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All Forum Posts by: Katrina Sokolosky

Katrina Sokolosky has started 2 posts and replied 16 times.

Post: House Hack finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Paul Bunton:

@Katrina Sokolosky sell the sf. Use the proceeds to buy a 3 family. Stay there for a yr. Save like crazy and move into a sf of ur own keeping the 3 family. 3 family should cover the mortgages for both. 3 family is the best way.

Interesting thought, thanks!

Post: House Hack finance Question

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Quote from @Sylvia H.:
Quote from @Katrina Sokolosky:

Hi! I am in the process of trying to purchase my 1st multi family house hack.

My plan is to take a HELOC on my current single family home & rent it out. And move I to the multi-family.

I reached our to a mortgage lender & he is saying the only way I can purchase a multi-family is to purchase a single home with a separate accessory unit on the property (like a separate cottage or such) versus a duplex/triplex.

I need to take advantage of the 3.5% down in order to make this work.

Why would it have to be a separate accessory on the property vs a duplex/triplex?

I'm Confused?

Thanks in Advanced,

Katrina 

Your lender is correct. No one will believe that you are moving out of a single family to a multi family. Underwriters are smart, they know you are trying to buy an investment property with 3.5 percent down. 
I have full intentions of moving & a house hack makes this possible for me.  My intention is to start a new life in a different state/area that fits my outdoor lifestyle better.  Of course any real estate is investment, but I am looking for quality of life in an area that I would like to live. 

Thanks for your insight 

Post: House Hack finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Ben V.:

I agree with @Reid Chauvin on this one. Would definitely go look at other lenders. 2-3 more actually. You may find they don't support those same rules. 

But in general you can purchase a new 2-4 unit that will be your primary using FHA. It's not a bad idea to consider Conventional either. Always look at all your options.

Cheers!


 Thanks for your insight!!

Post: House Hack finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Sylvia H.:
Quote from @Katrina Sokolosky:

Hi! I am in the process of trying to purchase my 1st multi family house hack.

My plan is to take a HELOC on my current single family home & rent it out. And move I to the multi-family.

I reached our to a mortgage lender & he is saying the only way I can purchase a multi-family is to purchase a single home with a separate accessory unit on the property (like a separate cottage or such) versus a duplex/triplex.

I need to take advantage of the 3.5% down in order to make this work.

Why would it have to be a separate accessory on the property vs a duplex/triplex?

I'm Confused?

Thanks in Advanced,

Katrina 

Your lender is correct. No one will believe that you are moving out of a single family to a multi family. Underwriters are smart, they know you are trying to buy an investment property with 3.5 percent down. 

 My intention is to start a new life now that my kids are now grown.  A house hack makes this doable for my situation.   Of course any real estate is an investment, but living in a place that fits my lifestyle is more what I am looking for and a house hack makes this possible.   It's more about making my move affordable for me, because without a house hack, I cannot move.  

Post: House Hack finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Sylvia H.:
Quote from @Katrina Sokolosky:

Hi! I am in the process of trying to purchase my 1st multi family house hack.

My plan is to take a HELOC on my current single family home & rent it out. And move I to the multi-family.

I reached our to a mortgage lender & he is saying the only way I can purchase a multi-family is to purchase a single home with a separate accessory unit on the property (like a separate cottage or such) versus a duplex/triplex.

I need to take advantage of the 3.5% down in order to make this work.

Why would it have to be a separate accessory on the property vs a duplex/triplex?

I'm Confused?

Thanks in Advanced,

Katrina 

Your lender is correct. No one will believe that you are moving out of a single family to a multi family. Underwriters are smart, they know you are trying to buy an investment property with 3.5 percent down. 

 Thanks for the insight.  I can understand that point of view.   That is not my intention.   My intention is to create a new life in a new area for myself.  And house hacking makes this doable for my situation.  I appreciate that point of view and definitely helps me understand the reasoning from uw.   

Post: House Hack finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Brian Miller:

@Katrina Sokolosky, I am not a lender or an underwriter, but an agent who has worked with a lot of FHA house hackers. Some of those clients have purchased two multi family properties using FHA. They have all had to explain why they are moving from the originally purchased property to the underwriter. The issue that may come up, as I have seen in the past, is that you are moving from a SFH to a MFH. It is more typical for people to move in the reverse order, so red flags may arise in underwriting. They may also think you are buying strictly an investment vs an actual residence which is what your lender talked about. The area/zip code you move to typically has to be better than where you currently live. I'm not familiar with where you live or are trying to move to, so you'll have to use your best judgement.
As an example, you could explain that the cost of living is higher where you are moving to, and that you want the additional rental income to offset costs. You would have to prove that of course, and the underwriters do look into this since it is a Gov backed loan. Hope this helps! 


 Thanks for your insight!

Post: House Hack finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Kerry Noble Jr:

Just want to make sure im clear....you already used an FHA loan on your current home?


 No, I have a conventional loan on my house, I lived here for 13 years.

Post: House Hack finance Question

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Quote from @Reid Chauvin:

@Katrina Sokolosky - how long have you owned your current residence? If less than a year, I guess I can understand the hesitation here...If you are truly planning on moving into this multi-unit property in the Adirondacks then you are absolutely entitled to putting 3.5% down with an FHA owner-occupied loan (as long as you meet the ability-to-repay qualifications).

I would recommend speaking with another lender who services that area. Sounds like this bank has their own unique overlays that other lenders who offer FHA loans will not have.

I have owned my home for 13 years.   And yes I want to live in the mountains with all my heart, hence why I am doing this. Could not leave my area due to a custody agreement or would have been long gone.  My credit is excellent,  good/steady job, all of that is sound.
Thanks for your advice.  

Post: House Hack finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Reid Chauvin:

@Katrina Sokolosky - I don't know why this other lender is telling you that the property cannot be a duplex or triplex. You can absolutely buy a 2-4 unit property with an FHA loan, and the units can be attached. As long as there is not a non-occupying borrower on the loan, you can put 3.5% down.


 @reid chauvin thanks for your insight.  So my lender replied to me with this answer.  Some of it makes sense to me and some does not.   

ahead of his reply, my plan is to start a new life in the new area.   It's more of giving me the affordability to do so by renting my property here as well as the house hack. His reply:

"This is the issue at every bank in country. Not saying this is the case as I understand you wish to relocate but this is the logic. When you retain a primary residence as a rental and buy a multi family as a primary residence, it reads as if the applicant is trying to obtain an investment property cheap. Traditional 2-4 unit investment property is 25% down vs 3.5% down fha primary residence. Its even a harder sell being from a different state as the Adirondacks are considered a vacation destination.
If you sold the PA property, it would obviously be a non-issue. Or if you rented PA, moved here and rented a property here locally short term then we could establish residency. That’s why I tell everyone in this scenario to find a single family with an accessory unit because it’s considered a single family rather than and investment property.
I sent same to President of my bank and this was his reply:
“On the surface it sounds like an investment property. If there is more back story, I might change my mind.

I grew up in Saranac lake. My mom still lives there and I am moving back to take care of her…..etc.”"

Post: House Hack Finance Question

Katrina SokoloskyPosted
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Quote from @Kristen L Garner:

An FHA loan will allow you to put down only 3.5% whereas a conventional loan would require 5% down for owner occupied. If your current residence is on a conventional loan you shouldn't have any issues purchasing the duplex with an FHA, 3.5% down.


 Thanks, I just don't understand why he said it has to be an accessory building on the property versus a duplex or triplex.  I don't understand 😕