track your portfolio?

Kelly OlsonPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lyons, CO
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Bob Okenwa:

I've been using Stessa and am happy with that. Not a lot of bells and whistles, but it gets the job done and is free.


 Right on I've heard of that one. Haven't dug too deep into it. I'll check it out for sure!

Post: What software do you like to track your portfolio?

Kelly OlsonPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lyons, CO
  • Posts 28
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I have searched the forum a little, but wanted to throw my desires out there. I'm looking for a software to track my investment properties. I will be buying out of state for now, so I don't need one that is heavy on the receiving money part as my property manager will do that and he can pay any of my bank accounts. Looking for a good one that is strong in tracking the performance of the properties more than anything. I have looked at Baselane, Innago, Rentastic, and others. Baselane looks pretty good on the surface, but so do a lot of them. Which ones do you all use and recommend? Thanks!  

Post: If you could do it all over again...

Kelly OlsonPosted
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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Kelly Olson:

INVESTORS! If you could use the knowledge you have now and start from the beginning of your investing journey with $150k to start, how would you invest it to scale cash flow fast? 

I have spent a lot of time learning the brrrr method and feel comfortable with it. I am seriously considering using it in an affordable market to start out, but wanted to hear your opinion on other possible ways to scale cash flow quickly and efficiently.  

My goal is to build enough cashflow (probably 7-8k a month) to be able to quit my dead end job hopefully in the next few years (or sooner) and then do real estate investing full time. I have access to $150k in a HELOC and I'm ready to rock!


 I would have kept 50 or so of the 500 I flipped over the last 78 years, HUGE mistake selling them. With 150k, you can get a 4 unit maybe , then refi cash out and do again, 

All the best 


 78 years?! Dang! 

Post: If you could do it all over again...

Kelly OlsonPosted
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  • Lyons, CO
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Thanks for the encouragement! I'm going to do the J-O-B thing while attempting the RE side hustle. Wouldn't be the first time I had a side hustle going while working full-time. Just this time it will be with something that I am actually interested in. Currently living in my live-in-flip and that's the reason I'm able to pull a big chunk of equity and invest with that. Another live in flip might cost me my marriage :-)

Post: If you could do it all over again...

Kelly OlsonPosted
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Quote from @Jerry Lucker:
Quote from @Kelly Olson:

INVESTORS! If you could use the knowledge you have now and start from the beginning of your investing journey with $150k to start, how would you invest it to scale cash flow fast? 

I have spent a lot of time learning the brrrr method and feel comfortable with it. I am seriously considering using it in an affordable market to start out, but wanted to hear your opinion on other possible ways to scale cash flow quickly and efficiently.  

My goal is to build enough cashflow (probably 7-8k a month) to be able to quit my dead end job hopefully in the next few years (or sooner) and then do real estate investing full time. I have access to $150k in a HELOC and I'm ready to rock!

You may want to consider how I started over 20 years ago and am still doing today. I now own a nice portfolio of income producing real estate – virtually all of it purchased with cash by flipping mobile homes in mobile home parks. Why this unusual business model?

High profit margins! Consistently between 50% and 200%. Examples: 1) $8,000 total investment, sold for $24,000. 2) $20,000 total investment, sold for $40,000. 3) $60,000 total investment, sold for $95,000. 4) $100,000 total investment, sold for $160,000.

Most investors have no understanding of how or why this unique housing niche works the way it does. There are several unusual factors that make this possible. Mobile homes are considered personal property, not real estate. They are bought and sold quickly and easily - just like a car. Misconceptions and myths keep competition almost non-existent. The business model works the same way in 49 states (no mobiles in Hawaii).

I’m a big fan of real estate and BiggerPockets. I’m also a big fan of having a method to accumulate nice chunks of cash, rapidly, without borrowing (especially hard money).

May you have Great Fortune in your Endeavors!


 Jerry, I had no idea that mobile homes are considered personal property and not real estate. That's a nice little investment niche for sure. Good way to build up some capital! Looks like you had some great returns on the examples above.  

Post: If you could do it all over again...

Kelly OlsonPosted
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  • Lyons, CO
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Quote from @Nate Sanow:
Quote from @Kelly Olson:
Quote from @Mike Dymski:

I think house hacking and live in flips are a great way to start.  Good ways to learn the business with less risk.

If I could start over again, I would go bigger faster but that's not necessarily on deal #1.


 I live in my first flip now. Me and my family fell in love with it and looks like we are staying put for the time being. House hacking is awesome, but not ideal for my current situation. I'm leaning towards trying to get 2 brrrr deals going at once and rolling from there. 


 If going out of state and it’s your first brrrr, I’d suggest one at a time initially. I love the optimism and positive energy, but project management is no joke. Many investors don’t realize or want to accept but even if they hire a GC, they become a project manager. It swallows up time and money, and focusing on keeping people accountable will be really good. 

Just think, with one brrrr, your property count doubled. 

Once you do it, sure, go get 2, you will double again. I’m just suggesting, balance that wonderful faith and energy with some pause, it will go well for you. Best wishes.


 Sound advice! No matter how badly I want to hit the throttle I know in my head I need to take it one step at a time. Once I get my systems down I can move a little faster. Gotta keep the faith and energy at a steady idle until I'm ready to cruise.

Post: If you could do it all over again...

Kelly OlsonPosted
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  • Lyons, CO
  • Posts 28
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Quote from @Account Closed:

A simple yet somewhat complex one would be to correct my expectations. This is much more psychological so I want to break this down a bit.. I spent years watching folks pickup great deals while I sat on the sideline, not being as engaged as it would've taken to get going. After a while, being around people that were knocking it out the park with their BRRRRs, I figured I'd have just as easy a time with it and that wasn't the case. After a while, seeing the number of good deals dry up over the years left me disheartened but eventually I got the swing of things and took off. That said, it's important to start off within your risk tolerance but push yourself to grow. There's this theory called the power of small wins that emphasizes doing things that may have a high likelihood of success and growing from there. For a BRRRR, that may look like picking up a house that needs a minor cosmetic update, then grow into bigger and bigger renovations from there. You'll see yourself grow very quickly and it'll encourage you to get after it more & more. Get after it, you got it!

Love it! Thanks for sharing. I keep looking at several strategies in RE investing and keep circling back to brrrr. It just makes sense and I feel like I understand it enough on the surface level to be confident enough to grab a property and learn some more going through the actual process. 

Looks like you are in the Greensboro area. I took a hard look at the area to invest. With the popularity boom of nearby Raleigh, Durham, and Charlotte I was assuming the same may (or maybe already has) happen to the Greensboro Winston-Salem area. Cool area for you to be in!

Post: If you could do it all over again...

Kelly OlsonPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lyons, CO
  • Posts 28
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Quote from @Joe S.:
Quote from @Kelly Olson:
Quote from @Joe S.:
Quote from @Kelly Olson:
Quote from @Joe S.:

150 K to work with starting from nothing is where I figured this exercise would be Extremely flawed. You do realize that there are multiple investors that have Networth over several million that do not have $150,000 setting in their bank account. They are rolling their money and recycling their money and so there is no $150k cask. Now why in the world would a newbie be carrying 150 K with them? 
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If I would’ve started with 150 K I probably would’ve buried all my seed money in just a few deals and then I wouldn’t have it any longer. I have buried  chunks of working capital in deals before that looking back I should have Conserved a little bit better. When a person is brand new it’s very easy to bury your working capital into a few deals and then you’re setting on the sideline. There is a tremendous strength that comes from people that work their way up from the bottom. Not knocking anyone that did not have to do that, but I know I sure had to do that. It seems like yesterday I was signing contracts and hoping that the seller would not look out their window and see my $3k minivan. I remember signing contracts to buy houses and I didn’t even have a house of my own that I lived in. And no I’m not trying to get somebody to feel sorry for me because I didn’t feel sorry for myself. I was actually pretty happy and optimistic.


 I don't see how starting with $150k is flawed. It's in the form of a home equity line of credit. I don't have even a fraction of that in my savings account. If I didn't have that equity loan I would be getting another home loan to start. I'm sure a lot of people started similarly.


 Well it might not be flawed for you and congratulations on having $150,000 in equity. I’m curious the percentage of successful investors that started off with $150,000 in equity. I would guess very few.

I wish you well pulling it out with interest rates jacked up like they are at the moment.  And since you came out here asking questions I will let you know this…there is a large difference between $150,000 worth of equity and 150k in your bank.. 

No **** I'm 40 years old I get the difference.

I didn't start out with 150k. I earned it with my first property I bought and forced the appreciation on with saving up money and buying materials and working on it myself. Just happens to be my primary residence. That's a pretty successful first move I would say. I'm going to take that high rate HELOC and make more successful moves.

Congratulations on your success yet again. By your title I was assuming you was asking people what they would do if they had $150k and just starting out. I was not trying to be offensive and hope it was not received as thus. 
Have a blessed evening.


 I did receive it that way and that's why I got defensive. Thanks and sorry for getting snippy with you. 

Post: If you could do it all over again...

Kelly OlsonPosted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Lyons, CO
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Don Konipol:

In EVERY market, there are great opportunities; however, rarely are they readily apparent, except in hindsight.  When your goals necessitate large short term gains, you have to be willing to (1) work harder and longer on every deal (2) take more risk to invest in higher return investments (3) utilize a greater amount of debt to leverage your gains ( an hopefully not to magnify your loses and (4) spend a significant amount of time gaining knowledge of a specific real property market either geographic, property type, investmet type or all three.  


 Makes a lot of sense. I'm completely saturating myself with as much knowledge as I can about the targeted market and real estate in general. Fun stuff. Excited to get some deals going!