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All Forum Posts by: Keith Anderson

Keith Anderson has started 5 posts and replied 89 times.

Post: Skewed Property Data Sources

Keith AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Cambridge, MA
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 87

@Curt Davis RentFax

Post: Skewed Property Data Sources

Keith AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Cambridge, MA
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 87

Do you know what the source of data is? I'm a turnkey buyer and I use a data source I discovered when it was described as "proven" and a trusted source for lenders, so it may be the same tool.

Can you characterize how the score differs from your local market knowledge?

The reports I use deliver a score for a neighborhood that is intended as an indicator of rental income stability. But they also provide detail on crime (property & violent), education levels, schools, age & configuration of housing stock, owner occupancy rates, median home values, 10-year trailing appreciation and a few other factors. 

I take the score itself with a grain of salt, but I have found the detail is helpful for putting a neighborhood in context. It's only one factor in my evaluation, but it has helped me quickly identify which areas may be higher risk than I prefer.

The tool I use definitely does not consider the property itself, rehab work, quality of the property management team, etc--all of which I view as critical in addition to the neighborhood.

Post: Newbie from DFW, what REI strategy would you pursue if me?

Keith AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Cambridge, MA
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 87

@Alberto Camacho How would you suggest one educate themselves on that niche? We've been researching for a year and found next to nothing on joining syndicated apartment deals.

Post: Bought my first rental. Im not satisfied. I want more.

Keith AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Cambridge, MA
  • Posts 92
  • Votes 87
Originally posted by @Curt Davis:

BRRRR ???

 This one is an @Brandon Turner neologism:

  • Buy
  • Rehab
  • Rent
  • Refinance
  • Repeat

Per this article...

    Post: Chicago Property Management Company

    Keith AndersonPosted
    • Investor
    • Cambridge, MA
    • Posts 92
    • Votes 87

    I would just like to say that it's always refreshing to see a string of first posts from new users praising a company under fire. How serendipitous that a thread about their preferred property manager popped up the same day they discovered Bigger Pockets!

    Post: Disadvantages of investing in Turnkey

    Keith AndersonPosted
    • Investor
    • Cambridge, MA
    • Posts 92
    • Votes 87

    @John Lowe

    John, I'm not necessarily an "advocate" of turnkeys, but I am actively evaluating one of the larger turnkey operators in Chicago and considering an investment there. And I've been reading some of the same Daniel Kay Hertz material that you linked.

    The provider I'm considering focuses purely on single-family homes in the south suburbs. I've vetted around 30 of their properties and found 3-4 that I would consider buying. Though their focus is on SFRs, I think a majority of their inventory likely resembles what you've described (e.g. product priced based on the 1% rule in neighborhoods unlikely to appreciate.)

    That said, the handful of homes I've found do appear to me to have potential.

    These are homes in neighborhoods with average or above-average schools, 80-85%+ owner occupancy, very low crime, and trailing 5-year average appreciation of 2.5-5%. 

    The homes are priced at 5-10% below the median home value in their broader neighborhood and appear to be selling close to fair market value based on my comps analysis.

    I wouldn't have tons of equity going in, I'd pay considerably more for this "quality" than if I just bought from their core inventory, and my returns on paper (using all of my diligence and conservative assumptions) look way lower than the pro formas.

    But given that I do plan to hold for 15-20 years minimum and don't intend to get much more hands-on than periodic market tours and some spreadsheet jockeying, I think there may still be a fit here.

    Post: Vertically-integrated Turnkey Providers

    Keith AndersonPosted
    • Investor
    • Cambridge, MA
    • Posts 92
    • Votes 87

    I can see now why people get hung up on vocabulary. Ask 10 people what a term means and you'll get 10 answers.

    In classic definitions, vertical integration is defined as all (or most) of a supply chain being owned by a single company. In my industry (retail), American Apparel is a good example of a chain that talks about being vertically integrated in this sense. They've integrated manufacturing, distribution, and retail within one company.

    Turnkey operators are best thought of as vertically integrated under the classic definition. They own the full "supply chain" of acquiring, rehabbing, and managing the properties. It isn't about management style or culture, it's about which elements of the supply and production chain are under one roof.

    Post: Recommendations of Kansas City Real Estate Attorneys

    Keith AndersonPosted
    • Investor
    • Cambridge, MA
    • Posts 92
    • Votes 87
    Originally posted by @Aaron B.:
    .

    @ KeithAnderson - I will be investing using leverage, the typical 20/25 percent down. I am curious about why that question. I am guessing if I am investing all cash I am more exposed, but let me know if I am missing something. 

    Like you, I'm a new investor. But as I understand it many lenders will not lend to LLCs. I've always seen asset protection discussed as a choice between an LLC or an umbrella policy; I can't recall seeing discussion of both at once.

    Don't read my question/comments as concluding your plan isn't sound. I'm researching myself and just wanted to compare notes.

    Post: Recommendations of Kansas City Real Estate Attorneys

    Keith AndersonPosted
    • Investor
    • Cambridge, MA
    • Posts 92
    • Votes 87

    @Aaron B.

    Are you planning to buy the properties with all cash?

    Post: Vertically-integrated Turnkey Providers

    Keith AndersonPosted
    • Investor
    • Cambridge, MA
    • Posts 92
    • Votes 87
    Originally posted by @Hattie Dizmond:

    2.  (This is the route I take, as we provide a subset of the services you describe.)  I simply tell people we provide services to out of market investors, and they are welcome to PM me, if they would like additional information.  Once I receive a PM from them, to ensure I'm not abusing the purpose of BP, I ask them to send me an email, so I can so I can respond our service catalog and investor screening material.  Taking this approach puts a little more burden on the investor asking the question, but it ensure I can't be accused of spamming or anything like that.

    Hattie, I just tried to PM you but apparently you've previously denied my connection request. Would like more info on your services for out of state investors.