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All Forum Posts by: Kee Lee

Kee Lee has started 1 posts and replied 36 times.

Quote from @Greg M.:

Spend a couple hundred dollars and have an attorney draft a f*** off letter. 

Dear Tenant:

As you are aware, the water leak was directly caused by your failure to change the air filter. It is your responsibility to change the air filter to prevent this from occurring (see Lease, page 3, paragraph 2). 

Your negligence in failure to change the air filter has directly caused me to incur significant expenses. Not only did I have to hire someone to diagnose and remedy the cause of the leak, as well as dry the affected area, but I am now facing a $12,000 expense to remediate the mold your negligence caused.

Due to your negligence causing these large expenses, it is necessary for me to file a claim with your renters insurance policy. If you also have losses that you feel may be covered under your renters insurance policy, I suggest you do the same. However, I bear no responsibility for your damages as they were directly caused by your negligent actions.

Sincerely,

Landlord

PS: Your rent will be going up due to this!!

Wow thanks so much for your advice, I will present this to my attorney and see what he says.  I tried to be nice and work this out privately offered them around 6k compensation package now they want like year of free rent (24K) and 8k in cash, these are section 8 tenants.  They were paying only 350 and 2100 from section 8 but now since Jan 2024 they pay 2100 only 350 is covered by section 8, not sure what happened. But did hire a mold remediation company and there is definitely mold there, estimate is 10k, time is of the essence so I asked my property manager to go ahead and remediate.  Sometimes niceness doesn't payoff :-(

Yeah definitely does say in the lease that the tenant is responsible to change the air fileters which cause the water to leak to the floors.  But not trying to go that legal route but they want a full years of free rent about 30K smh!

Quote from @Owen Rosen:
Quote from @Kee Lee:

Ah I didn't know, thanks for the info Russell, what a headache!


 The coverage amount probably isn't the main issue.  Insurance in most cases only cover mold/fungus IF the mold was caused by a covered loss.  

So, if mold simply develops over time and has nothing to do with a claimable situation like a pipe bursting, it won't be covered at all.

Beyond that, there is likely a sublimit for mold as mentioned by Ken IF there is coverage at all.  That limit could vary greatly from policy to policy and many policies will exclude mold altogether even if caused by a covered loss.  


 The mold I think was a result of water leak from an HVAC unit.

Quote from @Paul S.:
Holy moly!  That's almost hilarious.  That's the mold test?  Agar plates?  You can put those things in any non-sterile environment and they will be covered in all sorts of yucky stuff in a week.  A really good one is to wash your hair really well, then put a piece of hair on one of those things.  You will wanna shave your head bald.

Do some googling, most of those home test kits are a scam.  Every test kit comes back as positive and they get to market you remediation.

I would talk to your tenant and try to sus out their motivation.  Sometimes people are trying to get out of things, sometimes they are just plain irrational.  I had a tenant that wanted me to check the sewer line multiple times because someone was sneaking into her house through it.

Don't be afraid to come back with a shrug and a "ok...I guess I'll see you in court".  Everyone thinks they can sue for everything until an attorney tells them to give them a 5k retainer to just file the initial paperwork.  If you have made a reasonable effort to address anything that may cause mold you're fine.  If you have further questions, call your insurance company, they will be able to give you some insight into your liabilities since chances are they will be representing you for a mold claim.

Lastly, you can call a remediation company for a quote.  I have no idea what the cost would be for some sort of them spraying stuff all over the place, but it might be a small expense compared to losing a valuable tenant.



I have mold in one of my units and the quote is 12k to remediate caused from water leaking from HVAC unit due to dirty air filter that the tenant didn't replace (really bad since they have cats)  I hear the cap that insurance companies pay is 5K, what a headache!  Tenant doesn't have renters insurance so looks like rest have to come out of my pocket!

Ah I didn't know, thanks for the info Russell, what a headache!

Hi If anyone can give some advice

About 8 months ago in June 2023, tenant complained of water leakage in one of the rooms, I sent my handyman to take a look and looks like the HVAC air filter was completely blocked, it caused alot of water to leak onto the floor.  At the time the tenants wanted compensation for many shoes and much clothes that was on the floor and have been damaged.  I told them I can't claim it through insurance since it was due to the fact they (the tenant) didn't replace the air filter.  I did have the handy guy clean and dry off the area on two or three separate occasions.

Moving forward to two weeks ago, they are complaining of mold and now sickness, I hired a property manager to deal with this.  He hired a mold remediation company and looks like there is significant amount of mold and the cost estimate to remediate is coming to 12k.  Also looks like the tenant wants in the range of 10k for compensation.  So hence the question is do I call my insurance company or handle it privately?

Thx

KJ