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All Forum Posts by: Kay Nemen

Kay Nemen has started 3 posts and replied 11 times.

Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Kay Nemen you're making typical rookie mistake of ASSUMING that all PMCs provide the same services and EXECUTE those services exactly the same way.

You're solely focusing on costs instead of HOW their PROCESSES will effectively manage your investment.

So, you'll get exactly what you pay for - good or bad.

Thank you so much, Michael. I am a complete rookie when it comes to working with PMCs, so thank you for all the information. I will follow @Nathan Gesner's advice and ask them about their work process (maintenance, late rent, eviction, etc) and do more research. Besides that, do you have any tips on what to ask them or anything specific I should pay attention to? 

Thank you again! 

Quote from @Joe Funari:

@Kay Nemen I would recommend you reach out to @Kyle Mccaw with McCaw Property Management. https://mccawpropertymanagement.com/ They manage all my rentals in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area for many years. I worked for a PM in high school and college years. So I know what to look for in a good PM. I would recommend you stay away from small independent PM's that manage less than 200 doors. Their maintenance people aren't very good based on my personal experience. Also, franchise PM's there always seem to be a disconnect and long delays in responses to questions or concerns. McCaw is a local company. Kyle is the owner and fellow investor/broker. State of Texas requires PM's to have a real estate license. So the good one's will typically have their brokerage license by now because of their many years of experience. @Russell Brazil is absolutely correct on not focusing on just rates. McCaw does perform annual inspections with full reports with photos on all the rentals the manage. This has been very helpful to me in managing my rentals. Also, you are blind copied in on all work orders tenants submit. So you can stay on top of the PM with regards to maintenance. Not all PM's offer this. Also, each year at renewal of leases McCaw sends current rent comps with recommendations for lease renewal fees. Treat your long term rentals like a business and you will succeed. Any further questions please let me know. 


 Thank you, Joe. I will give them a call today.

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

Hmm...I have great reviews and my owners are very happy.

Fees are only one part of the picture. You need to know what services they provide in exchange for those fees.

Remember: cheaper doesn't mean you'll make more money.

Start by going to www.narpm.org to search their directory of managers. These are professionals with additional training and a stricter code of ethics. It's no guarantee but it's a good place to start. You can also search Google and read reviews. Try interviewing at least three managers.

1. Ask how many units they manage and how much experience they have. Feel free to inquire about their staff qualifications if it's a larger organization.

2. Review their management agreement. Make sure it explicitly explains the process for termination if you are unhappy with their services, especially if they violate the terms of your agreement.

3. Understand the fees involved and calculate the total cost for an entire year of management so you can compare the different managers. It may sound nice to pay a 6% management fee but the extra fees can add up to be more than the other company that charges 10% with no additional fees. Fees should be clearly stated in writing, easy to understand, and justifiable. Common fees will include a set-up fee, a leasing fee for each turnover or a lease renewal fee, marking up maintenance, retaining late fees, and more. If you ask the manager to justify a fee and he starts hemming and hawing, move on or require them to remove the fee. Don't be afraid to negotiate, particularly if you have a lot of rentals.

4. Review their lease agreement and addenda. Consider all the things that could go wrong and see if the lease addresses them: unauthorized pets or tenants, early termination, security deposit, lease violations, late rent, eviction, lawn maintenance, parking, etc.

5. Don't just read the lease! Ask the manager to explain their process for dealing with maintenance, late rent, evictions, turnover, etc. If they are professional, they can explain this quickly and easily. If they are VERY professional, they will have their processes in writing as verification that policies are enforced equally and fairly by their entire staff.

6. Ask to speak with some of their current owners and current/former tenants. You can also check their reviews online at Google, Facebook, or Yelp. Just remember: most negative reviews are written by problematic tenants. A tenant complaining online might indicate that the property manager handled them appropriately, so be sure to ask the manager for their side of the story.

7. Look at their marketing strategy. Are they doing everything possible to expose properties to the broadest possible market? Are their listings detailed with good-quality photos? Can they prove how long it takes to rent a vacant property?

This isn't inclusive but should give you a good start. If you have specific questions about property management, I'll be happy to help!


 Thank you so much!! 

Quote from @Russell Brazil:

Like any service based business, you're going to encounter a variety of types of fee structures. You might find people that charge low rates, high rates, lots of fees, no fees.

I'd focus on competency. One of the things that sucks in real estate in general is the crappy companies usually charge the same as the good companies.

Thank you, Russell. They all have great reviews. Do you have any tips on finding the best-suited PMC? (Any specific questions I should ask? Or is there anything I should pay attention to during initial calls)?
During my first calls, I ran my current situation through them and sent them the inspection report with pictures, asking for their feedback on the rent and possible repairs. One of the PMCs basically said they couldn't elaborate on that until we signed the agreement. This left a slightly bitter taste in my mouth, but I'm not sure if I approached it in the wrong way. 

Thanks again!! 

Hi all! Newbie here. I just purchased my first rental property and am in the process of looking for a good PMC to manage it. I spoke to 3 PM companies, 2 of them being RE brokers and property managers. This is my first time using a PMC, so I'd really appreciate some help from all of you. Here are my questions -

1. One charges a one-time onboarding fee and lease renewal fees, while the other two don't. Are those fees common?

2. One is a franchise PM company, and the person I spoke to seems to be very knowledgeable. She went in-depth to talk about maximizing rent and correcting all the safety issues that were mentioned in the inspection report. The other two won't really talk about any of that until I sign the management agreement. Both of them are RE brokers, too. 

What do you guys think? 

Thank you in advance!

Quote from @Alicia Marks:

@Kay Nemen where is the quad? A large number of my current units are in Cleburne.


 I'll message you! 

Hi all! I'm about to close on my first rental property (yay!) - a quadplex in the DFW area with all units rented below the market rent (about 20% below). How would you go about raising the rent - Would you wait for a few months or do it as soon as possible? All tenants are MTM with a good track history. The property should generate about $200/month in cash flow at the current rent. Obviously, it's going to put me in a safer spot if I raise the rent to market value, but this is also my first time dealing with a rental property out of state, so I don't want to come off too hard. There is a property manager in place, and I would like to keep using him. 

What do you guys think? 

Thanks in advance!! 

Quote from @Bruce Lynn:

@Kay Nemen  I like Cleburne.  Decent area for the most part.  That gap in the floor concerns me.  Does it have foundation problems or is it really old?   Did you see it yourself or did you have someone else go look at it for you?


 Hi Bruce, thank you for your response! I ended up passing on that one and went with a quadplex in Cleburne. I had someone else go look at it for me and thought it wasn't worth the risk since I don't have a reliable team in Cleburne yet (working on it now). 

The quadplex is a 1980 build with all 4 units rented under the market rent, generating about $200/month cash flow after all expenses. We'll see how it goes! 

Hey guys! Update and a few more questions here. Thank you all so much for your comments! 

I found a duplex in the Cleburne area for my price point. One unit is rented, and the other one just went through some quick renovations (painting, flooring, etc), but I found a few minor issues during the viewing. The floor looked sloppy (not concerned). The only concern I have is there was a big gap/hole in the floor at one corner of the house. I'm not sure if that will be serious, and I heard that house foundation could be a major issue, especially in Northern Texas. 

1. Does anyone know a reputable inspector in Cleburne area? 

2. I researched Cleburne and think the area has potential, being the up-and-coming commuting town 30 minutes from Fort Worth. What are your thoughts on Cleburne? 

Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Kay Nemen:

Hello everyone, my name is Kay. I'm new to investing. For the past few weeks, I have read many posts on BiggerPocket and learned so much about real estate. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and wisdom.

I'd like some advice on where to buy my next investment property using a DSCR loan. Right now, I'm house hacking - owning a three-family house in NYC and renting out the other two units. I want to buy an investment property out of state, and I'm considering Fort Worth, Phoenix, or Durham (NC). I plan on moving to the West Coast in the next 2-3 years, so considering that, I'm leaning towards Fort Worth or Phoenix only because my goal is to keep investing and buying properties, and it'd be easier if I lived nearby. What do you guys think about those places? I'm still very early in the buying process, so I'm open to all suggestions (I hear good things about Waco, Texas?)

Since this is my first time buying an investment property, I also wanted to get your feedback on my thought/research process and know if I'm heading in the right direction. This is what I have done so far in terms of the research on the area:

  1. - I looked up the rent on Rentometer and Zillow.
  2. - Did a quick city search on Areavibes. Looked at the job market and medium incomes. 
  3. - Looked at a few properties on Zillow, plugged the numbers into a DSCR calculator, and calculated the Cap rate.
  4. - Looked at the property tax. I learned that Texas has the highest property tax and Arizona has the lowest. Does this play a huge role in - buying investment properties?
  5. - My next step would be talking to lenders and realtors in all three cities to understand the current market better.

I'm also thinking it might be better to buy near hospitals/universities/tech companies/factories.

Am I missing anything, or is this typically the research one should do before buying an investment property?

Any help is appreciated!

I invest in both AZ and TX among others. AZ by far is more predictable with costs. Are you considering short term rentals or long term rentals? What's you price point, that plays a role. 

Thank you!  

Oops forgot to mention that in the post. 

I'm aiming for duplexes under $350,000. 
Yes, I have experience managing short-term rentals so I'm open to both short-term and long-term rentals. I'm also thinking about mid-term rental - I read that there are a bunch of hospitals that hire lots of travel nurses in Phoenix area, so I'm hoping to rent to travel doctors/nurses too. Please correct me if this is wrong.