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All Forum Posts by: Keira Hamilton

Keira Hamilton has started 5 posts and replied 55 times.

Post: 5 Lessons Learned From Selling My Laundromat

Keira HamiltonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 68
Quote from @Tami R.:

@Keira Hamilton. Just out of curiosity how long did you own the laundromat. My husband keeps wanting to make one of our buildings into a laundromat and I am so hesitant seems like a lot of work.


 We owned it for 16 months. They definitely can be a lot of work! It really depends on what kinds of services you offer, how consistent your employees are (if you have any), and the quality of the equipment. I offer consultations if you ever want to chat further. Feel free to shoot me a message.

Post: 5 Lessons Learned From Selling My Laundromat

Keira HamiltonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 68
Quote from @Michael K Gallagher:

@Keira Hamilton thank you so much for putting this together, you clearly put a lot of time a thought into it.  This is the kind of content that makes these forumns trully unique and although I am not in the laundry biz, I see paralells to all aspects of negotiating and generally "getting deals done" regardless of the asset being traded.

Thank you again, I especially thought the "being a good buyer" section was enlightening and something I know I need to coach my buyers more on up front.  


 Thank you for the feedback, Michael! I'm glad to hear this content is helpful for folks.

Post: 5 Lessons Learned From Selling My Laundromat

Keira HamiltonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 68
Quote from @Ken Almira:

This is a very thoughtful post. I appreciate the knowledge you've shared with your experience as both a buyer and a seller. I'd love to hear more about your experiences and what draw you to take that first step in both buying a business and subsequently selling that business if you'd be open to it. 


 Thanks for your comment! I talk a lot about these topics on my YouTube channel @Keira_Hamilton.

Post: Bay Area Eviction - $9k Cleaning Invoice

Keira HamiltonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 68

Not sure if the link is visible in the post. I'll try posting again here.

Post: Bay Area Eviction - $9k Cleaning Invoice

Keira HamiltonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 68

Warning: This video is GROSS. Do not watch while eating!

After 6 months of non-payment, we were able to perform an eviction for this tenant. The cleaning costs alone were over $9k. In total, including money lost from rent, legal fees, and repairs, the situation cost almost $30k.

Post: 5 Lessons Learned From Selling My Laundromat

Keira HamiltonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 68
Quote from @Don Konipol:
Quote from @Keira Hamilton:

Here are 5 lessons I learned from selling my laundromat last year that can help you as a prospective business buyer.

Lesson 1️⃣ - Listing sites can be a legitimate way to buy and sell a business.

I will often hear people say that they’re not even going on listing sites because “they only have bottom of the barrel listings,” but this has not been my personal experience. I found my laundromat on BizBuySell, and I sold it through that site as well.

I still absolutely think it’s worth networking with business brokers and doing direct outreach to business owners, but you don’t need to take listing sites off the table.

If you’re sending out a lot of outreach messages on listing sites and you’re not hearing anything back, it may have more to do with you than the platform.

The number one mistake that I saw buyers making was jumping right into negotiating (and not very good negotiating at that) without first spending the time to build rapport. Things like:

🚫 “I need seller financing. How much will you offer?”

🚫 “This seems priced too high. Shouldn’t it be at a lower multiple?”

Here’s the thing. I was willing to offer some seller financing, and I was fine discussing the multiple. But I have to get to know you first.

The buyers I resonated with, who I believed in as operators–those were the people I was willing to be flexible with. Those were the situations where I was looking for ways to make it work.

Don’t come out the gate haggling, or even discussing the terms at all. Introduce yourself. Why are you interested in this business? Why should the broker/seller take you seriously? What are you bringing to the table?

There will be time to negotiate. But it shouldn’t feel like a fight.

I guarantee you are more likely to secure favorable terms if the seller likes you and can imagine you as a great operator for the business. It’s your job to convince them of this.

Lesson 2️⃣ - When selling a business, there are a lot of time wasters. Don’t be one of them.

There were different ways that potential buyers wasted my time. Some had clearly heard about buying a laundromat on YouTube and just wanted someone to listen to their brilliant plan to buy five laundromats in the next year.

Some were unwilling to provide proof of funds. But I didn’t need to worry–they had a lot of money!

Some went through the process of signing the NDA, providing proof of funds, and having multiple conversations, only to end up ghosting me.

I think what a lot of this comes down to is that many people start looking for a business before they’ve figured out for themselves what it is they really want, and what they can actually execute on.

Here are a couple of the common misconceptions I encountered from buyers:

🚫 You can close on multiple acquisitions within a year.

Sure, it can be done. But I usually heard this from people who had never owned a business before, didn’t have the cash to back up their plans, and often were planning to maintain full time jobs.

My advice: Start with one business. Really learn how to be an operator. Yes, you can expand (and SBA has some great options for that), but the basis for a strong expansion is really understanding how the business works. And that takes time.

🚫 You can rely on seller financing to get deals done.

A good number of the folks who reached out needed 30% or more seller financing to close. While I was open to carrying a note, I wasn’t going to go that high.

Unfortunately, there’s been an unrealistic expectation set by the gurus that relying on seller financing is a viable strategy for buying a business. And while seller financing is a very common practice in business acquisition, the good deals are not being done with high levels of it.

Particularly with smaller deals, and especially with a business like a laundromat, there are cash buyers out there. If you find a seller willing to carry a large note, that business is likely going to need a significant time and money investment from you post-close.

Lesson 3️⃣ - It’s not that hard to be a good buyer. Here’s how.

✅ Do your research to learn what is realistic.

Spend time really considering what type of business is going to be the best fit for you based on your experience and how you want to spend your time once you are the owner. Also consider how you plan to finance your acquisition and what size business is feasible based on your current liquidity.

✅ Focus on making a good first impression and building rapport.

This starts with getting honest with yourself about what you’re looking for and how you plan to execute. Brokers and sellers need to be able to envision you as a good operator for the business, and they have to believe you can actually get the deal done.

Your initial outreach should not get into numbers. You should not start the conversation trying to secure a seller note or haggle for a lower purchase price. Simply start by introducing yourself and why you’re interested in the business.

Remember that for most owners, their business is very personal to them. They’ve likely invested a considerable amount of time and money into it. Keep this in mind as you interact with them. When you’re explaining your interest in the business, don’t just talk about the numbers. What about the business personally resonates with you?

✅ Demonstrate that you are a good person to work with.

Be responsive, transparent, and friendly.

When I was assessing buyers, I wasn’t just looking at how much cash they had. I was also looking at whether or not they were someone I wanted to work with. I knew that we were going to have a lot of back and forth, and that there would likely be a problem at some point that we would need to solve together.

I needed to have confidence that whoever I signed an LOI with wasn't going to back out at the last minute for a silly reason. I didn't want to be waiting days for them to get back to me about edits to the purchase agreement. I wanted to work with someone who was going to pick up the phone when I called.

From your first interaction with a broker/seller, show through your words and actions that you are honest and reliable.

Lesson 4️⃣ - Buyers and sellers become business partners.

I truly think one of the biggest oversights in due diligence is the seller themselves. The fact of the matter is, when you sell or buy a business, you are entering into a business partnership with the person on the other end of the transaction.

Yes, the partnership is limited (partial buyouts aside), but what you will be accomplishing during your time together is significant.

Due diligence can take months. More than likely, you’re going to encounter some kind of problem or unexpected circumstance at some point. And you want the person you’re doing business with (your buyer or seller) to be someone you can rely on to work with you, not against you.

This might seem like a silly word to use in the context of these very official business transactions, but I stand by it: You have to pay attention to vibe.

You know when you’re not getting a good feeling from someone. You can tell when someone seems a little shady–when it feels like they’re not quite giving you the whole story.

If I were considering a business to buy and everything looked fantastic on paper, but I wasn’t getting a good feeling from the seller, I’m not buying that business.

Because as someone who has sold a business, I know there are things I could have hidden from my buyer. Things they wouldn’t have realized until I had their money and there was no going back.

It goes both ways. You need to feel out your seller and determine if this is someone you want to partner with. You also have to show that you’re a good person to do business with, because they’ll be making the same assessment of you.

Lesson 5️⃣ - Business is about people.

It seems simple, but I see it so often overlooked, both by the people I work with who are seeking to buy businesses, and by a lot of the people who were interested in my business.

Too often, I see folks get too caught up in their spreadsheets. They’re so excited about the SDE or the margins or the multiple, they lose sight of the bigger picture.

Business is personal. It’s personal to the seller, who’s likely devoted a considerable amount of time and money to their operation. It’s personal to the employees, who are directly impacted by the work culture of the business and rely on it as a source of income. And it’s about to be very personal to you as the one who is going to be responsible for it, and maybe have a significant debt to pay back on it.

The vast majority of business owners selling their business genuinely want to see it continue to succeed, even if it has no monetary impact on them. They want someone who is going to treat their employees and their customers well. Someone who is going to continue the legacy that they built.

That’s exactly how I felt. And I saw firsthand how a seller’s personal view of a potential buyer could impact the deal. For example, there were certain buyers I was willing to offer seller financing to. These were people who showed a genuine interest in learning and growing the business. They asked good questions. They were transparent and responsive.

And there were other people I was definitely not open to offering seller financing to. These were people who seemed more interested in adding an investment to their portfolio than really operating a business. They would ask me a question and then interrupt me as I answered. They took a long time to respond to emails.

As you embark on or continue your business buying journey in the new year, I know you are going to see more opportunities come your way and experience more success if you can remember this lesson.

Between 1981 and 1999 I purchased 8 businesses, while also being a part time real estate investor.  In 2000 I sold the businesses and became a “full time” real estate investor.  This analysis of how to buy a small business is the absolute BEST I have ever come across!  While I believe I operated with many of these strategies and tactics EVENTUALLY, I spent a long time “spinning my wheels” early on when trying to negotiate before establishing a rapport.  The purchase and sale of a business requires a lot more personal involvement than the purchase and sale of real property.  Real estate is basically an income producing and or capital gain producing investment.  Businesses are “living” organisms with a life of their own, usually having deep meaning to their owners.   Many business owners are deeply concerned with the future treatment of their employees, equipment, image, customers, etc.  As I stated, GREAT POST

 Thanks so much, Don! :)

Post: 5 Lessons Learned From Selling My Laundromat

Keira HamiltonPosted
  • San Diego, CA
  • Posts 58
  • Votes 68

Here are 5 lessons I learned from selling my laundromat last year that can help you as a prospective business buyer.

Lesson 1️⃣ - Listing sites can be a legitimate way to buy and sell a business.

I will often hear people say that they’re not even going on listing sites because “they only have bottom of the barrel listings,” but this has not been my personal experience. I found my laundromat on BizBuySell, and I sold it through that site as well.

I still absolutely think it’s worth networking with business brokers and doing direct outreach to business owners, but you don’t need to take listing sites off the table.

If you’re sending out a lot of outreach messages on listing sites and you’re not hearing anything back, it may have more to do with you than the platform.

The number one mistake that I saw buyers making was jumping right into negotiating (and not very good negotiating at that) without first spending the time to build rapport. Things like:

🚫 “I need seller financing. How much will you offer?”

🚫 “This seems priced too high. Shouldn’t it be at a lower multiple?”

Here’s the thing. I was willing to offer some seller financing, and I was fine discussing the multiple. But I have to get to know you first.

The buyers I resonated with, who I believed in as operators–those were the people I was willing to be flexible with. Those were the situations where I was looking for ways to make it work.

Don’t come out the gate haggling, or even discussing the terms at all. Introduce yourself. Why are you interested in this business? Why should the broker/seller take you seriously? What are you bringing to the table?

There will be time to negotiate. But it shouldn’t feel like a fight.

I guarantee you are more likely to secure favorable terms if the seller likes you and can imagine you as a great operator for the business. It’s your job to convince them of this.

Lesson 2️⃣ - When selling a business, there are a lot of time wasters. Don’t be one of them.

There were different ways that potential buyers wasted my time. Some had clearly heard about buying a laundromat on YouTube and just wanted someone to listen to their brilliant plan to buy five laundromats in the next year.

Some were unwilling to provide proof of funds. But I didn’t need to worry–they had a lot of money!

Some went through the process of signing the NDA, providing proof of funds, and having multiple conversations, only to end up ghosting me.

I think what a lot of this comes down to is that many people start looking for a business before they’ve figured out for themselves what it is they really want, and what they can actually execute on.

Here are a couple of the common misconceptions I encountered from buyers:

🚫 You can close on multiple acquisitions within a year.

Sure, it can be done. But I usually heard this from people who had never owned a business before, didn’t have the cash to back up their plans, and often were planning to maintain full time jobs.

My advice: Start with one business. Really learn how to be an operator. Yes, you can expand (and SBA has some great options for that), but the basis for a strong expansion is really understanding how the business works. And that takes time.

🚫 You can rely on seller financing to get deals done.

A good number of the folks who reached out needed 30% or more seller financing to close. While I was open to carrying a note, I wasn’t going to go that high.

Unfortunately, there’s been an unrealistic expectation set by the gurus that relying on seller financing is a viable strategy for buying a business. And while seller financing is a very common practice in business acquisition, the good deals are not being done with high levels of it.

Particularly with smaller deals, and especially with a business like a laundromat, there are cash buyers out there. If you find a seller willing to carry a large note, that business is likely going to need a significant time and money investment from you post-close.

Lesson 3️⃣ - It’s not that hard to be a good buyer. Here’s how.

✅ Do your research to learn what is realistic.

Spend time really considering what type of business is going to be the best fit for you based on your experience and how you want to spend your time once you are the owner. Also consider how you plan to finance your acquisition and what size business is feasible based on your current liquidity.

✅ Focus on making a good first impression and building rapport.

This starts with getting honest with yourself about what you’re looking for and how you plan to execute. Brokers and sellers need to be able to envision you as a good operator for the business, and they have to believe you can actually get the deal done.

Your initial outreach should not get into numbers. You should not start the conversation trying to secure a seller note or haggle for a lower purchase price. Simply start by introducing yourself and why you’re interested in the business.

Remember that for most owners, their business is very personal to them. They’ve likely invested a considerable amount of time and money into it. Keep this in mind as you interact with them. When you’re explaining your interest in the business, don’t just talk about the numbers. What about the business personally resonates with you?

✅ Demonstrate that you are a good person to work with.

Be responsive, transparent, and friendly.

When I was assessing buyers, I wasn’t just looking at how much cash they had. I was also looking at whether or not they were someone I wanted to work with. I knew that we were going to have a lot of back and forth, and that there would likely be a problem at some point that we would need to solve together.

I needed to have confidence that whoever I signed an LOI with wasn't going to back out at the last minute for a silly reason. I didn't want to be waiting days for them to get back to me about edits to the purchase agreement. I wanted to work with someone who was going to pick up the phone when I called.

From your first interaction with a broker/seller, show through your words and actions that you are honest and reliable.

Lesson 4️⃣ - Buyers and sellers become business partners.

I truly think one of the biggest oversights in due diligence is the seller themselves. The fact of the matter is, when you sell or buy a business, you are entering into a business partnership with the person on the other end of the transaction.

Yes, the partnership is limited (partial buyouts aside), but what you will be accomplishing during your time together is significant.

Due diligence can take months. More than likely, you’re going to encounter some kind of problem or unexpected circumstance at some point. And you want the person you’re doing business with (your buyer or seller) to be someone you can rely on to work with you, not against you.

This might seem like a silly word to use in the context of these very official business transactions, but I stand by it: You have to pay attention to vibe.

You know when you’re not getting a good feeling from someone. You can tell when someone seems a little shady–when it feels like they’re not quite giving you the whole story.

If I were considering a business to buy and everything looked fantastic on paper, but I wasn’t getting a good feeling from the seller, I’m not buying that business.

Because as someone who has sold a business, I know there are things I could have hidden from my buyer. Things they wouldn’t have realized until I had their money and there was no going back.

It goes both ways. You need to feel out your seller and determine if this is someone you want to partner with. You also have to show that you’re a good person to do business with, because they’ll be making the same assessment of you.

Lesson 5️⃣ - Business is about people.

It seems simple, but I see it so often overlooked, both by the people I work with who are seeking to buy businesses, and by a lot of the people who were interested in my business.

Too often, I see folks get too caught up in their spreadsheets. They’re so excited about the SDE or the margins or the multiple, they lose sight of the bigger picture.

Business is personal. It’s personal to the seller, who’s likely devoted a considerable amount of time and money to their operation. It’s personal to the employees, who are directly impacted by the work culture of the business and rely on it as a source of income. And it’s about to be very personal to you as the one who is going to be responsible for it, and maybe have a significant debt to pay back on it.

The vast majority of business owners selling their business genuinely want to see it continue to succeed, even if it has no monetary impact on them. They want someone who is going to treat their employees and their customers well. Someone who is going to continue the legacy that they built.

That’s exactly how I felt. And I saw firsthand how a seller’s personal view of a potential buyer could impact the deal. For example, there were certain buyers I was willing to offer seller financing to. These were people who showed a genuine interest in learning and growing the business. They asked good questions. They were transparent and responsive.

And there were other people I was definitely not open to offering seller financing to. These were people who seemed more interested in adding an investment to their portfolio than really operating a business. They would ask me a question and then interrupt me as I answered. They took a long time to respond to emails.

As you embark on or continue your business buying journey in the new year, I know you are going to see more opportunities come your way and experience more success if you can remember this lesson.

Quote from @Eric Bilderback:

Very cool thank you for the post.

I have thought about a laundry mat with 3 apartments on top in my town, I even know the lot I want to put it on.  Is that eligible for an SBA loan?  They will not finance new construction correct?  SBA will loan on real estate correct I believe I have heard that is a good strategy do you have an opinion there?


SBA loans can be used for new construction, but that's not my area of expertise so I can't be too helpful there. SBA loans can also be used to purchase existing real estate, as long as at least 51% of the square footage is owner occupied (so occupied by your business). SBA loans can also be used to acquire laundromats, but it can be tough for a few reasons, some of which apply to smaller size businesses in general.

1) Cash nature of the business - This is changing over time as more mats are gaining card systems, but there are still mats out there that only take cash. It can be tough to verify that revenue, and owners aren't always reporting all of it on their tax returns. SBA lenders underwrite to the tax returns, so if those don't show a profit (at or least a profit after reasonable add backs), you likely don't have a deal.

2) Lack of documentation - SBA is doc heavy. Mom and pop shops aren't always keeping good records, which can be a huge detriment when trying to sell.

3) Cash competition - There are many laundromats for sale under $500k. At that price point, a seller's chances of finding a cash buyer go way up. Just because you find a laundromat that could qualify for SBA doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to use an SBA loan to buy it if you're beat out by a cash offer.

4) Historical cash flow - SBA lenders typically want to see 3 years of historical cash flow. I don't know if this is a recent trend that's come about with the rise in popularity of laundromats, but I've noticed more "fix & flip" situations on the market - mats being sold by owners who have owned for 1-3 years and put some significant improvements in. They want to sell based on the last 6 months to a year of cash flow, but SBA needs to see more history.

Overall, you stand a greater chance of using an SBA loan to buy a larger laundromat. They're more likely to have clean and accurate financials and you're less likely to be in competition with cash buyers.

Quote from @Robert Ruschak:

That is a great story.  Why did you decide to exit out of a laundromat after holding it for a short period of time and putting in all that time and effort?  


Thanks for the question! I actually made a YouTube video answering this question in greater depth, but I'll summarize here. 

Laundromats are not passive income, particularly when there is a wash & fold service. We were basically on call whenever the laundromat was open. It was tough for my husband and I to be out of town at the same time, even for a couple days. We were always juggling who was on the phone.

We had at most 2 employees on our payroll at one time, so if one called out sick there was a very good chance we needed to go in and cover. We considered hiring a manager, but we didn't have the cash flow to pay for a quality one and still be making enough for the endeavor to be worth it to us. I think this is a big misconception with laundromats, and even other small businesses. People think they're just going to hire a manager to solve all their problems and make the investment passive for them, but it's not that simple.


We got to a point where we didn't want to be on call anymore. We decided we needed to either double down and buy probably 2 more laundromats to have the cash flow for a manager, or sell. It would have been a different story if we were selling at a loss or a very small gain, but we were happy with the profit we made from the sale, and more importantly the experience we gained, so all the time and effort felt worth it to us.

Quote from @Joe Derobertis:

@Keira Hamilton can you suggest any forums similar to this one but specific to laundromats?  I’m in the process of evaluating the purchase of a laundromat and looking to engage with some folks to ask some questions. 

Thanks in advance!!


That's a good question. Planet Laundry might be useful to you, but I'm not sure if they have a forum. I host weekly small group office hours focused on laundromats and other small business acquisitions. You're welcome to stop by sometime. I also do one-on-one consultations. Links are on my YouTube page.https://www.youtube.com/@Keira_Hamilton