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All Forum Posts by: Keith O.

Keith O. has started 2 posts and replied 2 times.

Hello Everyone, 

So I just paid my house off and am now unconventionally financially independent. I say unconventionally (maybe this is the wrong word for this ..I don't know) because while I am able to net about $13-15k a year after all expenses and taxes, this is mainly due to me living in my basement and renting the rest of the house out. My house is nice, the basement is comfortable, I'm single, no kids, about to be 35, so I'm totally content with the situation. I have a small office building that is paid off and rented out as well, which makes up the rest of my total income thus far (I am currently not working). I also inherited another home that is fully paid off, but am letting a close elderly relative live there for free. So I have (3) paid off properties in total - My House $450k approx. value, small office approx. value $325k, and the inherited house approx. value $500k. When the inevitable happens, I will be able to rent the inherited house out as well, or sell it. I have no car payment, no student loans, etc. ..no other debts whatsoever. Along with the house, I did inherited two pieces of land that I intend to sell as well, approx. value for both lots is about $80k ..and just to complete my financial life story, I have about $300k in a retirement account that I no longer contribute to.

With that said, more to the point in question, I have an additional $355k sitting in a bank account right now, basically doing nothing. I was hot and heavy on purchasing another rental property for a while, but have since changed my mind because I really don't want to manage another property. Things are so seamless for me now and I'm enjoying the freedom so much that I kind of have this voice going off in the back of my mind, saying 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it!' every time I think about purchasing another rental property. Haha ..you know? I also have no interest in investing in the stock market at this point in time either. So ..I've convinced myself that a tax free state municipal bond fund is the way to go. I was thinking of putting $250k into one, with a tax free annual yield of 3%, which comes out to about $625 a month in return. This will help me stay in the lowest tax bracket and bump my net income up to about $20k a year. My thinking is that after doing this, I'll have about $100k left in the bank for emergency, I'm getting a nice return off of a pretty safe (???) $250k investment, and I can start investing this extra $20k annual income into riskier things like stocks throughout the years to come. My main train of thought here is that I have no family aside from one elderly person, I don't plan on having kids, so why make riskier investments to chase bigger returns that I won't be able to fully use or leave for anyone when I die? ..so I'm always thinking, 'just protect what you have, no need to chase huge returns, and when the time comes you can sell everything, buy a smaller/cheaper house, drive an old truck and live an easy/simple life until it's up'. I also have this idea that if my quality of life is currently good and I can live comfortably, why not just save some of that extra income and invest in stocks lightly, so I'll just have more to invest in stocks when the next, larger, market correction does come ..??? 

What are your thoughts on a state muni bond fund as a safe investment? Is $250k a lot to be putting into just one single bond fund? Any alternatives or other points of view from experieince? Would love to hear some thoughts on any or all parts of my spiel. Thanks guys! 

Hello Everyone, 

I'm about to turn 35, single/not married, no kids, and am currently living in my basement and renting the rest of the house out (which I am totally content with ..have no desire to live in a big empty house alone). I owe $315k on the house, interest rate of 5.5%, and have 20 years left until it's paid off. My mortgage payment is $2,750 a month + $400 in utilities (avg.). I'm currently getting $3,200.00 in rental income per month on the house. I also own a small office building that's fully paid off and rented out for $1,300.00 a month. I have $625k sitting in the bank (plus $300k in a retirement account) and no other debt. My thoughts are to go ahead and pay my house off, which will grant me financial independence. This is my primary goal ..kind of hitting the reset button on life. I'm no longer working (ran a business for 10 years and am done!) ..not saying I'll never work again, but would like to become financially independent first, so I can take my time figuring the rest of my life out. I understand that I could go out and start buying more houses right now to maximize rental income etc. but I don't want to manage anything else or at least not in the foreseeable future, but I'll still have $300k to work with if I change my mind after paying my house off. I'm young, healthy, and just want to enjoy a simple and stress free lifestyle. My CPA is totally against me paying off my house because I'll lose the tax write-off (I'm assuming) which I understand, but If doing so grants me financial independence, even if I have to pay some additional taxes every year, then so be it. I'll also be able to save about $10k a year after the house is paid off. I just don't see where I can go wrong here. I know there's a million ways to skin a cat and it comes down to personal preference, but my CPA seems so adamant about not paying my house off that it has me second guessing doing so. I could understand him or anyone else saying 'that's stupid, don't pay your house off' if I was the only one living in it, but it's generating $3,200.00 and month in rental income with the possibility of even more if/when I move out of the basement. I'd much rather have steady and reliable rental income financing my financial independence rather than trying to invest $315k into stocks and bonds to get the same outcome. I guess you could call this a 'no plan' plan. Any thoughts or other point of views ??? Anyone else doing anything like this ..kind of just living a low income / financially independent life? Thanks! If it makes any difference, I also own another house that's fully paid off, but currently does not generate any income ..a close 70yr old relative lives in it rent free, she does pay property taxes, insurance, and utilities. etc., so nothing is really coming out of my pocket, but that will be another source of income when the inevitable happens. I just don't see myself ever looking back and saying 'why did I pay my house off!?' ..what do you guys think? Thanks!